Cranbury Forum | Bulletin | Info Sharing
[Click here to bookmark this page: http://cranbury.info]
▪
Cranbury School
▪
Cranbury Township
▪
Cranbury Library
▪
Cranbury.org
▪
Cranburyhistory.org
(Press Ctrl and = keys to increase font size)
Search
Register (optional)
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
[http://cranbury.info]
->
News | Events
Post a reply
Username
Subject
Message body
Emoticons
Font colour:
Default
Dark Red
Red
Orange
Brown
Yellow
Green
Olive
Cyan
Blue
Dark Blue
Indigo
Violet
White
Black
Font size:
Tiny
Small
Normal
Large
Huge
Close Tags
[quote="Guest"]Anyone know if they are doing deals on the twice-a-week service for the larger containers?[/quote]
Options
HTML is
ON
BBCode
is
ON
Smilies are
ON
Disable HTML in this post
Disable BBCode in this post
Disable Smilies in this post
All times are GMT - 4 Hours
Jump to:
Select a forum
Topics
----------------
News | Events
School | Parenting
Blogs by Cranbury Residents
Shopping | Good Deals | Price Talk
Home Sweet Home
House For Sale
Home Sales Pricing Records
Financial | Stocks | Mutual Funds
Cool Bytes & Bits
Garage Sale | ForSale Ads | Things to Trade
Tech Related (PC, Internet, HDTV, etc.)
Interesing and Fun Stuff to Share
What's Your Favorite?
Interests | Hobbies
Cranbury History
Radom Thoughts | Sports | Kitchen Sink
Amazon Deals
Local Business Info
----------------
Local Business Ads (FREE)
Support
----------------
Daily Sponsored Message & Amazon Ads
About Us | Your Privacy | Suggestion | Sponsored
Test Area (Practice your posting skills here)
Topic review
Author
Message
Guest
Posted: Wed, Nov 17 2010, 6:07 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Central Jersey Waste and Recycle $75 per quarter
[quote="Guest"]
Guest wrote:
guest25 wrote:
Guest wrote:
guest25 wrote:
As an FYI, the TC is looking at garbage because the voters said do it, the voters could have said no and it would have stopped. The TC has nothing to do with our school taxes. That is the BOE who has nothing to do in turn has nothing to do with the garbage proposal.
I know the BOE has nothing to do with school taxes. However, it makes up well over 60% of my total tax bill. Saving $200 or so a year on garbage is nothing to sneeze at, however, it's like trying to put out a campfire in the middle of a forest fire.
Realistically if you want to save a lot of money on school taxes your best bet is to move. A lot of people in this town moved here for the schools and from their POV that's the main benefit of paying taxes here. That's why when well over half of all school budgets were rejected by voters earlier this year ours won approval by a landslide. So, right or wrong, you are in the minority. And Christie can't help short of forcing the entire township to merge since we already get $0 from the state and cover 100% of our costs locally.
In fact, over 25% of the school budget is state mandated programs that benefit less than 10% of students. So if you really want to save money on school taxes the solution is to get the state to reduce its mandated program which they don't help fund, or to at least fund programs they mandate.
It's such a pain to have to adequately educate those unfortujnate disabled children - what were those governmental officials in Trenton thinking?
The problem with that kind of thinking is it automatically assumes all spending is necessary and all the mandates are appropriate. Thinking like that is why government spending is so much less efficient and so bloated compared to private industry. Successful businesses challenge every assumption, audit every expense and then do so again year-after-year. Your logic is to knee-jerk say if it is mandated it must be good and appropriately handled. There’s no room for improvement.
The post didn’t suggest all mandates go away. It suggested that if the state mandates it, they should contribute to the cost. NJ State sends over $10 billion a year to public schools. Yet despite their mandates contributing almost a quarter of Cranbury School’s budget they don’t send a dime here. If the State believes these are important programs, why not direct some of their funding, which is contributed to by our taxes, to their programs? As it stands the state is taking Cranbury’s money, mandating what we pay for then sending our money to other schools and leaving us to pay again.
