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[quote="guest13"]I have a strong suspicion this is a fake post from a TROLL designed only to elicit outraged responses while the idiot sits back and laughs that he/she got a reaction. Even the name is designed to be confusingly similar to Dan Mulligan's old "Cranbury Conservative" alias, when it clearly is not Dan's opinion. So I won’t bother feeding the TROLL with pointed responses that give too much credit to the post. Obviously it doesn’t reflect what real residents of this Township feel. Some losers have too much time on their hands.[/quote]
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iamawino
Posted: Thu, Dec 29 2011, 11:17 am EST
Post subject: Re: Christmas Spectacular on Main Street SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT!!
Last Three nights for our Shows, Thursday, Friday and Saturday night 6,7,8 and 9:00pm.
Thank you SO MUCH all who have donated this year, we have had a record year! I will be putting up the totals on January 1st.
iamawino
Posted: Thu, Dec 15 2011, 7:18 am EST
Post subject: Re: Christmas Spectacular on Main Street SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT!!
Thank you! It was a lot of fun we appreciate all the donations last night, another record night!!!!
Don't Forget Santa is coming on Saturday night 7:00-8:00pm to take pictures with the kids!
Also please vote for our house, our school could win $100,000!
http://deckthehouse.patch.com/contest/eastwindsor/entry/224632
Had Fun
Posted: Thu, Dec 15 2011, 7:08 am EST
Post subject: Re: Christmas Spectacular on Main Street SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT!!
Thanks for the wonderful show last night. It was neat to see the lights in sync with the live music show. My daughter and I loved it.
shadow oaks
Posted: Tue, Dec 13 2011, 8:46 am EST
Post subject: Re: Christmas Spectacular on Main Street SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT!!
Chistmas spectacular wrote:
The poster that sounded off against Keith deserves no response. This person is irrelevant.
...
I agree. Not all posters are worthy of a serious response; some are not even Cranbury residents.
Chistmas spectacular
Posted: Tue, Dec 13 2011, 8:40 am EST
Post subject: Re: Christmas Spectacular on Main Street SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT!!
The poster that sounded off against Keith deserves no response. This person is irrelevant.
I have gotten to know Keith over the last 2 or 3 years and I consider myself fortunate to have him as a friend. He is generous to his friends and others. Many on this forum know of the events at his house during Halloween and Christmas. His motives are quite clear: he loves spending time with his boys setting up the displays, he enjoys the time he spends with friends (new and old), and he satisfies a deep and heartfelt commitment to help families facing food insecurity.
I enjoy helping Keith set up his displays and do so not only because he is a friend, but also because of my involvement with other hunger relief efforts. Since 2007, food insecurity has crept into many more households, including those that are higher up the economic ladder as jobs have been lost. Food banks and emergency feeding operations are stretched beyond capacity as need rises and people's ability to give declines.
Keith has again arranged for Judy Pancoast to sing at his display - hopefully the weather will cooperate this time. Please go enjoy the show, and support Keith's food drive to the extent that you are able.
Are U kidding?
Posted: Mon, Dec 12 2011, 10:49 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Christmas Spectacular on Main Street SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT!!
Keith,
Thank you very much for enduring one person's opinion on your show.
I, for one, think Clark Griswald is one of the best family men out there, btw. I wish that i had the creativity to do this on my house.
Best wishes for the holidays!
iamawino
Posted: Mon, Dec 12 2011, 10:04 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Christmas Spectacular on Main Street SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT!!
Thank you, needless to say it has been a sad night at our house. I thank you for your comment.
CranburyMom
Posted: Mon, Dec 12 2011, 9:47 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Christmas Spectacular on Main Street SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT!!
Mr. Shaw, I don't know you or your family, but we are neighbors. I can say that as a neutral observer, I think it's a nice thing that you do for the town and for those less fortunate. The fact that you had to defend yourself and explain the concept of charity to someone is a shame and says far more about them than it does about you. It's easy to sit at a computer and anonymously criticize the motives of others, it's much harder to actually get off your butt and do something because you want to make a difference. For that, I commend you. I have not seen the show, but my kids enjoy seeing the lights when we drive by and we have always tried to drop off some food in your boxes. I will do the same this year. And honestly, if what you do for the town and community makes people to want to give their business to your company, then so what? There's nothing wrong with that, and I hope that every meal that your family provides for a hungry child comes back to you all tenfold.
