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[quote="Guest"][quote="Guest"][quote="Guest"][quote="Guest"][quote="Guest"][quote]True you then get to wait a week with smelly overflowing trash on your property. Remember Government can always do it for you just not better.[/quote] Sorry to chime in again with essentially the same thing I posted two days ago. If you desire more than one pick up a week, this probably doesn't work for you. You should vote no. If you think this is about big government, you are starting to border on being a whack job. This is about using collective buying power to negotiate a better price. There are other sites and issues where you can go off on anti-government rants where they actually make sense.[/quote] The money will be collected by Cranbury and to do so Cranbury will have to hire a new "part time" employee which could very easily turn into a full time employee once the billing and complaint issues become apparent. This sounds a lot like bigger government to me and if that makes me a whack job then so be it. Does everyone in town really want to pay for another employee for the town who will cost at least 10k a year to start and then will cost us much more once they are full time and have to then add in benefits and pension.[/quote] You are really making a large leap here. - Let's assume we hire a new employee at 10k part time to do billing there are no benefits paid. That is still a savings from the dump days we get rid of having to spend on. - Why would billing be a concern? The billing is a fixed amount per home. It's not a usage fee. Every home gets the same bill same cost. When the tax bill goes out so does the trash bill. Or maybe we just look at the trash company sending the bill out to the homes and collecting the money. That could be part of what the TC looks at. - Why are you envisioning massive service issues? People are going to call the company directly and be told to do so. The town is not collecting your trash, whoever the private company is will collect the trash. The company doing so is still a private company not employed by the town. But, let's say you decide to involve the town because you don't want to call the provider. The minimal amount of calls handled I am sure could be done by a current employee. Why do I say this? Because people like yourself want to stay with your provider. The service is not going to change to where garbage fills the street or amounts of pick ups are missed. There will be a service agreement guaranteeing how the service the town is to receive.[/quote] If it is on the tax bill people will call the town offices. If their is an issue with the company the people who paid the tax on their bill will go to the town offices with their issue. If trash is not picked up for some reason who will resolve the issue? The town. Your taking a utopian view of the world.[/quote] It's not on the tax bill it is a separate bill. There will be a number to call which is the provider. How often is your trash not picked up today? I have never had to call even when my own town did the trash pick up. I don't remember any issues years ago when Cranbury had trash service either.[/quote]
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Posted: Sat, Oct 23 2010, 10:43 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler
guest4 wrote:
1.How will the tax exempt properties be billed? There are quite a few residential properties that are property tax exempt for varoious reasons [VA Disability etc.].
2. Mr. Cook stated on Oct. 11, 2010 in the presentation to the township that "Cost savings will offset future personnel costs to handle billing and processing" based on that statement there will be additional hidden costs that will come out of the general tax budget that will be paid by all taxpayers including Four Seasons and others such as COAH housing and they will not receive any benefit as there waste is presently paid for through their maintence or rent. There also may be legal fees associated for those who do not pay and there may be the necessity to establish a reserve fund to insure the ability to pay the contractor.
1) This is not a tax it is not built into the tax bill. It is a separate bill.
2) Those properties are still paying for the clean up day in their taxes. So if there are savings from clean up day and the money is used to offset hiring someone part time then they are still ahead of the game. Of course, why not ask in the bid process if the contractor will bill people directly instead of the town? Since this has not gone to bid and the referendum is only to investigate why not ask this question of the contractor? In terms of COAH, since we subsidize them as a town I don't think they really are a valid part of this discussion. The Four Seasons are valid.
This is a referendum to look and see what can be done and what the final cost would be. A second referendum is to proceed. A lot of the questions raised seem to relate more to the second referendum than to this one which is to investigate the issue.
To me it comes down to with a family I need to count every penny. I make cuts on cable, don't eat out often, take the family to the movies maybe every few months if that, and don't own a business with a dumpster. I look for every way to save and if I can save $20 a month then to me that is important. I can't validate spending $20 more a month because someone with more money then me feels they can throw away $240-$400 a year simply because they want the option to change a provider when they likely have used the same provider for years. I really wish I had the income of people where $240-$400 is no big deal it must be nice.
guest4
Posted: Sat, Oct 23 2010, 10:07 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler
1.How will the tax exempt properties be billed? There are quite a few residential properties that are property tax exempt for varoious reasons [VA Disability etc.].
