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[quote="Guest"]Here is a great idea. Instead of wasting your time on writing this fake story about a house burning to the ground because of the new siren, why don't you do something more constructive with your time like ummm VOLUNTEER on the Fire Dept. But than again why would you do that? Your too busy complaining about the new siren to care about helping the community. Get a life....[/quote]
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Guest
Posted: Mon, Feb 8 2010, 5:46 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The "new fire horn"
Can we move this debate to a thread that is more appropriate?
Guest
Posted: Mon, Feb 8 2010, 3:57 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The "new fire horn"
Looking into what exactly? Most of the posters here are anonymous, which is common on the Internet, so why should the host not be? If the person is local, and I don't think we even know whether he/she is, wouldn't it subject them to possible pressure from neighbors to do the very thing you object to, which is selectively censor the site?
Does anyone have any knowledge whether anything beyond that one instance has resulted in deleted posts? And in that case the moderator posted that they did it so it wasn't a secret. I have certainly seem plenty of offensive posts on both ends of the political spectrum here so it doesn't seem to be the case that anything that doesn't jive with a certain political viewpoint is deleted.
Guest
Posted: Mon, Feb 8 2010, 2:57 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The "new fire horn"
Guest wrote:
Quote:
I do have concerns about this site, however. A neighbor of mine has told me that one of his posts and others were removed from this site by the moderator. There is no statement why they were removed or even which ones were removed. If this site is going to be used by the town’s public officials, if only for announcements, then there should be public disclosure as to why posts are being erased. I have seen public forums like this remove offensive posts, but usually the individual post is left – only the content removed and a statement that the post has been removed.
I think it also would be necessary to identify who is the moderator, who are the owners and interested parties connected with this site and whether they have any affiliation with Cranbury Township or any political parties.
Agree 100 percent.
I think we should still be looking into this
Madison
Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2010, 8:25 am EST
Post subject: Re: The "new fire horn"
Folks,
Please read the About Us page:
http://www.cranbury.info/viewtopic.php?t=1815
I want to stress that:
1) The views expressed by the posters on this site do not represent the views of the people operating this site.
2) This site is not affiliated with any political party and is not an official site of the Cranbury township, which is at
http://cranburytownship.org.
I did remove postings recently; these messages are personal attacks related to former planning board members (sorry, I forgot their names).
After you submit a posting and you see a message saying your posting has been saved, that indicates that the computer software detects a possible spam posting (a false positive). That posting will be reviewed by the moderators. One likely cause is that you post too fast (similar to a computer generated posting). You can fix it by waiting for about 20 seconds and then clicking the "Submit" button.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Feb 4 2010, 6:41 am EST
Post subject: Re: The "new fire horn"
I disagree with the above comments. The site is largely self policed. I don't see posts removed unless they are spam or internet sales offerings. I read this fairly regularly so I would think I would have noticed a post disappear. There are occasions where I get a message saying my post was stored to be posted later due to a server issue.
I think the benefit of the site is not knowing the owner or their affiliation. Most people could care less. In fact most people in town would agree that political affiliation at the local level is meaningless. Just look at the recent TC election as proof.
If you think this is important and disagree with the moderator you are free to leave or not visit. This is a private site not a township authorized site. It seems to me there are a number of people trying to discredit the value of this site to the town.
Once the moderator (owner) diviluges themself I think we lose something. Further, I think it's pretty sad that people who would call for someone to identify themself fail to do so themselves. And yes I am posting as guest, but I am not asking the moderator to come forward.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2010, 11:53 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The "new fire horn"
if the moderator needs help making this forum more uptodate, there are new versions of this software that could help fight some of the nasty posting and tighten up anon usage, etc.
Let me know if you need help fixing it.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2010, 7:10 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The "new fire horn"
Quote:
I do have concerns about this site, however. A neighbor of mine has told me that one of his posts and others were removed from this site by the moderator. There is no statement why they were removed or even which ones were removed. If this site is going to be used by the town’s public officials, if only for announcements, then there should be public disclosure as to why posts are being erased. I have seen public forums like this remove offensive posts, but usually the individual post is left – only the content removed and a statement that the post has been removed.
I think it also would be necessary to identify who is the moderator, who are the owners and interested parties connected with this site and whether they have any affiliation with Cranbury Township or any political parties.
Agree 100 percent.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2010, 4:03 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The "new fire horn"
A pox on both of your houses. Complaints on spelling? Petty.
Thanking Jay and Win for there use of "new" media? Possibly stupider than spelling complaints. This thread is done, move on.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2010, 3:03 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The "new fire horn"
Grrrr wrote:
Jay Taylor: Isn't it a conflict of interest for you to be working on the siren considering you live nearby? (And by the way, liaison was misspelled). I don't know about the rest of you, but I RESENT Jay using this mean-spirited complaint blog as an official mouthpiece for township business. He's going to get the town in trouble, and then we'll have some unnecessary legal expenses to pay.