Merry Christmas, from my family to yours!
iamawino
Posted: Mon, Dec 12 2011, 8:10 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Christmas Spectacular on Main Street SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT!!
I will not respond to an anonymous poster but I would like to address some of your points directly with you. I am providing my phone number; 609-636-6870. If you have the courage to call me I can provide you the answers you are looking for.
I will provide some key points about me and why giving back is so important to me. As a Christian I truly feel blessed for all that has been given to me and in my heart I feel for those who are in need. We live in an area that has so much to give to those who are in need. Maybe this poster does not realize that most food to food banks goes to kids and within 5 miles of Cranbury there are kids who go to bed EVERY night hungry. As a father of two boys I cannot imagine what it would be like if my boys had to go to bed hungry. It makes me sad just with the thought. If I can change this even in a very smallest of a way by working hard to bring people to see a Christmas Display while at the same time giving joy to 1000’s well…
My parents raised me to help others that needed help, all my life I have been involved with different charity organizations. For many years I was the chairman for the NJ State Fellowship of Christian Athletes Annual Golf Outing. If it was not for me giving to those in need with that organization I would never have meet my wife which then lead to my two children Alexander and Kristopher. I was at the Baltusrol Golf Club one Saturday afternoon having a meeting for the outing and then went to lunch at a restaurant nearby and this is where I meet Marina!
Ok, I will admit we do receive a huge benefit from what we do. We go to bed every night knowing that in some small way we have tried to make a difference to those who are not as fortunate. I get to spend many hours with my boys working on our displays and at the age of 6 Alexander already knows how important it is to help others. I would also like to say at the age of 6 He knows what this Display is all about, just ask him!
100% of every donation goes to Charity and 100% of everything goes to those who need it. There is no overhead from either the Church or the staff. We do not get any tax break from what we do, we do not sell anything. We simply want to make a difference.
My most important point. I am grateful to my friends who are my neighbors here in Cranbury for making it possible to help others. For you I am grateful!
another guest
Posted: Mon, Dec 12 2011, 7:14 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Christmas Spectacular on Main Street SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT!!
I was there were you wrote:
I find it liable that you would make “soft” accusations of where the donations go, it is no wonder why you post anonymously. We were at the Shaws event they did with Judy Pancoast on Wednesday so this comes first hand. The press was also there so these facts can be checked up on. The director of the Church Ministry spoke at the event and explained where 100% of all donations (food and cash) go. She explained how the Princeton Alliance Food Bank distributes the food and we were also told that 100% of everything goes to the needy. There is zero overhead to the church or staff. Are you saying that the Princeton Alliance Church is not a “legitimate” organization? Knowing that 100% of my donations are going where it is needed is very comforting.
I would also like to comment on your issue of Cranbury being a town of “historic preservation and bringing people back in time” I think with that statement you are correct. You did take us back in time but to a bad time. Are you serious???? Are you dictating/suggesting what someone can do with their property or own money or what not to do with it simply because of the town it is in? I would say with your comment of many finding this display “ghastly”. We take our kids to see the display quite often and I can tell you we have seen many Cranbury families there also on a regular basis. I have also talked to many of the other mothers about this and have not talked to a single one who had anything bad to say they also enjoy taking their kids there. So to this I say there is always going to people like you who complain (oh again anonymously since you don’t have the courage to say who you are.)
Lastly I do not know the Shaws personally but do attend many of their events with my family and from hearing him speak of why he does what he does I believe him to be very much in the right place.
Mr. Shaw, keep doing it don’t let people like this get you down, there is always someone in the world who tries to bring other to their low level.
