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[quote="guests"]If part of the Private Duty Service @ $60. per hour per police officer is mandated by the state it is just one more reason why we are in such bad financial straights. I'd love to know the logic of the township committee members in increasing the already exorbitant rate. The traffic directing duty for these construction jobs like old trenton road and plainsboro road can easily, and more professionaly be done by private contractors for considerably less. Its too bad we are coerced into having this burden placed on both the contractors and the township. Just one more reason to leave N. J.![/quote]
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Guest
Posted: Mon, Dec 27 2010, 10:22 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Dec,20 Committee Meeting Agenda--Amend "Private Duty Service"?
Guest wrote:
guest 4 wrote:
If the police officers are going to use the Cranbury Patrol cars we would hope they would set a good example and do their job in a most professional manner. For the privilege to make side money at a very good pay rate, they should not be on the cell phone, talking to each other endlessly and should get out of the patrol car and actually direct traffic. Wouldn't that be a novel idea?
I sense underlying resentment against Cranbury Police Officers. Your remarks are nasty and not constructive. As a previous poster stated when there is a police officer in a marked car, people do slow down and drive more cautiously. Most times this is why the contractor wants a police officer. I'm sure that when the officers need to direct traffic for safety purposes, they do. The idea that the officer should be constantly standing in traffic, when it is not neccesary, does not make sense.
Well said
Guest
Posted: Mon, Dec 27 2010, 6:30 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Dec,20 Committee Meeting Agenda--Amend "Private Duty Service"?
guest 4 wrote:
If the police officers are going to use the Cranbury Patrol cars we would hope they would set a good example and do their job in a most professional manner. For the privilege to make side money at a very good pay rate, they should not be on the cell phone, talking to each other endlessly and should get out of the patrol car and actually direct traffic. Wouldn't that be a novel idea?
I sense underlying resentment against Cranbury Police Officers. Your remarks are nasty and not constructive. As a previous poster stated when there is a police officer in a marked car, people do slow down and drive more cautiously. Most times this is why the contractor wants a police officer. I'm sure that when the officers need to direct traffic for safety purposes, they do. The idea that the officer should be constantly standing in traffic, when it is not neccesary, does not make sense.
guest 4
Posted: Mon, Dec 27 2010, 4:22 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Dec,20 Committee Meeting Agenda--Amend "Private Duty Service"?
If the police officers are going to use the Cranbury Patrol cars we would hope they would set a good example and do their job in a most professional manner. For the privilege to make side money at a very good pay rate, they should not be on the cell phone, talking to each other endlessly and should get out of the patrol car and actually direct traffic. Wouldn't that be a novel idea?
Guest
Posted: Fri, Dec 24 2010, 2:46 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Dec,20 Committee Meeting Agenda--Amend "Private Duty Service"?
Who cares, there are $0.00 tax money used. If a gas line needs to be run or electric run or sewer, then the utility company pays it. It is worked into their bid and we consumers would be charged for it regardless if a cop or an illegal alien directed the traffic.
I'd rather have a cop then some guy who can't speak English !
Guest
Posted: Fri, Dec 24 2010, 11:35 am EST
Post subject: Re: Dec,20 Committee Meeting Agenda--Amend "Private Duty Service"?
guest1 wrote:
Just because some other towns charge more is no reason for Cranbury to up the rates. The service being provided [directing traffic] is the same service provided by Public Service employees and other utility contractors who seem to do an excellent concientious job for the most part and it sure isn't at $60. + per hour. We need to start somewhere to try to reduce the costs and I'm sure the crossing guards would love the extra work and would certainly do a good job, remember we entrust the care of our children to them.
Crossing guards, like utility/construction company day laborers(who are often undocumented aliens or ex convicts and paid under the table) are fine for some jobs.They have no authority to enforce motor vehicle law. We trust crossing guards with our children. They receive some formal training in crossing from our police officers. They have also had criminal and mental health background checks conducted by police officers. They have no training or authority to enforce motor vehicle law. At our busiest intersection not controlled by a traffic signal, School Lane, a Police Officer is still required.
guest1
Posted: Fri, Dec 24 2010, 10:05 am EST
Post subject: Re: Dec,20 Committee Meeting Agenda--Amend "Private Duty Service"?
