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CM-0o99
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PostPosted: Thu, Nov 6 2014, 6:20 pm EST    Post subject: Correct current library Reply with quote

Problems at the library. Wasteful habits, time and attendance abuse, mismanagement. Look before you build new space.
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PostPosted: Sun, Nov 9 2014, 10:38 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Correct current library Reply with quote

CM-0o99 you are wasting our time with your posts
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cm-0o99
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PostPosted: Fri, Nov 14 2014, 1:13 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Correct current library Reply with quote

And your wasting my tax dollars with a new library building. A new library building is a vanity project for members of Library Foundation. The current set up within public school is very beneficial. Board & Foundation resist the suggested re-configurations that would better utilize the current space to achieve their vain goal of new building. At the expense of non 1%ers in town.
More and more municipalities in NJ and elsewhere are consolidating and SHARING services. Why can't we??
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anon-0o99
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PostPosted: Sat, Nov 15 2014, 11:16 am EST    Post subject: Re: Correct current library Reply with quote

This is not the place to voice your objections: go to the library board meetings. They run the library...and plan for the future of the library. Also some of what you state is just not true - "current set up in the public school is very beneficial". This is un-secured space within the school. This is a new world now and we need to think of the safety of the children. Libraries already share services.
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PostPosted: Sat, Nov 15 2014, 11:34 am EST    Post subject: Re: Correct current library Reply with quote

anon-0o99 wrote:
This is not the place to voice your objections: go to the library board meetings. They run the library...and plan for the future of the library. Also some of what you state is just not true - "current set up in the public school is very beneficial". This is un-secured space within the school. This is a new world now and we need to think of the safety of the children. Libraries already share services.


Actually, this is a great place to share your concerns about the library. Going to the board meeting would be a waste of everyone's time. There is nothing you can say to the library board to sway their decision to pursue a new stand alone library. If you think that is a bad idea, your best course of action is to share your opinion and concerns with as many voters and potential donors as possible.
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PostPosted: Sat, Nov 15 2014, 2:10 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Correct current library Reply with quote

Why would going to the library board meetings be a waste of time? These are also Cranbury residents who volunteer their time and care enough to run our library. They are, by law, public meetings. Your voice will be heard. A waste of time is thinking that anonymous posts with dubious facts will influence voters. Is it one person, or it a dozen? This forum is good for venting - some people are angry about stuff... but as far as influencing people, it would be an insult to residents if they believe what is posted - especially in this current conversation.
Be a part of the community. Go to the next library board meeting and participate.
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PostPosted: Sat, Nov 15 2014, 10:42 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Correct current library Reply with quote

anon-npo2 wrote:
Why would going to the library board meetings be a waste of time? These are also Cranbury residents who volunteer their time and care enough to run our library. They are, by law, public meetings. Your voice will be heard. A waste of time is thinking that anonymous posts with dubious facts will influence voters. Is it one person, or it a dozen? This forum is good for venting - some people are angry about stuff... but as far as influencing people, it would be an insult to residents if they believe what is posted - especially in this current conversation.
Be a part of the community. Go to the next library board meeting and participate.


No need to be defensive. Going to a library board meeting and explaining why you think we don't need a new library is a waste of everyone's time. The people on the board have already heard most, if not all, of the objections and they have already made up their minds. It doesn't make them bad people.

There are, however, many people who are unfamiliar with the various pros and cons of pursuing a new library. People who are against a new library can be far more effective using a public forum to explain their position than going to a library board meeting.

I can understand why to people in favor of a library would prefer for objections to be raised in a relatively private forum, like a library board meeting, but it's disingenuous for those people to suggest that raising objections at a board meeting will be productive.
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anon-0o99
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PostPosted: Mon, Nov 17 2014, 12:03 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Correct current library Reply with quote

Voicing opinions is one thing. This forum is great for that. Representing opinions as facts is another. If you truly want the library to listen or take your opinions seriously, you must go to the library board meeting - this is a public meeting just like the township committee meetings. Minutes from these meeting are public as well. As far as presenting pros and cons, how reliable are your sources? How can we trust an anonymous blog?
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PostPosted: Mon, Nov 17 2014, 10:00 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Correct current library Reply with quote

anon-052s wrote:

There are, however, many people who are unfamiliar with the various pros and cons of pursuing a new library. People who are against a new library can be far more effective using a public forum to explain their position than going to a library board meeting.


After several years of planning and discussion, people are still unfamiliar with the pros and cons?
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PostPosted: Mon, Nov 17 2014, 10:03 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Correct current library Reply with quote

CM-0o99 wrote:
Problems at the library. Wasteful habits, time and attendance abuse, mismanagement. Look before you build new space.


If you make claims, then you need to provide proof of these or at least make your claims specific. Otherwise you sound like an idiot.
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cm-0292
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PostPosted: Tue, Nov 18 2014, 1:30 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Correct current library Reply with quote

The library board have presented unsound statistics to support current staffing levels much less a new building.

Library reports from board meeting show:
20,000 website hits each month. what the director doesnt state is that repetitive staff access to email, catalog, databases are 3/4 of that stat.

Watch the staff count the door, do they subtract themselves, deliveries, students who come in and out after school?

Program participation stats are inflated. Librarians bring personal friends and family to events, game night, clubs. beefs up the crowd. After school kids counted in program number just because they hanging out.

Sure go to board meeting, but watch what goes on in the current library. Do the real numbers justify a $3.5 building?
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PostPosted: Tue, Nov 18 2014, 9:54 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Correct current library Reply with quote

anon-s1sn wrote:
anon-052s wrote:

There are, however, many people who are unfamiliar with the various pros and cons of pursuing a new library. People who are against a new library can be far more effective using a public forum to explain their position than going to a library board meeting.


After several years of planning and discussion, people are still unfamiliar with the pros and cons?


IMHO, yes.
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PostPosted: Tue, Dec 9 2014, 7:18 am EST    Post subject: Re: Correct current library Reply with quote

Actually, it is quite unclear to me, is the proposed new library going to be built with raised fund or with tax money?
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PostPosted: Thu, Dec 18 2014, 2:21 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Correct current library Reply with quote

Just listen in library. Two blondes talk kids and dogs non stop.
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PostPosted: Sat, Dec 20 2014, 10:49 am EST    Post subject: Re: Correct current library Reply with quote

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Actually, it is quite unclear to me, is the proposed new library going to be built with raised fund or with tax money?

The foundation will raise the money for bricks and mortar. Any tax money is used to run the library.
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PostPosted: Sat, Dec 20 2014, 1:08 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Correct current library Reply with quote

$600,000 of the money they have for their new building of books is tax dollars
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