Keep up the good work Mr. Shaw !!!Looking forward to seeing the show on Wednesday night
I was there were you
Posted: Mon, Dec 12 2011, 6:10 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Christmas Spectacular on Main Street SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT!!
I find it liable that you would make “soft” accusations of where the donations go, it is no wonder why you post anonymously. We were at the Shaws event they did with Judy Pancoast on Wednesday so this comes first hand. The press was also there so these facts can be checked up on. The director of the Church Ministry spoke at the event and explained where 100% of all donations (food and cash) go. She explained how the Princeton Alliance Food Bank distributes the food and we were also told that 100% of everything goes to the needy. There is zero overhead to the church or staff. Are you saying that the Princeton Alliance Church is not a “legitimate” organization? Knowing that 100% of my donations are going where it is needed is very comforting.
I would also like to comment on your issue of Cranbury being a town of “historic preservation and bringing people back in time” I think with that statement you are correct. You did take us back in time but to a bad time. Are you serious???? Are you dictating/suggesting what someone can do with their property or own money or what not to do with it simply because of the town it is in? I would say with your comment of many finding this display “ghastly”. We take our kids to see the display quite often and I can tell you we have seen many Cranbury families there also on a regular basis. I have also talked to many of the other mothers about this and have not talked to a single one who had anything bad to say they also enjoy taking their kids there. So to this I say there is always going to people like you who complain (oh again anonymously since you don’t have the courage to say who you are.)
Lastly I do not know the Shaws personally but do attend many of their events with my family and from hearing him speak of why he does what he does I believe him to be very much in the right place.
Mr. Shaw, keep doing it don’t let people like this get you down, there is always someone in the world who tries to bring other to their low level.
please
Posted: Mon, Dec 12 2011, 4:18 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Christmas Spectacular on Main Street SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT!!
Cranburian wrote:
Guest is obvously one of the losers to which he/she is referencing. (Name calling is the last resort when there is there is no reasonable response to the post.
Poster Conservative Cranbury hits the nail on the head. The gaudy display is certainly not Cranbury.
Same poster as ConserveCranbury, different alias. Yeah, so clever. I guess you're like Alec Baldwin on SNL declaring yourself great.
If you had a "real" point instead of TROLLING you wouldn't have followed Dan's email with an alias designed to be confused with his own and you wouldn't have used the over-the-top language and allegeations. There's is zero chance this is a legitimate post.
Todd&Margo
Posted: Mon, Dec 12 2011, 3:11 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Christmas Spectacular on Main Street SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT!!
ConserveCranbury wrote:
To me, this is the ultimate in gaud and waste. Cranbury is a town known for it historic preservation and bringing people back in time.
The lights are an eccentric extravaganza in a town that prides itself on simple beauty. Many find the display ghastly. A display that says, “I have more than you.” is what is important, not the fact that Jesus and quiet giving is considered charitable. There are food drives run by legitimate organizations in town that would never ask for cash donations.
The fact is there are many noteworthy events in town that need front-page recognition; it appears that promoting yourself or business is the main cause. For the past several years, people have wondered where does the food go? Where does the money go? Now at least there is a sign stating something more than: “Local Food Bank.” The papers do have listed a local church.
Many, remember clearly, several years ago when the Cranbury Wine Tour turned into a personal advertisement for the local wine store and a “Toot Your Own Horn”, entrepreneur. People were pressured into buying today and time spent listening to the town’s history was rudely thrown to the side buy the talk of buying wine. Again, “Me first!” not the town or the cause.
I find it appalling that on Halloween our tax dollars went to man the street in front of the house because the fog machine caused a road hazard for a 1/2 mile stretch on main street making it dangerous for pedestrians and motorist alike. Again, “Me first!”
The marketing skills are commendable, many assume that business is the real push behind the scenes, but tax write-offs should not be done at the expense of my tax dollars. I would love to see the books kept on this…probably as well kept at the Cranbury Swim Clubs.
Remember, do not honk your horn while looking at the display, "Tooting Your Own Horn", is not in style in Cranbury."
Is this display really about the Holiday Spirit or about selling spirits?