No one said we shouldn’t provide reasonable support for disabled (I believe the current term is “challenged”) kids. But even beyond the potential for misclassification and redundant or ineffective services is the a broader point about what is the appropriate obligation of communities that goes far beyond Cranbury. For example, the original intent of one law was that if some mentally or physically challenged children had needs that exceeded the capacity of the public schools that the district (i.e. the community taxpayers) were obligated to pay the full tuition for a private school or intuition that could better handle them. It was supposed to be determined case-by-case and the school was supposed to have the option to attempt to help the child within the system if they believed they could. In practice it has devolved into a system where parents, regardless of personal wealth, can unilaterally tell a school system they want full private tuition to the institution of their choosing without even letting the school see or evaluate the child or spend even one day in school. In other words, parents have a free ride to pick anywhere they want at any cost and automatically say “pay for this” without even giving the school a chance. And the taxpayers pay every dime. Some parents now “game” that system, moving to a convenient proximity of the private institution they want to use and making the local community they moved to for the sole purpose of the private school pay without even meeting the child. And this is but one example.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Nov 17 2010, 1:29 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Central Jersey Waste and Recycle $75 per quarter
There are a couple interesting articles about special ed in the HNT today. It makes you wonder if we aren't systematically mis-classifying thousands of kids.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Nov 17 2010, 1:16 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Central Jersey Waste and Recycle $75 per quarter
[quote="Guest"]
Guest wrote:
guest25 wrote:
Guest wrote:
guest25 wrote:
As an FYI, the TC is looking at garbage because the voters said do it, the voters could have said no and it would have stopped. The TC has nothing to do with our school taxes. That is the BOE who has nothing to do in turn has nothing to do with the garbage proposal.
I know the BOE has nothing to do with school taxes. However, it makes up well over 60% of my total tax bill. Saving $200 or so a year on garbage is nothing to sneeze at, however, it's like trying to put out a campfire in the middle of a forest fire.
Realistically if you want to save a lot of money on school taxes your best bet is to move. A lot of people in this town moved here for the schools and from their POV that's the main benefit of paying taxes here. That's why when well over half of all school budgets were rejected by voters earlier this year ours won approval by a landslide. So, right or wrong, you are in the minority. And Christie can't help short of forcing the entire township to merge since we already get $0 from the state and cover 100% of our costs locally.
In fact, over 25% of the school budget is state mandated programs that benefit less than 10% of students. So if you really want to save money on school taxes the solution is to get the state to reduce its mandated program which they don't help fund, or to at least fund programs they mandate.
It's such a pain to have to adequately educate those unfortujnate disabled children - what were those governmental officials in Trenton thinking?
Maybe the cost should be actual as opposed to mandated spending.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Nov 17 2010, 12:37 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Central Jersey Waste and Recycle $75 per quarter
[quote="Guest"]
guest25 wrote:
Guest wrote:
guest25 wrote:
As an FYI, the TC is looking at garbage because the voters said do it, the voters could have said no and it would have stopped. The TC has nothing to do with our school taxes. That is the BOE who has nothing to do in turn has nothing to do with the garbage proposal.
I know the BOE has nothing to do with school taxes. However, it makes up well over 60% of my total tax bill. Saving $200 or so a year on garbage is nothing to sneeze at, however, it's like trying to put out a campfire in the middle of a forest fire.
Realistically if you want to save a lot of money on school taxes your best bet is to move. A lot of people in this town moved here for the schools and from their POV that's the main benefit of paying taxes here. That's why when well over half of all school budgets were rejected by voters earlier this year ours won approval by a landslide. So, right or wrong, you are in the minority. And Christie can't help short of forcing the entire township to merge since we already get $0 from the state and cover 100% of our costs locally.
In fact, over 25% of the school budget is state mandated programs that benefit less than 10% of students. So if you really want to save money on school taxes the solution is to get the state to reduce its mandated program which they don't help fund, or to at least fund programs they mandate.
It's such a pain to have to adequately educate those unfortujnate disabled children - what were those governmental officials in Trenton thinking?
Guest
Posted: Tue, Nov 16 2010, 6:11 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Central Jersey Waste and Recycle $75 per quarter
[quote="guest25"]
Guest wrote:
guest25 wrote:
As an FYI, the TC is looking at garbage because the voters said do it, the voters could have said no and it would have stopped. The TC has nothing to do with our school taxes. That is the BOE who has nothing to do in turn has nothing to do with the garbage proposal.
I know the BOE has nothing to do with school taxes. However, it makes up well over 60% of my total tax bill. Saving $200 or so a year on garbage is nothing to sneeze at, however, it's like trying to put out a campfire in the middle of a forest fire.
Realistically if you want to save a lot of money on school taxes your best bet is to move. A lot of people in this town moved here for the schools and from their POV that's the main benefit of paying taxes here. That's why when well over half of all school budgets were rejected by voters earlier this year ours won approval by a landslide. So, right or wrong, you are in the minority. And Christie can't help short of forcing the entire township to merge since we already get $0 from the state and cover 100% of our costs locally.
In fact, over 25% of the school budget is state mandated programs that benefit less than 10% of students. So if you really want to save money on school taxes the solution is to get the state to reduce its mandated program which they don't help fund, or to at least fund programs they mandate.
Guest
Posted: Tue, Nov 16 2010, 3:58 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Central Jersey Waste and Recycle $75 per quarter
guest12345 wrote:
I have been using Midco for years now and I pay $76 per quarter for a 96-gallon tote once a week since the spring of this year. I got Midco to reduce their prices after Central Jersey came in with the $75 offer.
