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Posted: Sat, Jun 12 2010, 7:54 am EDT Post subject: Re: Support Sean Cox @ Cranbury School LGR Tues. June 15th 7PM |
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Guest wrote: | Here's the truth. Because of budget cuts Mr. Cox was first told in early March that he would be working at 75% and still have a job. He was then told before spring break that he would still be 75% but that he was insensitive to kids and would have to take sensitivity training next year plus have to pay for it out of his own pocket. This was because of one incident that happened with a Board Member's kid in December. It was never addressed by Mr. Haney until March and the incident that did occur was taken care of by Mr. Cox the day after it happened. By contract, Mr. Haney only has 5 days after a student incident to make it an issue and December to March is more than 5 days. Finally, at the beginning of May, Mr. Cox was told that he was not an excellent teacher and that he did not live up to the standards of a Cranbury teacher. At this point he was told that he was not going to be rehired. Mr. Cox's end of the year evaluations are very good and there have been no issues with his job performance or sensitivity to kids until March 2010. I hope this explains some things. |
This sounds like one side of the story. Anyone know the other side? |
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Posted: Sat, Jun 12 2010, 11:19 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Support Sean Cox @ Cranbury School LGR Tues. June 15th 7PM |
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My son has had very positive experiences with Mr. Cox as a teacher and role model in Cranbury School. He also wants to speak up at the meeting for Sean Cox. I'm bringing him with me on tuesday night and if he feels comfortable, he'll talk about Mr. Cox as his teacher.
That will be 'the student's' side of the story. |
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Posted: Sun, Jun 13 2010, 8:04 am EDT Post subject: Re: Support Sean Cox @ Cranbury School LGR Tues. June 15th 7PM |
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It is interesting that the supporters refer to him as Sean, not Mr. Cox. Even the person who posted her children had positive experiences calls him Sean. This leads me to believe that it is NOT parents but his goupies speaking out on his behalf. The information shared here does not seem public and if it is the "truth" or not "the truth' as stated, how is one to know?
I am glad my children have moved on past Cranbury School.
Teachers are entitled to extra activities, and Mr Cox- the Rock Star, musician promotes his music at school, uses blogs, facebook and myspace which are all unsavory places we do not want our children hanging out on.
I am not privileged to inside information on this but it doesn't take a Harvard Grad to smell a rat.
He is on his way out for whatever reason, and to self promote and have others take on his plight here seems like a desperate move. Do you want someone like that teaching your children?
Bye Cox |
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Posted: Sun, Jun 13 2010, 9:17 am EDT Post subject: Re: Support Sean Cox @ Cranbury School LGR Tues. June 15th 7PM |
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not buying this story.... wrote: | It is interesting that the supporters refer to him as Sean, not Mr. Cox. Even the person who posted her children had positive experiences calls him Sean. This leads me to believe that it is NOT parents but his goupies speaking out on his behalf. The information shared here does not seem public and if it is the "truth" or not "the truth' as stated, how is one to know?
I am glad my children have moved on past Cranbury School.
Teachers are entitled to extra activities, and Mr Cox- the Rock Star, musician promotes his music at school, uses blogs, facebook and myspace which are all unsavory places we do not want our children hanging out on.
I am not privileged to inside information on this but it doesn't take a Harvard Grad to smell a rat.
He is on his way out for whatever reason, and to self promote and have others take on his plight here seems like a desperate move. Do you want someone like that teaching your children?
Bye Cox |
Wow, what a crazy post. I have stayed out of commenting on this topic so far because I don't feel like I have any information one way or the other. My kids like Mr. Cox and I have seen in perform at the talent show and he seems talented but I have no idea if there are legitimate issues with him as a teacher.