Thank you Jay for providing useful information. It is wonderful that you and Win use new media to share information with the public. Most people appreciate the openness.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2010, 2:55 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The "new fire horn"
Guest wrote:
Grrrr wrote:
Jay Taylor: Isn't it a conflict of interest for you to be working on the siren considering you live nearby? (And by the way, liaison was misspelled). I don't know about the rest of you, but I RESENT Jay using this mean-spirited complaint blog as an official mouthpiece for township business. He's going to get the town in trouble, and then we'll have some unnecessary legal expenses to pay.
I also appreciated Jay’s response on this website.
I do have concerns about this site, however. A neighbor of mine has told me that one of his posts and others were removed from this site by the moderator. There is no statement why they were removed or even which ones were removed. If this site is going to be used by the town’s public officials, if only for announcements, then there should be public disclosure as to why posts are being erased. I have seen public forums like this remove offensive posts, but usually the individual post is left – only the content removed and a statement that the post has been removed.
I think it also would be necessary to identify who is the moderator, who are the owners and interested parties connected with this site and whether they have any affiliation with Cranbury Township or any political parties.
You know we could always start our own website that posts are not taken off of. If people start posting on the new one everyone will go there.... Just a thought!
Guest
Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2010, 2:31 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The "new fire horn"
Grrrr wrote:
Jay Taylor: Isn't it a conflict of interest for you to be working on the siren considering you live nearby? (And by the way, liaison was misspelled). I don't know about the rest of you, but I RESENT Jay using this mean-spirited complaint blog as an official mouthpiece for township business. He's going to get the town in trouble, and then we'll have some unnecessary legal expenses to pay.
I also appreciated Jay’s response on this website.
I do have concerns about this site, however. A neighbor of mine has told me that one of his posts and others were removed from this site by the moderator. There is no statement why they were removed or even which ones were removed. If this site is going to be used by the town’s public officials, if only for announcements, then there should be public disclosure as to why posts are being erased. I have seen public forums like this remove offensive posts, but usually the individual post is left – only the content removed and a statement that the post has been removed.
I think it also would be necessary to identify who is the moderator, who are the owners and interested parties connected with this site and whether they have any affiliation with Cranbury Township or any political parties.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2010, 12:46 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The "new fire horn"
Grrrr wrote:
Jay Taylor: Isn't it a conflict of interest for you to be working on the siren considering you live nearby? (And by the way, liaison was misspelled). I don't know about the rest of you, but I RESENT Jay using this mean-spirited complaint blog as an official mouthpiece for township business. He's going to get the town in trouble, and then we'll have some unnecessary legal expenses to pay.
Is this a joke post? If so, the sarcasm isn't obvious. Since when was Jay "working" on the siren issue? His email simply conveyed information. It didn't imply he was working toward some action regarding it. And quote me the line in his response that will “get this town in trouble” or “lead to unnecessary legal expense.” LOL. Now that was funny. And how did his posting, BTW, make him the official “mouthpiece” for township business.
And are you seriously suggesting it is a bad thing for TC members to try and be helpful by looking into constituents concerns and sharing information with the community? What planet are you from? I can see resenting TC members who don't do this but not the opposite. Jay campaigned on more transparency in local government and it seems like he's being consistent to that pledge. Thanks Jay.
BTW, do you have a better online site to suggest for real-time discussions about Cranbury? If not why not start one or improve this one with your participation?
Guest
Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2010, 12:45 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The "new fire horn"
Grrrr wrote:
Jay Taylor: Isn't it a conflict of interest for you to be working on the siren considering you live nearby? (And by the way, liaison was misspelled). I don't know about the rest of you, but I RESENT Jay using this mean-spirited complaint blog as an official mouthpiece for township business. He's going to get the town in trouble, and then we'll have some unnecessary legal expenses to pay.
So don't come here then.
I don't think there is anything to hide the business of this township, is there?
Guest
Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2010, 11:54 am EST
Post subject: Re: The "new fire horn"
Jay T. wrote:
Hello all,
I spoke with the Fire and First Aid Squad about the siren. There was a Squad call last night, but unlike the Fire siren which is on 24 hours a day, the siren for the Squad should not go off after 9pm. They are working on the issue and I'd kindly ask people to please be patient as this is a brand new siren and we're working the bugs out. I understand the siren should only last 1.5- 2 minutes.
I apologize for any inconvenience or woken babies (we had one in our house too). I am happy to answer or bring forth any of your questions as I am the TC liason to the Fire and Fist Aid Squad. You can email me at:
jtaylor@cranbury-nj.com
.
Again, I thank you for your understanding and patience.
Jay Taylor
Thanks Jay We need more civil responsive individuals like you.
Grrrr
Posted: Wed, Feb 3 2010, 11:39 am EST
Post subject: Re: The "new fire horn"
Jay Taylor: Isn't it a conflict of interest for you to be working on the siren considering you live nearby? (And by the way, liaison was misspelled). I don't know about the rest of you, but I RESENT Jay using this mean-spirited complaint blog as an official mouthpiece for township business. He's going to get the town in trouble, and then we'll have some unnecessary legal expenses to pay.
Guest
Posted: Sun, Jan 31 2010, 4:40 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The "new fire horn"
According to my cousin their police and public works are fighting. That is on top of all the issues they have with getting their TC and Mayor to work together.