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[quote="Guest"]Seriously, they have been able to call the governor results state-wide but there is no word on the results of a local election with only hundreds of voters?[/quote]
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Posted: Thu, Nov 5 2009, 11:41 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Cranbury exit polls?
In addition to the idealogical progressives noted by previous posters, there are a lot of state workers, union workers and low/moderate income families in Cranbury, many of whom have a vested financial interest in democratic control of state government. Republican rhetoric tends to alienate these groups. My guesstimate is these groups total at least 600 voters. Kudos to those who voted against Corzine anyway.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Nov 5 2009, 8:57 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Cranbury exit polls?
Its only been 2days and the democratic corruption is already coming to light. Ex-Trenton lobbyist alleges 3 year affair with N.J. Democratic chairman, denies stalking (but what about the political favors?) I wonder how much dirt we will truly see when the Christie administration moves into Trenton permanently.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/11/ex-trenton_lobbyist_alleges_3.html
Guest
Posted: Thu, Nov 5 2009, 11:06 am EST
Post subject: Re: Cranbury exit polls?
Results wrote:
Linda Greenstein- 717
Wayne DeAngelo- 630
Rob Calabro- 823
Bill Harvey-827
Perspective:
- 630 people supported Wayne. That is almost as many as supported Glenn (653) who worked hard and knocked on doors in town.
- Linda had 717 and that is almost as many as Dan had (731) who also worked hard and knocked on doors in town.
- Corzine had 579 votes. So Wayne DeAngelo and Linda Greenstein who supported COAH and worked with Corzine and others in the same manner had more votes. Logically, one would think if people were not voting party line the Governor and Assembly votes would be closer together. It seems people voted for Christie and then went back and supported the assembly candidates.
Where 2 seats were open:
- 3,004 votes were cast for assembly, 3076 were for TC in Cranbury. That means people simply skipped over assembly.
- 2,887 votes were cast for freeholder so that really shows minimal concern.
Probably 600 of those are just clueless electorates who aren't paying any attention to the issues around them and just blinding vote for party. Maybe 30 are people who did so consciously out of a self-interest that trumps the Township issues or because of some strong idealogy that overrides their interests as Cranbury residents.
It just proves what is already obvious with every incumbent state-wide getting re-elected, which is that the system is broken. Most people are voting blindly.
Results
Posted: Thu, Nov 5 2009, 8:41 am EST
Post subject: Re: Cranbury exit polls?
Linda Greenstein- 717
Wayne DeAngelo- 630
Rob Calabro- 823
Bill Harvey-827
Perspective:
- 630 people supported Wayne. That is almost as many as supported Glenn (653) who worked hard and knocked on doors in town.
- Linda had 717 and that is almost as many as Dan had (731) who also worked hard and knocked on doors in town.
- Corzine had 579 votes. So Wayne DeAngelo and Linda Greenstein who supported COAH and worked with Corzine and others in the same manner had more votes. Logically, one would think if people were not voting party line the Governor and Assembly votes would be closer together. It seems people voted for Christie and then went back and supported the assembly candidates.
Where 2 seats were open:
- 3,004 votes were cast for assembly, 3076 were for TC in Cranbury. That means people simply skipped over assembly.
- 2,887 votes were cast for freeholder so that really shows minimal concern.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Nov 5 2009, 7:51 am EST
Post subject: Re: Cranbury exit polls?
How many Cranbury votes did DeAngelo receive?
Guest
Posted: Thu, Nov 5 2009, 7:26 am EST
Post subject: Re: Cranbury exit polls?
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Cranbury
Christie: 840; Corzine: 535; Daggett: 135
This means that approx. 35% of our towns people do not understand the negative impact Corzine had planned for our beautiful town.
This is truly scary to me, and for Cranbury
Even scarier was how many Wayne DeAngelo votes were cast. I really wish Republican or Democrat that if you don't care enough to research the candidate that you then don't vote. I know it flys in the face of what I say that every vote is important, but if you're voting only for party and don't take even a few minutes to research the candidate and understand their issue then you are doing more harm by voting. Politicians are seeking a job and you would not hire someone to work in your home or office without interviewing them or reading their resume. Why would you then vote on someone whose job it is to make law and control our town if you don't research their background. Look at who says what and when. It's great if people agree, but are they agreeing because the message is hitting home and they know it is easy to do? Or are they agreeing because they raised an issue first? Wayne and Linda supported COAH in a non-election year. When the two opponents started hitting the message of helping Cranbury and opposing COAH it resonated. At that point Wayne and Linda came out saying COAH needed to be changed. They had no desire prior and if Corzine were in office would have no desire post. It was simply an election ploy on their part.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Nov 5 2009, 12:38 am EST
Post subject: Re: Cranbury exit polls?