But I don't need any insider knowledge to identify a post from a small, petty mind. The fact that the poster admits they have no insider information but feels comfortable just the same to infer that Mr. Cox is responsible and potentially slander him speaks volumes. Then they sign their post with the malicious "Bye Cox" despite, again, claiming no knowledge that any of the charges against him are true. I also find it hilarious that they refer to blogs, Facebook and Myspace as universally “unsavory” – the person comes across like some religious reactionary who thinks the entire Internet is some evil force or something. Similarly, because the sweepingly conclude that due to all this they are glad their kids aren’t at Cranbury School anymore. That’s classic. But it also furthers the fundamental point that if they aren’t they really have no basis on which to know what their talking about. So Facebook (where your identity is obvious for all to see) is evil but throwing out accusations anonymously Internet about something and someone they know nothing about is apparently appropriate, mature Christian behavior? And, BTW, from skimming the posts before the one right above it even refers to him as “Mr. Cox” and “Sean Cox” and never just “Sean” so they aren’t even correct in their assertions.
It’s disaapointing such petty people share this community with us, but at least in my experience they are in the extreme minority. I have no idea what the circumstances are in the case of Mr. Cox and trust our school board collectively to act appropriately. I’m sure most agree. That said, I find it encouraging that the some members of the community are asserting our democratic prerogative to organize and speak at the meeting (where they will be identified and not hiding behind anonymity here). We’re a great community, a few petty people not withstanding. |
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Posted: Mon, Jun 14 2010, 12:46 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Support Sean Cox @ Cranbury School LGR Tues. June 15th 7PM |
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Quote: | the person comes across like some religious reactionary who thinks the entire Internet is some evil force or something.... So Facebook (where your identity is obvious for all to see) is evil but throwing out accusations anonymously Internet about something and someone they know nothing about is apparently appropriate, mature Christian behavior? |
Why do you assume this person is Christian? Sounds like you are making your own assumptions and anonymous accusations. |
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Posted: Mon, Jun 14 2010, 1:15 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Support Sean Cox @ Cranbury School LGR Tues. June 15th 7PM |
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Guest wrote: | Quote: | the person comes across like some religious reactionary who thinks the entire Internet is some evil force or something.... So Facebook (where your identity is obvious for all to see) is evil but throwing out accusations anonymously Internet about something and someone they know nothing about is apparently appropriate, mature Christian behavior? |
Why do you assume this person is Christian? Sounds like you are making your own assumptions and anonymous accusations. |
Read more carefully. It didn't say the person was Christian. The sentence says "like some" -- comparing the behavior as similar to an extremist. You could have just as easily substituted numerous extremist stereotypes. A Christian extremist is an extremist, and bares no resemblance to the average Christian, and more, ironically, to, for example, an Islamic extremist. |
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Posted: Mon, Jun 14 2010, 3:21 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Support Sean Cox @ Cranbury School LGR Tues. June 15th 7PM |
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I don't think you have to be an extremist to have concerns about one party going public over a private personnel matter. Isn't Mr. Cox represented by his union?
Apparently, Mr. Cox was hired to be a gym teacher and wrestling coach. Now, we are cutting back on gym teachers and we don't need a wrestling coach. If Mr. Cox has proven to be an outstanding teacher for other reasons, then I assume he would be offered tenure. if not, then as sad and difficult as it may be, it doesn't seem to make sense to offer a lifetime contract for a position that is no longer required. |
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Posted: Mon, Jun 14 2010, 6:28 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Support Sean Cox @ Cranbury School LGR Tues. June 15th 7PM |
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not guest wrote: | I don't think you have to be an extremist to have concerns about one party going public over a private personnel matter. Isn't Mr. Cox represented by his union?
Apparently, Mr. Cox was hired to be a gym teacher and wrestling coach. Now, we are cutting back on gym teachers and we don't need a wrestling coach. If Mr. Cox has proven to be an outstanding teacher for other reasons, then I assume he would be offered tenure. if not, then as sad and difficult as it may be, it doesn't seem to make sense to offer a lifetime contract for a position that is no longer required. |
Again, read the previous post. The extremism was associated with the previous posters remarks that blogs, Facebook and MySpace were blanketly referred to as "unsavory" and that they are glad they don't have kids at Cranbury these days because of those influences. As for whether Mr. Cox is organizing this public response, I have no idea but I certainly haven't read any evidence of it here, only rumors and accusations. |
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Way 2 go Kids of Cranbury Guest
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Posted: Tue, Jun 15 2010, 9:19 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Support Sean Cox @ Cranbury School LGR Tues. June 15th 7PM |
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3 Cheers to all the students who spoke up tonight!!! Hopefully the Board of Ed will take into consideration of what was said this evening.
