35 Old Trenton Road - are you serious??

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What people don't understand is that the issue is that its UNFAIR....the road is basically a country road, and NOBODY is going to drive the speed limit. For those who drive even 5-10 over the new 'limit' (way slow before), its going to be hell as they'll be tailgated and abused. Also, it will become an unfair speed trap. The issue isn't just the commute. Most people drive for the conditions, and will continue to go 50.

EDIT: I just called and was told I had no chance; it was 'reclassified' to a residential road (as I already knew). But if enough people complain to this DOT and the locals there, maybe something will change (I totally doubt it). Tell them you've been tailgated obeying the limit or even going 40-45

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Here's a petition:

We (the undersigned) strongly disapprove of the new speed limit on Old Trenton Road, as we feel it is excessively low for conditions. While said road does have some development off to the side, most of the homes in the area are not directly on the road. Old Trenton Road also has large shoulders. Because these design elements are typical of a much higher speed limit, we are observing very little compliance with said limit. In fact, when driving the speed limit, we have noticed that we are being tailgated which is creating a safety hazard far in excess of the original limit. As a result, we have been redirecting our routes to the lesser traveled Cranbury Neck residential zone in order to avoid being caught up in an unfair situation. We are also considering taking our business elsewhere outside your town.

Part of speed limit safety is to set the limit at the 85th percentile of free flowing traffic in order to reduce tailgating and accident. We find that this new limit likely causes more accidents than it saves. As drivers, we would like to see the speed limit set in a reasonable manner that reflects the conditions is fair for all drivers as well as those who live in the area; unfair and unreasonably low limits garner unneeded disrespect for the police and traffic laws.

We recommend the speed limit be restored to 50 mph, with perhaps a 40 mph zone extension to the bend in the road approximately 1/3 or 1/2 mile from South main Street. With this compromise, the residents that live around that bend will feel safer, and drivers will feel that the limit set in the area is reasonable and prudent.

Sincerely,

(The Undersigned)

If people hate this, do something. Start an online petition and send this letter to the mayor. Let him know that there's going to be near zero compliance with the limit and that it's just going to create unsafe passing situation and tailgating accidents.

[not 50mph]

There are people who like the change, and the speed should not be restored to 50 mph.

If you don't like the 35mph, tell us where you live.

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Does anyone really think that, short of replacing the painted signs, the county will give in to thinking that maybe the speed should be more than 35? In the meantime, what measures can the police take that could help in preventing future defacing of the MPH signs? It certainly would be a sad state of affairs if they had to resign to using surveillance cameras.

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This "Edgemere Avenue" is about 1/2 to 2/3 as wide as this section of old trenton. 35 is more appropriate here, most drive 35-40.

Speed limits need to be consistent for the conditions, not thrown out arbitrarily. You can post a highway at 25 and nobody is going to obey it really...and the few that do will create a dangerous situation. Thats why this speed limit system is such BS....road conditions determine 'safety', not arbitrary numbers. It's just as safe to drive 50-55 on old trenton as it was 6 months ago.

85th percentile speed limits save lives. Stupidly low limits kill people and bring money into the state. No worse than armed robbery, really, because you're fined for driving a reasonable speed under the threat of arrest and whatnot. In the call, I also learned that the state gave up the right to set limits in late 2008. The state should be setting the limits though, and they should be at the 85th percentile of free flowing traffic. Not according to some arbitrary technicality set 60 years ago...

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Why would it be a speed trap? Cranbury police patrol and write the tickets while the court is in plainsboro. Plainsboro then keeps the ticket fees. I then ask why cranbury would then have a speed trap on old Trenton road? The answer is this is not a speed trap and simplly how the rules currently work at the county level. If you oppose them so much then attend a freeholders meeting to work toward solving this issue which is so important to you.

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So, if you guys are ticked off at Cranbury posting stupidly low limits, petition and complain to the mayor! let him know that it'll just cause more accidents and aggressive driving. Better yet, complain to the state govt if possible and let them know that the whole system needs to be overhauled. People let this garbage happen because they only get tickets once in awhile, thus it's not a 'salient' enough issue. Then when someone gets ticketed, everyone goes "but you shouldn't have been speeding!" and wags their finger.

The problem is that again, speed limits are often set arbitrarily low based on outdated technicalities rather than sensible engineering standards. People who do this often don't understand the situation at hand and would be speeding in the same area. But if nobody does anything, this highway robbery will continue. Anything below the 85th percentile is unfair and unreasonable unless there are bikers or people directly present at the moment or obstructions; in which cases the vast majority of people DO slow down by their own will. Im annoyed because Cranbury ignored the traffic engineer's SCIENTIFIC advice and just implemented something contrary to all safety concerns anyway.

So I don't care if a few people like it, you have no right to impose unfair rules on the 90% of motorists who drive this road and are out of town.

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A speed trap is an area that is disproportionately ticketed because of a limit excessively low for the conditions. Even if its supposedly for misguided 'safety' reasons, this is just as bad.

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Cranbury green to main street it's 40 mph

Main street to the swim club / millstone river bridge it's 35 mph

Milstone river bridge to 571 it's 40 mph

Is 35 mph that big of a life changing event for you? Is nothing else in your life or in this world that is more important to you than this issue?

Why not take all of your negative 35 mph is too slow for a 2 mile stretch of road negativity and put it to some good use in this world.

Move on or move out.

As a side note I drive 34 mph now on OTR now just to piss people like you off

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