Quote:
Democratic Assemblyman Anthony Chiappone was re-elected after being accused of taking money from legislative aides' paychecks and putting it into campaign and personal accounts.
With this kind of NJ ROBO voting, its a wonder we dont have more corruption, as a democratic politician you are free to do whatever you want in this state, even give favors to unions because you will get re-elected automatically here.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Nov 5 2009, 12:10 am EST
Post subject: Re: Cranbury exit polls?
Guest wrote:
Cranbury
Christie: 840; Corzine: 535; Daggett: 135
This means that approx. 35% of our towns people do not understand the negative impact Corzine had planned for our beautiful town.
This is truly scary to me, and for Cranbury
Guest
Posted: Wed, Nov 4 2009, 11:52 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Cranbury exit polls?
Cranbury
Christie: 840; Corzine: 535; Daggett: 135
This means that approx. 35% of our towns people do not understand the negative impact Corzine had planned for our beautiful town.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Nov 4 2009, 11:45 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Cranbury exit polls?
Guest wrote:
I do blame the democratic led TC for not getting the word out better about what a CORZINE administration would do in the Cranbury Press,etc. But there were still a bunch of meetings throughout the year and millions of posts on this very board that should have helped educate the local voter. I'm not sure what happened??? I really want to understand this also. Can someone who voted for Corzine in Cranbury please share, you can stay anonymous but I really wanted to understand this also.
I would bet at best 10% of the Cranbury electorate read this site. Even fewer attend most of the meetings. Few discuss politics with their neighbors. Fewer still do serious reading and research on the issues and there hasn't been that much to read in the conventional media that makes the implications of these issues digestable for the average voter.
The bottom line is many people have no clue what they are voting for -- they vote their party line. That's why not a single incumbent was upset in the State Assembly.
It is disappointing but true.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Nov 4 2009, 11:14 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Cranbury exit polls?
I do blame the democratic led TC for not getting the word out better about what a CORZINE administration would do in the Cranbury Press,etc. But there were still a bunch of meetings throughout the year and millions of posts on this very board that should have helped educate the local voter. I'm not sure what happened??? I really want to understand this also. Can someone who voted for Corzine in Cranbury please share, you can stay anonymous but I really wanted to understand this also.
HistoricallyFiscal
Posted: Wed, Nov 4 2009, 11:12 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Cranbury exit polls?
Something like 480 Cranbury votes picked Corzine, WHY? I'm just curious, with all that he wanted to do to kill Cranbury Character and consolidate our school to eradicate what Cranbury would be in the future. Even if you were alergic to touching the republican lever, you still had Daggett to pick. And why were there a bunch of Corzine political lawn signs up in Cranbury???? Can someone please explain how he got sooooo many votes here in Cranbury yesterday, I have to know??
Guest
Posted: Wed, Nov 4 2009, 1:12 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Cranbury exit polls?
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Cranbury: David Cook (D), 815, and James Taylor (R), 760, defeat Dan Mulligan (R), 684, and Glenn Johnson (D), 614
www.centraljersey.com/articles/2009/11/03/all_stories/doc4ae1b76bce82b125926810.txt
Why would another Dem be voted in???? Why?????
Because Dave is a good guy who knows Cranbury well. It is time to stop politicizing the local election. Cranbury has always been about voting for the individual not a party. If you vote only along party lines in local elections you are a dope.
I'm sorry, but your statement is just not true. I like Dave Cook and have nothing against his election. And I am a Democrat for what it's worth. But your statement implies that those wanting to vote against the Democrats currently are responsible for politicizing the local elections when the truth is some of us were voting against Democrats precisely because the current Democratic Township Committee members politicized it. I have never voted against my party until I moved to Cranbury. But when I learned that the Democratic majority on the Committee were using party affiliation as a basis for selecting volunteer board appointees and freezing the Republican Committee member out of discussions and positions simply because of his party, that is what prompted me to cross the line locally even as I remained loyal to party federally. I agree that historically Cranbury government has been about individuals and not party, but the current Democrats on the Township Committee are responsible for undermining that. So for some of us it was about voting against that to try and restore the proper balance.