The students of Cranbury did very well tonight. Hats off to them!
Mr. Cox we know you are proud of all the students of Cranbury and hats off to you and all the teachers at Cranbury. We think highly of you Mr. Cox. |
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Posted: Wed, Jun 16 2010, 10:20 am EDT Post subject: Re: Support Sean Cox @ Cranbury School LGR Tues. June 15th 7PM |
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As a parent, do you / will you allow your middle schoolers to have a facebook or myspace page? and then be friends with their teachers? Sounds odd to be a teacher with school children for friends.
Please do not call me an extremist or terrorist for asking a very simple question.
I am just curious.
Thank you all. |
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Posted: Wed, Jun 16 2010, 10:26 am EDT Post subject: Re: Support Sean Cox @ Cranbury School LGR Tues. June 15th 7PM |
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guest12345 wrote: | As a parent, do you / will you allow your middle schoolers to have a facebook or myspace page? and then be friends with their teachers? Sounds odd to be a teacher with school children for friends.
Please do not call me an extremist or terrorist for asking a very simple question.
I am just curious.
Thank you all. |
Are you alleging something happened? Its easy to come on this board and anonymously make vague accusations. So please if you are aware of a specific issue or problem then state it.
As for teacher being friends. To this day I am still friends with teachers from when I grew up here in town. |
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Posted: Wed, Jun 16 2010, 11:12 am EDT Post subject: Re: Support Sean Cox @ Cranbury School LGR Tues. June 15th 7PM |
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what was the result of the BOE vote? |
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Posted: Wed, Jun 16 2010, 11:48 am EDT Post subject: Re: Support Sean Cox @ Cranbury School LGR Tues. June 15th 7PM |
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guest12345 wrote: | As a parent, do you / will you allow your middle schoolers to have a facebook or myspace page? and then be friends with their teachers? Sounds odd to be a teacher with school children for friends.
Please do not call me an extremist or terrorist for asking a very simple question.
I am just curious.
Thank you all. |
The poster compared to an extremist (whether that was you or someone else) was not "asking a simple question" -- they were universally condemning those sites and saying they were glad they didn't have kids at the school. Apples to Oranges to a simple question.
As for your question, kids aren't even legally supposed to have accounts on those sites until they are 13 and personally I don’t support encouraging them to lie about their age. After that, I wouldn't have a problem with them friending a teacher, assuming the teacher accepted students as friends, which most don't. Personally I also require my kids to give me their passwords and to friend me as well so I can audit their activity. You must not be a Facebook user if you think of "friends" as literal. I have hundreds of friends on Facebook some of which are merely professional acquaintances. It is a general tool for networking and communication. In many lines of work now it is a given you have to have a Facebook account and network with it. And I have teenage nieces and nephews who are “friends” on Facebook too. I also have “friends” who were my teachers back in elementary, middle and high school. This is incredibly common. Again, it is a general communication and networking tool, unless abused, and anything can be abused if not monitored.
BTW, do you have specific evidence that Mr. Cox is friending middle school kids under 13? That wasn’t previously discussed. Sounds like yet another rumor. |
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Posted: Wed, Jun 16 2010, 12:28 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Support Sean Cox @ Cranbury School LGR Tues. June 15th 7PM |
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Guest wrote: | guest12345 wrote: | As a parent, do you / will you allow your middle schoolers to have a facebook or myspace page? and then be friends with their teachers? Sounds odd to be a teacher with school children for friends.
Please do not call me an extremist or terrorist for asking a very simple question.
I am just curious.
Thank you all. |
The poster compared to an extremist (whether that was you or someone else) was not "asking a simple question" -- they were universally condemning those sites and saying they were glad they didn't have kids at the school. Apples to Oranges to a simple question.
