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[quote="Guest"][quote="Guest"]Both Mr Stout and Stannard voted in favor of more studies and funding another report after our town just completed one back in Aug 07 for $250K. [/quote] They were in favor of more study but they also were in favor of purchasing it without any planned purpose and Stout specifically told people at the beginning of the meeting that the focus of comments should be on pursuing on the site or not and not about whether it should be a library or community center or parking, etc. So this is my question. What was he going to study if we weren't supposed to consider the purpose of the building? How could they determine the full costs without a purpose?[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, May 20 2008, 12:38 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Anyone interested in buying the PNC site?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I agree the final speaker had some folksy charisma and didn't do any harm. His new contribution was to clarify that he believed the purpose should be a library versus saying we should buy it without a purpose since that idea had been pretty much decimated by the end of the meeting. <br /> <br />But to a previous posters point the Mayor knew what side the speaker was on from his previous address and had just moments before refused to let someone else, also clearly passionate about their side, speak in opposition of the Mayor’s position. It was a dumb move. He should have said no to both or yes to both. It made him just look even more defensive and partisan to have been selective in favor of his side. Clearly it didn’t affect the outcome though it didn’t make the Mayor look good. <br /> <br />I wonder if Tom P. planned to oppose it in his vote from the beginning, in which case the whole evening was pre-determined, or if he came in undecided. Does anyone know?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, May 20 2008, 12:06 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Anyone interested in buying the PNC site?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I disagree; the Mayor knew this resident stance upfront and wanted to end the meeting with a proponent of his own view at the mic. Did the speaker add anything new to his original comments from the first time he was up? I did not think so aside from the jokes. This was not a Joking mater we were discussing though.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Jeff M.</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, May 20 2008, 11:11 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Anyone interested in buying the PNC site?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">In defense, the last speaker was funny and even though I was on the other side of the arguement I have to say that his energy earned him the right to re-address the audience. He ended the meeting on a good note.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, May 20 2008, 11:08 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: PNC purchase denied</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I am glad you folks showed up at the meeting and spoke against the purchase. I prefer emailing my objection because I fear public speaking.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, May 20 2008, 10:57 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Anyone interested in buying the PNC site?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Jeff M. wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">The individual was sitting in the crowd and not recognized. If he were to continue a dialogue then the room could have become a free for all. The individual should have gone up to the mike again and asked the question. <br /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />The guy actually first asked Stout for a chance to speak on the mike again but Stout refused to let him. That’s when he spoke up without the mike. Then right after saying he couldn’t speak again and because they were taking no repeat speakers, Stout let someone else speak a second time in support of the purchase…</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, May 20 2008, 10:23 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Anyone interested in buying the PNC site?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Yeah, Mr. Stout pretty much disowned his previous campaign pledge about "needs not wants" last night. Someone called him out on it and while he didn't deny previously saying it he instead said of the PNC site, "It's an opportunity, and lot of what we do are opportunities. If we only voted for essentials a lot of things wouldn't get done." <br /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />So, what does Mr Stout mean - if we plan it, we can't have it. BECAUSE we don't know what it will cost and don't know how to pay for it - Oops.... that's right we have to pay an outside agency to figure our what to do financially.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, May 20 2008, 10:16 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Anyone interested in buying the PNC site?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">3) With point 2 said, I found Mr. Stout to be pretty arrogant at times which surprised me. I have the strong feeling that he and Mr. Stannard were supporters of the purchase, not dialogue against and that he probably thought it would be a cake walk. After all he kept saying it was discussion to have further discussion. It was clear Mr. Stout was upset at dissenting opinion. Whether intended or not he did make some faces that showed he was getting tired. They realized no one issue was strong enough to make the purchase and they framed the dialogue in a manner that could have no direct opposition. We don't know the use. The issue was then that the TC looked even less prepared. Mr. Panconi and Wittman were the only one's on the entire TC who understood that COAH is a real threat. That scared me to no end because Mr. Stout, Stannard and Ms. Stave all seemed to ignore COAH as a reason to watch money. Mr. Berkowsky spoke as a resident and mentioned COAH. He raised some very good points. </td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I am glad to see people coming to this forum to discuss the important issues facing the town. I don't believe the Mayor and some of the TC members understand what's best for this fine town. We should encourage residents to come here and learn more about the issues.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Jeff M.</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, May 20 2008, 8:47 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Anyone interested in buying the PNC site?