Just because some other towns charge more is no reason for Cranbury to up the rates. The service being provided [directing traffic] is the same service provided by Public Service employees and other utility contractors who seem to do an excellent concientious job for the most part and it sure isn't at $60. + per hour. We need to start somewhere to try to reduce the costs and I'm sure the crossing guards would love the extra work and would certainly do a good job, remember we entrust the care of our children to them.
Guest
Posted: Fri, Dec 24 2010, 12:22 am EST
Post subject: Re: Dec,20 Committee Meeting Agenda--Amend "Private Duty Service"?
$60.00 an hour is not mandated by the state. It is done per town. Monroe and South Brunswick both charge more. Most Middlesex towns charge more. Sworn Police Officers not private companies are the only ones who can enforce NJ title 39(Motor Vehicle Code) Do we really want private industry providing police services?
Guest
Posted: Fri, Dec 24 2010, 12:14 am EST
Post subject: Re: Dec,20 Committee Meeting Agenda--Amend "Private Duty Service"?
Many times the contractor pays for the officer because they feel that their workers and equipment are better protected when a police officer is present. Even when the police officer is in his car on the side of the road his/her presence does cause people to slow down and use more caution. Flagmen or construction workers do not have the authority to enforce motor vehicle law. When equipment constantly needs to be moved on and off the road, having a police officer, who can lawfully stop and direct traffic, not only provides safety for workers as well as the motorists, but also allows the work to get done sooner. The fee of $60.00 an hour for police side work is about average not just in New Jersey but in many/or most other states. How much does a plumber, electrician, or appliance repair person charge an hour?
Guest
Posted: Fri, Dec 24 2010, 12:14 am EST
Post subject: Re: Dec,20 Committee Meeting Agenda--Amend "Private Duty Service"?
Many times the contractor pays for the officer because they feel that their workers and equipment are better protected when a police officer is present. Even when the police officer is in his car on the side of the road his/her presence does cause people to slow down and use more caution. Flagmen or construction workers do not have the authority to enforce motor vehicle law. When equipment constantly needs to be moved on and off the road, having a police officer, who can lawfully stop and direct traffic, not only provides safety for workers as well as the motorists, but also allows the work to get done sooner. The fee of $60.00 an hour for police side work is about average not just in New Jersey but in many/or most other states. How much does a plumber, electrician, or appliance repair person charge an hour?
Guest
Posted: Thu, Dec 23 2010, 8:28 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Dec,20 Committee Meeting Agenda--Amend "Private Duty Service"?
guests wrote:
The premise that the contractor pays for the "Service" and the town contribution is zero is incorrect. Each time a public road is repaired or improved the citizen taxpayers have provided that money for those repairs. The cumulative exorbitant costs i. e. [ $60. per hour for a police officer to read a newspaper or talk on a cell phone and not direct traffic] is a huge waste of tax dollars and precious resources. The contractor has no choice except to comply with the mandate and really could care less about the service provided. These mandates place a huge unnecessary burden on the taxpaying public. One other thing we need to realize is that GRANT money is not free money it is money paid by the taxpayers. Why should Cranbury taxpayers pay for goodies in New Brunswick or Woodbridge pay for goodies in Cranbury? The wasteful spending that is supposedly justified because "ITS GRANT MONEY" is ridiculous. The examples like the waste on the ballfield and the $100,000. well are prime examples of squandering GRANT MONEY. Lets hope the new committee and other municipalities as well see the light and start to really look at saving all the taxpayers some money so we can stay in N. J..
Well said !