As for your question, kids aren't even legally supposed to have accounts on those sites until they are 13 and personally I don’t support encouraging them to lie about their age. After that, I wouldn't have a problem with them friending a teacher, assuming the teacher accepted students as friends, which most don't. Personally I also require my kids to give me their passwords and to friend me as well so I can audit their activity. You must not be a Facebook user if you think of "friends" as literal. I have hundreds of friends on Facebook some of which are merely professional acquaintances. It is a general tool for networking and communication. In many lines of work now it is a given you have to have a Facebook account and network with it. And I have teenage nieces and nephews who are “friends” on Facebook too. I also have “friends” who were my teachers back in elementary, middle and high school. This is incredibly common. Again, it is a general communication and networking tool, unless abused, and anything can be abused if not monitored.
BTW, do you have specific evidence that Mr. Cox is friending middle school kids under 13? That wasn’t previously discussed. Sounds like yet another rumor. |
I am very familiar with the uses for Facebook and myspace. Most companies now block Facebook and myspace from their corporate networks. So please do your homework prior to eating the apple.
yes children do lie about their age to gain access to these sites.
I did not accuse anyone of anything but posed a question to the viewers about their own children and if they had issues with their children being a teachers friend on those sites.
I never mentioned any teacher in particular and since you draw the line from a generic question to Mr. Cox, guess I will have to look him up and see what students are on his friends list.
That's easy enough!!! thanks for pointing this out.
You need not be so determined to defend Mr. Cox, my intent was a generic question but since this is sensitive to you, you are either a teacher or work in the school based on your comments.
You should not be on this at work! More tax dollars being wasted. |
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Posted: Wed, Jun 16 2010, 1:42 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Support Sean Cox @ Cranbury School LGR Tues. June 15th 7PM |
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guest1234567 wrote: | Guest wrote: | guest12345 wrote: | As a parent, do you / will you allow your middle schoolers to have a facebook or myspace page? and then be friends with their teachers? Sounds odd to be a teacher with school children for friends.
Please do not call me an extremist or terrorist for asking a very simple question.
I am just curious.
Thank you all. |
The poster compared to an extremist (whether that was you or someone else) was not "asking a simple question" -- they were universally condemning those sites and saying they were glad they didn't have kids at the school. Apples to Oranges to a simple question.
As for your question, kids aren't even legally supposed to have accounts on those sites until they are 13 and personally I don’t support encouraging them to lie about their age. After that, I wouldn't have a problem with them friending a teacher, assuming the teacher accepted students as friends, which most don't. Personally I also require my kids to give me their passwords and to friend me as well so I can audit their activity. You must not be a Facebook user if you think of "friends" as literal. I have hundreds of friends on Facebook some of which are merely professional acquaintances. It is a general tool for networking and communication. In many lines of work now it is a given you have to have a Facebook account and network with it. And I have teenage nieces and nephews who are “friends” on Facebook too. I also have “friends” who were my teachers back in elementary, middle and high school. This is incredibly common. Again, it is a general communication and networking tool, unless abused, and anything can be abused if not monitored.
BTW, do you have specific evidence that Mr. Cox is friending middle school kids under 13? That wasn’t previously discussed. Sounds like yet another rumor. |
I am very familiar with the uses for Facebook and myspace. Most companies now block Facebook and myspace from their corporate networks. So please do your homework prior to eating the apple.
yes children do lie about their age to gain access to these sites.
I did not accuse anyone of anything but posed a question to the viewers about their own children and if they had issues with their children being a teachers friend on those sites.
I never mentioned any teacher in particular and since you draw the line from a generic question to Mr. Cox, guess I will have to look him up and see what students are on his friends list.
That's easy enough!!! thanks for pointing this out.
You need not be so determined to defend Mr. Cox, my intent was a generic question but since this is sensitive to you, you are either a teacher or work in the school based on your comments.
You should not be on this at work! More tax dollars being wasted. |
You really don't know what you're talking about, clearly. "Most" companies do not block these sites. Would you like to cite your source for this fact or provide a link?
As for tax dollars, why are they wasted? I don't work for a public company. I'm not even at work. And aren't you posting too?
