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PostPosted: Mon, Oct 18 2010, 9:23 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: VIDEO: Asbury Park Press editorial board Sipprelle vs Holt Reply with quote

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The top earners pay more money because they make more money.
It's not rocket science, Zippy!
Progressive tax is the only thing that makes sense.
Whadda ya gonna do, tax the poor?

What's so wrong with taxing the "poor" their fair share? Of course, they'll get most of their taxes back in services. However, if anyone should have the government managing the lion's share of their money, shouldn't it be the people who rely on the government to pick up the tab? How many times have you seen a welfare recipient with a new leather jacket, $100 pair of shoes, a satellite dish or a new blackberry?

Traditionally, the poor have no money!
It's tough to get money from people who don't really have any.
I don't know what poor people you're talking about.
Maybe, the poor are better off in your neighborhood?


Who are the poor? Half of Americans don't pay taxes. Are they all poor? And if so, how is it that 99% of househodls can afford a TV? How can 80% of Americans afford premium TV services? How can a majority of Americans afford cell phones? If they don't have enough money to get by, how can they afford much beyond food, basic clothes, public transportation to their work and a small rented apartment? There are real poor in this country but there are many other people who don't fit the definition of poor that would make sense anywhere else in the world or to any rational person who still don't pay taxes.
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PostPosted: Mon, Oct 18 2010, 9:58 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: VIDEO: Asbury Park Press editorial board Sipprelle vs Holt Reply with quote

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Whadda ya gonna do, tax the poor?

What's so wrong with taxing the "poor" their fair share? Of course, they'll get most of their taxes back in services. However, if anyone should have the government managing the lion's share of their money, shouldn't it be the people who rely on the government to pick up the tab? How many times have you seen a welfare recipient with a new leather jacket, $100 pair of shoes, a satellite dish or a new blackberry?

Traditionally, the poor have no money!
It's tough to get money from people who don't really have any. Maybe, the poor are better off in your neighborhood?

Our government has a broad definition of "poor people". Everyone should pay taxes, otherwise there is no incentive to spend wisely. Look at the abbott districts, they spend the state's money like water. Do you think New Brunswick High would have cost $150 million if a reasonable percentage of the cost was borne by local tax payers?

PS- just for kicks and giggles, drive through a city full of poor people and look at all the satellite dishes.
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 19 2010, 8:00 am EDT    Post subject: Re: VIDEO: Asbury Park Press editorial board Sipprelle vs Holt Reply with quote

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Whadda ya gonna do, tax the poor?

What's so wrong with taxing the "poor" their fair share? Of course, they'll get most of their taxes back in services. However, if anyone should have the government managing the lion's share of their money, shouldn't it be the people who rely on the government to pick up the tab? How many times have you seen a welfare recipient with a new leather jacket, $100 pair of shoes, a satellite dish or a new blackberry?

Traditionally, the poor have no money!
It's tough to get money from people who don't really have any. Maybe, the poor are better off in your neighborhood?

Our government has a broad definition of "poor people". Everyone should pay taxes, otherwise there is no incentive to spend wisely. Look at the abbott districts, they spend the state's money like water. Do you think New Brunswick High would have cost $150 million if a reasonable percentage of the cost was borne by local tax payers?

PS- just for kicks and giggles, drive through a city full of poor people and look at all the satellite dishes.

WOW!
You must've taken the short bus to go to school!!!!!!!!!!
You are officially a numbnut!
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 19 2010, 10:18 am EDT    Post subject: Re: VIDEO: Asbury Park Press editorial board Sipprelle vs Holt Reply with quote

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Whadda ya gonna do, tax the poor?

What's so wrong with taxing the "poor" their fair share? Of course, they'll get most of their taxes back in services. However, if anyone should have the government managing the lion's share of their money, shouldn't it be the people who rely on the government to pick up the tab? How many times have you seen a welfare recipient with a new leather jacket, $100 pair of shoes, a satellite dish or a new blackberry?

Traditionally, the poor have no money!
It's tough to get money from people who don't really have any. Maybe, the poor are better off in your neighborhood?

Our government has a broad definition of "poor people". Everyone should pay taxes, otherwise there is no incentive to spend wisely. Look at the abbott districts, they spend the state's money like water. Do you think New Brunswick High would have cost $150 million if a reasonable percentage of the cost was borne by local tax payers?

PS- just for kicks and giggles, drive through a city full of poor people and look at all the satellite dishes.

WOW!
You must've taken the short bus to go to school!!!!!!!!!!
You are officially a numbnut!