Guest
Posted: Thu, Dec 23 2010, 6:15 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Dec,20 Committee Meeting Agenda--Amend "Private Duty Service"?
guests wrote:
The premise that the contractor pays for the "Service" and the town contribution is zero is incorrect. Each time a public road is repaired or improved the citizen taxpayers have provided that money for those repairs. The cumulative exorbitant costs i. e. [ $60. per hour for a police officer to read a newspaper or talk on a cell phone and not direct traffic] is a huge waste of tax dollars and precious resources. The contractor has no choice except to comply with the mandate and really could care less about the service provided. These mandates place a huge unnecessary burden on the taxpaying public. One other thing we need to realize is that GRANT money is not free money it is money paid by the taxpayers. Why should Cranbury taxpayers pay for goodies in New Brunswick or Woodbridge pay for goodies in Cranbury? The wasteful spending that is supposedly justified because "ITS GRANT MONEY" is ridiculous. The examples like the waste on the ballfield and the $100,000. well are prime examples of squandering GRANT MONEY. Lets hope the new committee and other municipalities as well see the light and start to really look at saving all the taxpayers some money so we can stay in N. J..
The ball field is over 600k
Guest
Posted: Thu, Dec 23 2010, 4:00 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Dec,20 Committee Meeting Agenda--Amend "Private Duty Service"?
guests wrote:
The premise that the contractor pays for the "Service" and the town contribution is zero is incorrect. Each time a public road is repaired or improved the citizen taxpayers have provided that money for those repairs. The cumulative exorbitant costs i. e. [ $60. per hour for a police officer to read a newspaper or talk on a cell phone and not direct traffic] is a huge waste of tax dollars and precious resources. The contractor has no choice except to comply with the mandate and really could care less about the service provided. These mandates place a huge unnecessary burden on the taxpaying public. One other thing we need to realize is that GRANT money is not free money it is money paid by the taxpayers. Why should Cranbury taxpayers pay for goodies in New Brunswick or Woodbridge pay for goodies in Cranbury? The wasteful spending that is supposedly justified because "ITS GRANT MONEY" is ridiculous. The examples like the waste on the ballfield and the $100,000. well are prime examples of squandering GRANT MONEY. Lets hope the new committee and other municipalities as well see the light and start to really look at saving all the taxpayers some money so we can stay in N. J..
All true.
guests
Posted: Thu, Dec 23 2010, 3:36 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Dec,20 Committee Meeting Agenda--Amend "Private Duty Service"?
The premise that the contractor pays for the "Service" and the town contribution is zero is incorrect. Each time a public road is repaired or improved the citizen taxpayers have provided that money for those repairs. The cumulative exorbitant costs i. e. [ $60. per hour for a police officer to read a newspaper or talk on a cell phone and not direct traffic] is a huge waste of tax dollars and precious resources. The contractor has no choice except to comply with the mandate and really could care less about the service provided. These mandates place a huge unnecessary burden on the taxpaying public. One other thing we need to realize is that GRANT money is not free money it is money paid by the taxpayers. Why should Cranbury taxpayers pay for goodies in New Brunswick or Woodbridge pay for goodies in Cranbury? The wasteful spending that is supposedly justified because "ITS GRANT MONEY" is ridiculous. The examples like the waste on the ballfield and the $100,000. well are prime examples of squandering GRANT MONEY. Lets hope the new committee and other municipalities as well see the light and start to really look at saving all the taxpayers some money so we can stay in N. J..
Guest
Posted: Wed, Dec 22 2010, 10:49 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Dec,20 Committee Meeting Agenda--Amend "Private Duty Service"?
zero tax dollars are used, the construction company pays the money. No tax dollars are used is my understanding.
guests
Posted: Wed, Dec 22 2010, 8:51 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Dec,20 Committee Meeting Agenda--Amend "Private Duty Service"?
If part of the Private Duty Service @ $60. per hour per police officer is mandated by the state it is just one more reason why we are in such bad financial straights. I'd love to know the logic of the township committee members in increasing the already exorbitant rate. The traffic directing duty for these construction jobs like old trenton road and plainsboro road can easily, and more professionaly be done by private contractors for considerably less. Its too bad we are coerced into having this burden placed on both the contractors and the township. Just one more reason to leave N. J.!
quest
Posted: Wed, Dec 22 2010, 6:40 am EST
Post subject: Re: Dec,20 Committee Meeting Agenda--Amend "Private Duty Service"?
How can I get a 20% raise? It is amazing