Who said anything about defending Mr. Cox? I have no dog in this fight because I know nothing about the circumstances pertaining to Mr. Cox specifically. I trust the school board to collect the facts and do the right thing. I only object to vast generalizations and misinformation on any topic.
And give it a rest with your weak claim that you weren't inferring about Mr. Cox with your teacher friending students comment. This entire topic is about Mr. Cox. Read the title. If you wanted to change the subject you would have said so.
I have no idea if you are a Troll or someone with an axe to grind but clearly you have an agenda. That's cool. Just don't expect others to follow... |
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Posted: Wed, Jun 16 2010, 2:26 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Support Sean Cox @ Cranbury School LGR Tues. June 15th 7PM |
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Guest wrote: | guest1234567 wrote: | Guest wrote: | guest12345 wrote: | As a parent, do you / will you allow your middle schoolers to have a facebook or myspace page? and then be friends with their teachers? Sounds odd to be a teacher with school children for friends.
Please do not call me an extremist or terrorist for asking a very simple question.
I am just curious.
Thank you all. |
The poster compared to an extremist (whether that was you or someone else) was not "asking a simple question" -- they were universally condemning those sites and saying they were glad they didn't have kids at the school. Apples to Oranges to a simple question.
As for your question, kids aren't even legally supposed to have accounts on those sites until they are 13 and personally I don’t support encouraging them to lie about their age. After that, I wouldn't have a problem with them friending a teacher, assuming the teacher accepted students as friends, which most don't. Personally I also require my kids to give me their passwords and to friend me as well so I can audit their activity. You must not be a Facebook user if you think of "friends" as literal. I have hundreds of friends on Facebook some of which are merely professional acquaintances. It is a general tool for networking and communication. In many lines of work now it is a given you have to have a Facebook account and network with it. And I have teenage nieces and nephews who are “friends” on Facebook too. I also have “friends” who were my teachers back in elementary, middle and high school. This is incredibly common. Again, it is a general communication and networking tool, unless abused, and anything can be abused if not monitored.
BTW, do you have specific evidence that Mr. Cox is friending middle school kids under 13? That wasn’t previously discussed. Sounds like yet another rumor. |
I am very familiar with the uses for Facebook and myspace. Most companies now block Facebook and myspace from their corporate networks. So please do your homework prior to eating the apple.
yes children do lie about their age to gain access to these sites.
I did not accuse anyone of anything but posed a question to the viewers about their own children and if they had issues with their children being a teachers friend on those sites.
I never mentioned any teacher in particular and since you draw the line from a generic question to Mr. Cox, guess I will have to look him up and see what students are on his friends list.
That's easy enough!!! thanks for pointing this out.
You need not be so determined to defend Mr. Cox, my intent was a generic question but since this is sensitive to you, you are either a teacher or work in the school based on your comments.
You should not be on this at work! More tax dollars being wasted. |
You really don't know what you're talking about, clearly. "Most" companies do not block these sites. Would you like to cite your source for this fact or provide a link?
As for tax dollars, why are they wasted? I don't work for a public company. I'm not even at work. And aren't you posting too?
Who said anything about defending Mr. Cox? I have no dog in this fight because I know nothing about the circumstances pertaining to Mr. Cox specifically. I trust the school board to collect the facts and do the right thing. I only object to vast generalizations and misinformation on any topic.
And give it a rest with your weak claim that you weren't inferring about Mr. Cox with your teacher friending students comment. This entire topic is about Mr. Cox. Read the title. If you wanted to change the subject you would have said so.
I have no idea if you are a Troll or someone with an axe to grind but clearly you have an agenda. That's cool. Just don't expect others to follow... |
I never referenced Mr. Cox in my post. The defender did.
Most large and some small companies DO block social websites from their network so as to not lose productivity from their employees, or Lose sensitive data that can be transmitted off their networks.
Call any fortune 500/1000 company and ask for their communications policy, since you are home and have time.
Most medical, financial, industrial, and government agencies filter their network content.
Clearly it is YOU who needs an education on this. No agenda here, just laughing at the nonsense.
The real reason for the original post is there seems to be many parents reading here and a good source of input on the Social Network topic.
Now who has an agenda?
Thank you. |
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