And you're even less credible that Rush, Glen or Sarah. All you can do to support your case is throw cliche insults? I notice you have nothing to say when asked direct questions from previous posters citing facts about taxes. All you have is your demagoguery which puts you on par with the worst of the “tea baggers” you disparage.
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 19 2010, 3:59 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: VIDEO: Asbury Park Press editorial board Sipprelle vs Holt Reply with quote

They are NOT cliche insults.................they are original!
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 19 2010, 5:15 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: VIDEO: Asbury Park Press editorial board Sipprelle vs Holt Reply with quote

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Whadda ya gonna do, tax the poor?

What's so wrong with taxing the "poor" their fair share? Of course, they'll get most of their taxes back in services. However, if anyone should have the government managing the lion's share of their money, shouldn't it be the people who rely on the government to pick up the tab? How many times have you seen a welfare recipient with a new leather jacket, $100 pair of shoes, a satellite dish or a new blackberry?

Traditionally, the poor have no money!
It's tough to get money from people who don't really have any. Maybe, the poor are better off in your neighborhood?

Our government has a broad definition of "poor people". Everyone should pay taxes, otherwise there is no incentive to spend wisely. Look at the abbott districts, they spend the state's money like water. Do you think New Brunswick High would have cost $150 million if a reasonable percentage of the cost was borne by local tax payers?

PS- just for kicks and giggles, drive through a city full of poor people and look at all the satellite dishes.

WOW!
You must've taken the short bus to go to school!!!!!!!!!!
You are officially a numbnut!


And you're even less credible that Rush, Glen or Sarah. All you can do to support your case is throw cliche insults? I notice you have nothing to say when asked direct questions from previous posters citing facts about taxes. All you have is your demagoguery which puts you on par with the worst of the “tea baggers” you disparage.

You're taking yourself WAY too seriously, Zippy!
This is just some stupid municipal chat board. Nobody cares what goes on in here.
Rant away, Zip!
We know that you like to show off your grasp of mundane, arcane useless knowledge, but, nobody really gives a rat's fat arse about it.
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 19 2010, 6:32 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: VIDEO: Asbury Park Press editorial board Sipprelle vs Holt Reply with quote

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Whadda ya gonna do, tax the poor?

What's so wrong with taxing the "poor" their fair share? Of course, they'll get most of their taxes back in services. However, if anyone should have the government managing the lion's share of their money, shouldn't it be the people who rely on the government to pick up the tab?

Traditionally, the poor have no money!

Our government has a broad definition of "poor people". Everyone should pay taxes, otherwise there is no incentive to spend wisely. .

WOW!
You must've taken the short bus to go to school!!!!!!!!!!
You are officially a numbnut!


And you're even less credible that Rush, Glen or Sarah. All you can do to support your case is throw cliche insults? I notice you have nothing to say when asked direct questions from previous posters citing facts about taxes. All you have is your demagoguery which puts you on par with the worst of the “tea baggers” you disparage.

You're taking yourself WAY too seriously, Zippy!
This is just some stupid municipal chat board. Nobody cares what goes on in here.
Rant away, Zip!
We know that you like to show off your grasp of mundane, arcane useless knowledge, but, nobody really gives a rat's fat arse about it.

Now now Scooter. That isn't very nice. For now, you may be a "poor" witless troll, but someday you're going to have a real job and real responsibilities and you might not be so glib about the real taxes you're going to have to pay when you're making your own real money. Now finish up your homework and get to bed! Your education is costing me a fortune.
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 19 2010, 9:47 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: VIDEO: Asbury Park Press editorial board Sipprelle vs Holt Reply with quote

I would love to see all of you rich insensitive people knocked senseless, have amnesia, and be left homeless on Perry Street in the middle of Trenton in the winter without a coat. Then let's see how you really feel about not having a government safety net or anyone else to help you out.
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 19 2010, 10:18 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: VIDEO: Asbury Park Press editorial board Sipprelle vs Holt Reply with quote

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I would love to see all of you rich insensitive people knocked senseless, have amnesia, and be left homeless on Perry Street in the middle of Trenton in the winter without a coat. Then let's see how you really feel about not having a government safety net or anyone else to help you out.


Again, ignoring all the facts and specific questions you were asked. 50% of people don't pay taxes but 50% of people are not homeless on Perry Street. There is plenty of safety net without taxing the upper-middle class more while expecting half the people to contribute nothing. No one said anything about no "safety net." The argument is over how big it is an how few people have to hold it for everyone else. Yes, we pay for that safety net but we are insensitive jerks because apparently we don't agree a few people should have to pay even more while no one else does.
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 19 2010, 10:19 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: VIDEO: Asbury Park Press editorial board Sipprelle vs Holt Reply with quote

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I would love to see all of you rich insensitive people knocked senseless, have amnesia, and be left homeless on Perry Street in the middle of Trenton in the winter without a coat. Then let's see how you really feel about not having a government safety net or anyone else to help you out.


