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 Posted: Sun, Aug 22 2010, 1:37 pm EDT Post subject: Topic locked? |
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| I don't mean to bring up a dead issue, but I do not understand why the Old Trenton 35 topic was locked and I was blocked from the boards. This seems hypocritical since I should have every right to post my opinions in the same way others post theirs. Ironically, others were flaming me and I am the one that gets booted. I have just as much right to say that 'low speed limits kill people' as do people have the right to say 'speed kills'...in fact I probably have MORE right because what I say is probably much more true. Regardless, I'd appreciate if I were allowed to post my opinion as I did so REASONABLY RESPECTFULLY. By the way, people who flamed me should read up on traffic engineering, you might learn something! |
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| Posted: Sun, Aug 22 2010, 1:48 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Topic locked? |
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| Look, if you want to make it 50 mph, this is not the right place. Ask a court to decide it for you if you really want it your way. |
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| Posted: Sun, Aug 22 2010, 3:11 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Topic locked? |
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| Absolutely, this is not the place to discuss things having to do with Cranbury. We only discuss Mosques in lower Manhattan. |
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| Posted: Sun, Aug 22 2010, 3:46 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Topic locked? |
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Well to the first person, obviously I can't just go to the court and ask for it because they're not going to do it. Look at route 133 with its unfair speed trap 50 mph limit. The point is, I have the right to post my opinions whether others like them or not. |
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| Posted: Sun, Aug 22 2010, 4:53 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Topic locked? |
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| This is a private board, not a town board so I would think the owner has the right to block or to lock any poster or thread. |
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| Posted: Sun, Aug 22 2010, 6:36 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Topic locked? |
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| People have the right to do a lot of nonsensical things, but it doesn't mean it should be done. I was not doing anything wrong at all. |
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| Posted: Sun, Aug 22 2010, 9:20 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Topic locked? |
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| And people are really hypocritical about things like speed limits; I highly doubt anyone who was flaming me actually does 35 on the road (they probably drive 43-45 at least, though this is still well below average). This is because the limit is grossly inappropriate for the conditions. There are only a few houses directly on the road, and 35 zones typically are about half as wide and have houses all over the place. People like to be all smug on their high horse and think that 'well its all just for safety' and 'oh yeah now they'll get all the jerk speeders!!!' but just wait until they get busted themselves. I bet that if you had a 30 mph speed limit in the middle of route 1, you'd still get many people acting like this, then driving 20 over the ridiculous 'limit'. |
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| Posted: Sun, Aug 22 2010, 11:36 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Topic locked? |
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| Guest wrote: | | People have the right to do a lot of nonsensical things, but it doesn't mean it should be done. I was not doing anything wrong at all. |
Several posts have been locked here over time, as is common on other boards too, when the dialogue degenerates to the point where the same points are being made over-and-over and the only new posts are people attacking each other.
That said in this particular case, assuming you are the same poster, the poster in question was particularly obnoxious, glorifying people vandalizing the legal signs, promising to illegally tailgate people driving the speed limit, stating false information about the speed limit on other nearby roads, admitting to not even living in Cranbury, and generally trying to insult anyone who didn’t agree with them. And, yeah, some people insulted right back, but the moderator obviously identified that the poster was basically instigating the rudeness, which seems to have been borne out by the fact that when they were banned everyone else moved on and didn’t continue the flame war.
As others have noted, the moderator/owner can do whatever they want. In terms of whether it is “right” that is subjective, but I would say that unless you had something specific and productive to add to the topic, which didn’t seem to be the case by that point, that locking posts that have been reduced to nothing but pissing matches, with the only person against the thing seemingly not even being a member of the community, was the “right” call. If you really feel you were unjustly banned, prove it by contributing something new and productive to the conversation instead of just re-hashing all the points anyone who’s interested can find by searching the old topic. |
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| Posted: Mon, Aug 23 2010, 4:18 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Topic locked? |
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| Well if that wasn't me, then what on earth was I banned for? Of course I had something productive to add to the topic. Nothing of what I had said had really been brought up or discussed before....you probably just don't like my opinion. Also, sometimes things need to be discussed further because people don't GET it! |
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| Posted: Mon, Aug 23 2010, 4:18 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Topic locked? |
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| You got the wrong guy just to be clear, I came in LATE in the topic. |
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| Posted: Wed, Aug 25 2010, 5:05 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Topic locked? |
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| Funny how when you cross S. Main the speed limit goes up 40. Also Petty Rd is 35, the same as Old Trenton Rd. That's just crazy. There is no reason Old Trenton Rd should not be 45 or 50 mph. There are houses closer to RT 130 (where the speed limit is 55) than on Old Trenton Rd. |
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| Posted: Wed, Aug 25 2010, 10:11 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Topic locked? |
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| Guest wrote: | | Funny how when you cross S. Main the speed limit goes up 40. Also Petty Rd is 35, the same as Old Trenton Rd. That's just crazy. There is no reason Old Trenton Rd should not be 45 or 50 mph. There are houses closer to RT 130 (where the speed limit is 55) than on Old Trenton Rd. |
It's 40 before and 40 after that section which is why the residents suggested 40. Write or call the County to thank them for the 35 which they did despite the requests for 40. By comparison they recently slowed Cranbury Neck to 40, then 30 in the previous 50 sections in West Windsor. But of course you know all this ecause it was all rehashed in the previous topic about this but you just can't let it go. What do you expect to be different this time? |
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| Posted: Thu, Aug 26 2010, 3:42 am EDT Post subject: Re: Topic locked? |
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| County actually had told me that the mayor wanted 25 on it, or something like that. Its not that I can't let it go, its that I shouldn't be banned for posting my opinions, and that people should actually try to be open minded. By the way, it does not MATTER what residents think it is, if they are not considering rational traffic engineering principles. Speed limits MUST be consistent to be valid. OTR is not a 40 mph road. An appropriate LIMIT (an actual 85th percentile speed limit rounded up to the nearest 5 mph as recommended by traffic engineering standards) is 60 mph for the section that has no houses directly on it, 50-55 mph after the curve when there are some houses (people usually slow down here). |
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| Posted: Thu, Aug 26 2010, 7:33 am EDT Post subject: Re: Topic locked? |
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| Give it up already. It's not changing. We saw the post on WWPToday and we see the posts here. We get it. |
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| Posted: Thu, Aug 26 2010, 9:41 am EDT Post subject: Re: Topic locked? |
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The lesson here is that government is a pretty big hammer. It does not do subtle well. When you petition the government for something like a speed change be careful what you wish for.
Yes, I believe the speed change is silly. But for that short distance on that road, I don't see how it really inconveniences people so I am willing to move on.
Moral of the story when you want a bureaucratic change don't expect subtlety. |
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| Posted: Thu, Aug 26 2010, 4:29 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Topic locked? |
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| Guest wrote: | | County actually had told me that the mayor wanted 25 on it, or something like that. Its not that I can't let it go, its that I shouldn't be banned for posting my opinions, and that people should actually try to be open minded. By the way, it does not MATTER what residents think it is, if they are not considering rational traffic engineering principles. Speed limits MUST be consistent to be valid. OTR is not a 40 mph road. An appropriate LIMIT (an actual 85th percentile speed limit rounded up to the nearest 5 mph as recommended by traffic engineering standards) is 60 mph for the section that has no houses directly on it, 50-55 mph after the curve when there are some houses (people usually slow down here). |
You wonder why you get banned but then you go and make stuff up like the Mayor asking the County to make it 25 which everyone knows is false. Most of the people here know enough about the issue to recognize such base BS. |
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