Ok, so unlike most of the other posters on this forum who love to slap the "Troll" label on anyone with an opinion that differs from theirs, I'm going to treat your post as a valid, albeit disgruntled, point.
I get that the lights display is probably a pain for some people, neighbors in particular. I have to imagine that the lights, the noise, the traffic can be inconvenient. So it's not surprising to me that not everyone in Cranbury is 100% in love with the Christmas Spectacular. But what exactly is your complaint? That somebody driving by on their way to Plainsboro might see the display and think that Cranbury is a tacky, Griswoldian village? That this guy might try to sell some wine out of the deal? Or that he might get a tax break? Why does this matter to you? Are you suggesting that Mr. Shaw is procuring his Christmas Dinner from the donation box? No really, I'm not sure what your actual complaint is.
Do you think that a family that gets to sit down to a Christmas dinner that they might not otherwise be able to afford is going to care that Keith Shaw sold a few cases of wine along the way? If a hungry child gets to go to sleep on Christmas Eve with a full stomach as the result of donations from the display, is that worth a bit of traffic and possibly a temporarily blocked driveway? I'm asking sincerely. I don't even know the Shaw family and I've never seen the show, aside from driving past it on my way home over the years. I'm not a troll, I'm a resident just like you, and I don't have much of an opinion of the whole thing one way or another. I do think it's a nice thing to do, and always try to drop a few things in the box every year. So what if the motives behind it aren't 100% altruistic. Why exactly are you so bothered by this?
Cranburian
Posted: Mon, Dec 12 2011, 2:02 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Christmas Spectacular on Main Street SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT!!
Guest is obvously one of the losers to which he/she is referencing. (Name calling is the last resort when there is there is no reasonable response to the post.
Poster Conservative Cranbury hits the nail on the head. The gaudy display is certainly not Cranbury.
guest13
Posted: Mon, Dec 12 2011, 1:49 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Christmas Spectacular on Main Street SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT!!
I have a strong suspicion this is a fake post from a TROLL designed only to elicit outraged responses while the idiot sits back and laughs that he/she got a reaction. Even the name is designed to be confusingly similar to Dan Mulligan's old "Cranbury Conservative" alias, when it clearly is not Dan's opinion. So I won’t bother feeding the TROLL with pointed responses that give too much credit to the post. Obviously it doesn’t reflect what real residents of this Township feel. Some losers have too much time on their hands.
ConserveCranbury
Posted: Mon, Dec 12 2011, 12:34 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Christmas Spectacular on Main Street SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT!!
To me, this is the ultimate in gaud and waste. Cranbury is a town known for it historic preservation and bringing people back in time.
The lights are an eccentric extravaganza in a town that prides itself on simple beauty. Many find the display ghastly. A display that says, “I have more than you.” is what is important, not the fact that Jesus and quiet giving is considered charitable. There are food drives run by legitimate organizations in town that would never ask for cash donations.
The fact is there are many noteworthy events in town that need front-page recognition; it appears that promoting yourself or business is the main cause. For the past several years, people have wondered where does the food go? Where does the money go? Now at least there is a sign stating something more than: “Local Food Bank.” The papers do have listed a local church.
Many, remember clearly, several years ago when the Cranbury Wine Tour turned into a personal advertisement for the local wine store and a “Toot Your Own Horn”, entrepreneur. People were pressured into buying today and time spent listening to the town’s history was rudely thrown to the side buy the talk of buying wine. Again, “Me first!” not the town or the cause.
I find it appalling that on Halloween our tax dollars went to man the street in front of the house because the fog machine caused a road hazard for a 1/2 mile stretch on main street making it dangerous for pedestrians and motorist alike. Again, “Me first!”
The marketing skills are commendable, many assume that business is the real push behind the scenes, but tax write-offs should not be done at the expense of my tax dollars. I would love to see the books kept on this…probably as well kept at the Cranbury Swim Clubs.
Remember, do not honk your horn while looking at the display, "Tooting Your Own Horn", is not in style in Cranbury."
Is this display really about the Holiday Spirit or about selling spirits?