Get off your soapbox. There's a lot of room between where we are today and eliminating ALL government safety nets and social support systems. I'll bet most of the people you're spouting off about give way more time and money to charity than you.
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 19 2010, 10:44 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: VIDEO: Asbury Park Press editorial board Sipprelle vs Holt Reply with quote

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I would love to see all of you rich insensitive people knocked senseless, have amnesia, and be left homeless on Perry Street in the middle of Trenton in the winter without a coat. Then let's see how you really feel about not having a government safety net or anyone else to help you out.


Funny, I was just wondering how far your big mouth and lilly white ideology would get you under the same set of circumstances. After you pee your pants in a panic and flag down a cop who busts your cold, wet butt for the weed in your pocket and tosses you in a holding cell with a bunch of your new friends from the hood, how long will it take you to call an "insensitive jerk" to bail you out?

Grow up Scooter! You're out of your league.
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PostPosted: Tue, Oct 19 2010, 11:11 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: VIDEO: Asbury Park Press editorial board Sipprelle vs Holt Reply with quote

You're wasting your time with Mr. Upper Class Snot who is comfortably numb in his cushy, oak-panelled world.
I can picture him now in his crushed velvet smoking jacket and his snifter of cognac laughing gleefully while he pounds away on his gold-plated keyboard.
"I think I'll buy some IBM tomorrow", he says with a haughty smirk.
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PostPosted: Wed, Oct 20 2010, 9:28 am EDT    Post subject: Re: VIDEO: Asbury Park Press editorial board Sipprelle vs Holt Reply with quote

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You're wasting your time with Mr. Upper Class Snot who is comfortably numb in his cushy, oak-panelled world.
I can picture him now in his crushed velvet smoking jacket and his snifter of cognac laughing gleefully while he pounds away on his gold-plated keyboard.
"I think I'll buy some IBM tomorrow", he says with a haughty smirk.


You nailed it! How did you know? Your 2 dimensional view of the world will serve you well. There are rich people (AKA bad people) and there are poor people (AKA the good people). Fortunately for you, your sarcastic attitude, artistic dreams and refusal to give in to "the man", will land you a low-wage, dead-end job where you can spend the rest of your life glomming off your parents and your Uncle Sam without fear of becoming one of those evil rich people.
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PostPosted: Wed, Oct 20 2010, 9:31 am EDT    Post subject: Re: VIDEO: Asbury Park Press editorial board Sipprelle vs Holt Reply with quote

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You're wasting your time with Mr. Upper Class Snot who is comfortably numb in his cushy, oak-panelled world.
I can picture him now in his crushed velvet smoking jacket and his snifter of cognac laughing gleefully while he pounds away on his gold-plated keyboard.
"I think I'll buy some IBM tomorrow", he says with a haughty smirk.


You nailed it! How did you know? Your 2 dimensional view of the world will serve you well. There are rich people (AKA bad people) and there are poor people (AKA the good people). Fortunately for you, your sarcastic attitude, artistic dreams and refusal to give in to "the man", will land you a low-wage, dead-end job where you can spend the rest of your life glomming off your parents and your Uncle Sam without fear of becoming one of those evil rich people.

OMG!!!!!!!
How did you know all of that?
Did you put a camera in my house?
Seriously.................did you???
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PostPosted: Wed, Oct 20 2010, 6:10 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: VIDEO: Asbury Park Press editorial board Sipprelle vs Holt Reply with quote

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You're wasting your time with Mr. Upper Class Snot who is comfortably numb in his cushy, oak-panelled world.
I can picture him now in his crushed velvet smoking jacket and his snifter of cognac laughing gleefully while he pounds away on his gold-plated keyboard.
"I think I'll buy some IBM tomorrow", he says with a haughty smirk.


You nailed it! How did you know? Your 2 dimensional view of the world will serve you well. There are rich people (AKA bad people) and there are poor people (AKA the good people). Fortunately for you, your sarcastic attitude, artistic dreams and refusal to give in to "the man", will land you a low-wage, dead-end job where you can spend the rest of your life glomming off your parents and your Uncle Sam without fear of becoming one of those evil rich people.

We know that you root for Ebeneezer Scrooge, Gordon Gekko, and Mr Potter from Its a Wonderful Life!
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PostPosted: Wed, Oct 20 2010, 6:29 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: VIDEO: Asbury Park Press editorial board Sipprelle vs Holt Reply with quote

Well Scooter, your responses have become weak and boring. See you at the club... And remember, I like my water with lemon, and just a little ice.
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