2. Mr. Cook stated on Oct. 11, 2010 in the presentation to the township that "Cost savings will offset future personnel costs to handle billing and processing" based on that statement there will be additional hidden costs that will come out of the general tax budget that will be paid by all taxpayers including Four Seasons and others such as COAH housing and they will not receive any benefit as there waste is presently paid for through their maintence or rent. There also may be legal fees associated for those who do not pay and there may be the necessity to establish a reserve fund to insure the ability to pay the contractor.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 11:14 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
My bill 127.78 a quarter.
What company, what size containers, how often? Without those trhee facts its not useful info.
midco twice a week mid size container.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 10:10 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler
Guest wrote:
Midco
once a week
middle sized container
$75 per quarter
I pay $90 per quarter for the same service as yours.
I'll call Midco to complain.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 9:58 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler
Midco
once a week
middle sized container
$75 per quarter
Guest
Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 9:36 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
My bill 127.78 a quarter.
What company, what size containers, how often? Without those trhee facts its not useful info.
Mine is about that. I can tell you-
Midco, middle size container, twice a week pick up. I can't do once a week with one container. I can do once a week with two containers.
And the people quoting higher presumably have the large size containers. So its not an issue of "getting a bad deal" as a previous poster noted but just different service.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 8:08 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
My bill 127.78 a quarter.
What company, what size containers, how often? Without those trhee facts its not useful info.
Mine is about that. I can tell you-
Midco, middle size container, twice a week pick up. I can't do once a week with one container. I can do once a week with two containers.
Us too
Guest
Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 7:38 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
My bill 127.78 a quarter.
What company, what size containers, how often? Without those trhee facts its not useful info.
Mine is about that. I can tell you-
Midco, middle size container, twice a week pick up. I can't do once a week with one container. I can do once a week with two containers.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 7:18 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler
Guest wrote:
So most people are like me then, I pay a lot more than $70 a quarter which is about where the Town purchase would be. I have not found a cheaper provider. I have twice a week and the mid-size container. So I would have improved service at a lower cost.
To me that is what it is all about regardless of who does my negotiation.
and less noise most nights.
and quaterly cleanup from curb, nice.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 5:00 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler
Guest wrote:
My bill 127.78 a quarter.
What company, what size containers, how often? Without those trhee facts its not useful info.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 4:41 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler
So most people are like me then, I pay a lot more than $70 a quarter which is about where the Town purchase would be. I have not found a cheaper provider. I have twice a week and the mid-size container. So I would have improved service at a lower cost.
To me that is what it is all about regardless of who does my negotiation.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 3:49 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler
My bill 127.78 a quarter.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 3:38 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
I just got my bill, I pay $662 per year, one can twice a week, so I can save $400 per year. I am voting yes to look into this. If anything, the actions of the TC to at least explore the idea have helped me as I now plan to seek a better fee, regardless of whether or not the town becomes the service provider. Well done, TC!
I suggest you call other providers yourself because your over paying.
I pay similar and there is no lower cost option available. You don't know what you're talking about.
I agree. Same here. I would like the poster who says you can do better to specifically post the company that is true of. When I quoted before there was not another company willing to do the large size can (I believe it is 90 gallons?) twice a week for a better price.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 3:13 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
I just got my bill, I pay $662 per year, one can twice a week, so I can save $400 per year. I am voting yes to look into this. If anything, the actions of the TC to at least explore the idea have helped me as I now plan to seek a better fee, regardless of whether or not the town becomes the service provider. Well done, TC!
I suggest you call other providers yourself because your over paying.
I pay similar and there is no lower cost option available. You don't know what you're talking about.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 3:00 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler
Guest wrote:
I just got my bill, I pay $662 per year, one can twice a week, so I can save $400 per year. I am voting yes to look into this. If anything, the actions of the TC to at least explore the idea have helped me as I now plan to seek a better fee, regardless of whether or not the town becomes the service provider. Well done, TC!
I suggest you call other providers yourself because your over paying.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 3:00 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler
Guest wrote:
I just got my bill, I pay $662 per year, one can twice a week, so I can save $400 per year. I am voting yes to look into this. If anything, the actions of the TC to at least explore the idea have helped me as I now plan to seek a better fee, regardless of whether or not the town becomes the service provider. Well done, TC!
I pay 123 a quarter, one can twice a week. This will save me close to 300 bucks. Thanks TC (I mean my local GOVERNMENT)