If the township can get a trash company to come in twice a week to pick a 64-gallon tote for $270 a year, that would fine for me. However, I do not think it is fair for the empty-nesters and those families that do not produce much trash or anyone who does not use the service. For me, we should be spending our time and energy figuring ways to reduce our property taxes instead.
Well, considering the residents voted to investigate there is no discussion. The TC must now investigate and put it on referendum. Then next year everyone can vote and say yes or no.
guest12345
Posted: Tue, Nov 16 2010, 3:27 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Central Jersey Waste and Recycle $75 per quarter
I have been using Midco for years now and I pay $76 per quarter for a 96-gallon tote once a week since the spring of this year. I got Midco to reduce their prices after Central Jersey came in with the $75 offer.
If the township can get a trash company to come in twice a week to pick a 64-gallon tote for $270 a year, that would fine for me. However, I do not think it is fair for the empty-nesters and those families that do not produce much trash or anyone who does not use the service. For me, we should be spending our time and energy figuring ways to reduce our property taxes instead.
guest25
Posted: Tue, Nov 16 2010, 2:03 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Central Jersey Waste and Recycle $75 per quarter
[quote="Guest"]
guest25 wrote:
As an FYI, the TC is looking at garbage because the voters said do it, the voters could have said no and it would have stopped. The TC has nothing to do with our school taxes. That is the BOE who has nothing to do in turn has nothing to do with the garbage proposal.
I know the BOE has nothing to do with school taxes. However, it makes up well over 60% of my total tax bill. Saving $200 or so a year on garbage is nothing to sneeze at, however, it's like trying to put out a campfire in the middle of a forest fire.
g2
Posted: Tue, Nov 16 2010, 1:39 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Central Jersey Waste and Recycle $75 per quarter
I am waiting to see if the township deal can beat the Central Jersey Waste and Recycle's.
Guest
Posted: Tue, Nov 16 2010, 1:00 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Central Jersey Waste and Recycle $75 per quarter
guest25 wrote:
Central Jersey approached me last year and I called Midco and have a $75/quarter charge (i.e. They matched Central Jersey).
Contrary to a previous poster, this had NOTHING to do with our Township burning calories on this issue.
Our township shouldn't waste their energy on trash (i.e. searchig for a "problem" to a "solution"), but rather burn their calories on things like lowering our taxes (school taxes for sure!!)
I am telling you what the companies told me when I called. Maybe they lied to me, but why would they.
As an FYI, the TC is looking at garbage because the voters said do it, the voters could have said no and it would have stopped. The TC has nothing to do with our school taxes. That is the BOE who has nothing to do in turn has nothing to do with the garbage proposal.
guest25
Posted: Tue, Nov 16 2010, 12:40 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Central Jersey Waste and Recycle $75 per quarter
Central Jersey approached me last year and I called Midco and have a $75/quarter charge (i.e. They matched Central Jersey).
Contrary to a previous poster, this had NOTHING to do with our Township burning calories on this issue.
Our township shouldn't waste their energy on trash (i.e. searchig for a "problem" to a "solution"), but rather burn their calories on things like lowering our taxes (school taxes for sure!!)
Guest
Posted: Tue, Nov 16 2010, 10:21 am EST
Post subject: Re: Central Jersey Waste and Recycle $75 per quarter
Anyone know if they are doing deals on the twice-a-week service for the larger containers?
Guest
Posted: Tue, Nov 16 2010, 10:20 am EST
Post subject: Re: Central Jersey Waste and Recycle $75 per quarter
Guest wrote:
Seems like deals are available if people call. I jut locked in midco at the same rate. 75 a quarter for once a week.
Works for me, too. Thanks for the info.
Guest
Posted: Mon, Nov 15 2010, 5:35 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Central Jersey Waste and Recycle $75 per quarter
Seems like deals are available if people call. I jut locked in midco at the same rate. 75 a quarter for once a week.
Guest
Posted: Fri, Nov 12 2010, 8:39 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Central Jersey Waste and Recycle $75 per quarter
I got the notice right around the election. Central Jersey apparently wants a customer base before we go to bid as a town.
I then called Midco as I had 2 x pick up for 64 gallon and paid 126.00 a quarter. Midco turned me to a manager and they said they were willing to negotiate as they heard about the Central Jersey and our vote for garbage collection in town. They offered me the same deal as Central Jersey or my current pick up for the same cost as Central Jersey's promotion.
So I'd recommend calling and seeing what your provider would do. It looks like the TC and the referendum vote helped us out by giving us leverage we did not have before.
guest 3
Posted: Fri, Nov 12 2010, 8:36 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Central Jersey Waste and Recycle $75 per quarter
Seems to me for $75. per quarter here is a simple solution and no further discussion is necessary. Now we can stop wasting time and effort on the Garbage Tax and can get down to reducing taxes.