Hopefully Dave Cook will not align himself with Mr. Stout and Mr. Stannard who have so thoroughly undermined the tradition of our local Township government with their party politics and personal party ambitions over Township interests. If so I think you will find by the next election some people are less focused on party in the race.
The statement implies nothing of the sort. It means what it says vote for the individual not the party. For example, If you voted for Dan and Jay because you thought, for instance, they had the best temperament and skill set for the job, great more power to you, you have voted well. If you voted for Dan and Jay simply because they are on the republican line, you are a dope.
The point is some non-republicans may have voted for Dan or Jay simply because they were against the status quo of the controlling Democrats on the Township Committee just as many non-Republicans clearly voted for Christie more because they were against Corzine. Voting for someone because you oppose the alternative (whether it be the candidate, their positions or in the case of Cranbury their chosen affiliation with the existing Committee majority) is a perfectly valid approach. Mr. Stout and his alliance (that zones together 100 percent of the time) made local politics and about party first and some of us didn't agree with that even if we belonged to the same party. I wish Mr. Cook had not accepted the endorsement of Mr. Stout and I would feel much better about him but I nonetheless hold optimism that he will be part of a new wave of change on the Committee that can correct the tenures of Mr. Stout and his block. I give him the benefit of the doubt and wish him only the best.
bumpkin
Posted: Wed, Nov 4 2009, 12:00 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Cranbury exit polls?
TC picnic? wrote:
How about holding an annual "TC families, friends, volunteers picnic" event? All the volunteers and helpers for Town related matters are invited to attend.
I hope this would include those that
volunteer
at the "new" Cranbury Coffee House. This committee works tirelessly to help promote community outreach, while always maintaining a focus on providing for the First Presbyterian church deacon's fund and local food pantry through proceeds collected at each coffee house event.
www.cranburycoffeehouse.com
TC picnic?
Posted: Wed, Nov 4 2009, 11:29 am EST
Post subject: Re: Cranbury exit polls?
How about holding an annual "TC families, friends, volunteers picnic" event? All the volunteers and helpers for Town related matters are invited to attend.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Nov 4 2009, 11:28 am EST
Post subject: Re: Cranbury exit polls?
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Cranbury: David Cook (D), 815, and James Taylor (R), 760, defeat Dan Mulligan (R), 684, and Glenn Johnson (D), 614
www.centraljersey.com/articles/2009/11/03/all_stories/doc4ae1b76bce82b125926810.txt
Why would another Dem be voted in???? Why?????
Because Dave is a good guy who knows Cranbury well. It is time to stop politicizing the local election. Cranbury has always been about voting for the individual not a party. If you vote only along party lines in local elections you are a dope.
I'm sorry, but your statement is just not true. I like Dave Cook and have nothing against his election. And I am a Democrat for what it's worth. But your statement implies that those wanting to vote against the Democrats currently are responsible for politicizing the local elections when the truth is some of us were voting against Democrats precisely because the current Democratic Township Committee members politicized it. I have never voted against my party until I moved to Cranbury. But when I learned that the Democratic majority on the Committee were using party affiliation as a basis for selecting volunteer board appointees and freezing the Republican Committee member out of discussions and positions simply because of his party, that is what prompted me to cross the line locally even as I remained loyal to party federally. I agree that historically Cranbury government has been about individuals and not party, but the current Democrats on the Township Committee are responsible for undermining that. So for some of us it was about voting against that to try and restore the proper balance.
Hopefully Dave Cook will not align himself with Mr. Stout and Mr. Stannard who have so thoroughly undermined the tradition of our local Township government with their party politics and personal party ambitions over Township interests. If so I think you will find by the next election some people are less focused on party in the race.
The statement implies nothing of the sort. It means what it says vote for the individual not the party. For example, If you voted for Dan and Jay because you thought, for instance, they had the best temperament and skill set for the job, great more power to you, you have voted well. If you voted for Dan and Jay simply because they are on the republican line, you are a dope.