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Here are my notes from the meeting. <br /> <br />1) I noted that one individual addressed the article and letters in the paper last week opposing the purchase. Then that individual left. That bothered me since he didn't stay to see if those people responded. Seemed rather inconsiderate to me. If you are going to raise a question then let them respond. <br /> <br />2) I did not like Mr. Stout's prior work on TC, that is no secret. However, I have always found him to be doing what he thinks is best even if I disagree. He was correct in not responding to the individual. The individual was sitting in the crowd and not recognized. If he were to continue a dialogue then the room could have become a free for all. The individual should have gone up to the mike again and asked the question. <br /> <br /> <br />3) With point 2 said, I found Mr. Stout to be pretty arrogant at times which surprised me. I have the strong feeling that he and Mr. Stannard were supporters of the purchase, not dialogue against and that he probably thought it would be a cake walk. After all he kept saying it was discussion to have further discussion. It was clear Mr. Stout was upset at dissenting opinion. Whether intended or not he did make some faces that showed he was getting tired. They realized no one issue was strong enough to make the purchase and they framed the dialogue in a manner that could have no direct opposition. We don't know the use. The issue was then that the TC looked even less prepared. Mr. Panconi and Wittman were the only one's on the entire TC who understood that COAH is a real threat. That scared me to no end because Mr. Stout, Stannard and Ms. Stave all seemed to ignore COAH as a reason to watch money. Mr. Berkowsky spoke as a resident and mentioned COAH. He raised some very good points. <br /> <br />4) The TC has been discussing the issue since April yet could not provide any more cost information. They kept saying we want further discussion. Well, if they did due diligence and had the cost discussion before last night then people could have made better decisions. What have they been doing for this time? My guess is that they wanted open dialogue last night to get approval for further discussion. With that in hand they would go forward with the purchase without further comment. There were TC members looking for the best way to get what they wanted. <br /> <br />5) I was very disappointed in our town's attorney last night and wondered what services he was providing. A few residents mentioned being a landlord and renting the building. One said renting rooms could equal 28,000 in revenue. It is illegal for the town to rent a property to a business. The town's attorney should have made a comment at that point as one TC member also raised that comment. A town cannot rent property for income, nor can a church. That is a basic 101 legal comment and the attorney should have stepped in to make that point. Not doing so makes me wonder if he is aware.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>??</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, May 20 2008, 8:22 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Anyone interested in buying the PNC site?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Both Mr Stout and Stannard voted in favor of more studies and funding another report after our town just completed one back in Aug 07 for $250K. </td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />They were in favor of more study but they also were in favor of purchasing it without any planned purpose and Stout specifically told people at the beginning of the meeting that the focus of comments should be on pursuing on the site or not and not about whether it should be a library or community center or parking, etc. <br /> <br />So this is my question. What was he going to study if we weren't supposed to consider the purpose of the building? How could they determine the full costs without a purpose?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Because it is an "once in a lifefime opportunity"! What study do you folks want!? Just give me the money to make this "once in a lifefime opportunity" purchase. <br /> <br />What an efficient way to run a town.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, May 20 2008, 7:55 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Anyone interested in buying the PNC site?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Both Mr Stout and Stannard voted in favor of more studies and funding another report after our town just completed one back in Aug 07 for $250K. </td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />They were in favor of more study but they also were in favor of purchasing it without any planned purpose and Stout specifically told people at the beginning of the meeting that the focus of comments should be on pursuing on the site or not and not about whether it should be a library or community center or parking, etc. <br /> <br />So this is my question. What was he going to study if we weren't supposed to consider the purpose of the building? How could they determine the full costs without a purpose?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, May 20 2008, 7:49 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Anyone interested in buying the PNC site?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Yeah, Mr. Stout pretty much disowned his previous campaign pledge about "needs not wants" last night. Someone called him out on it and while he didn't deny previously saying it he instead said of the PNC site, "It's an opportunity, and lot of what we do are opportunities. If we only voted for essentials a lot of things wouldn't get done." <br /> <br />So why did he make the statement at all if he didn't believe it? Oh, I don't know, perhaps because he was up for re-election shortly after a massive increase in most people's taxes? But apparently that didn't matter anymore. Someone tried to say something about Stout's comment that we had great taxes and he cut them off saying it was not meaningful to the discussion. <br /> <br />What? Isn't that exactly what last night was about? The fact that he doesn't seem to think that concern about taxes are related to objections about the purchase just shows where his head is on this.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, May 20 2008, 6:51 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Anyone interested in buying the PNC site?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I just got back from the meeting and was happy with the outcome. I am pro-library for Cranbury sometime in the future but I do not support the current PNC buyout for its use. <br /> <br />At the meeting no good data or reasoning was presented by the proponents of PNC library. Both Mr Stout and Stannard voted in favor of more studies and funding another report after our town just completed one back in Aug 07 for $250K. We already have a tentative site for the future library in that report, but they both still supported the >$1.3mil purchase without a clear need. I am holding him accountable to his platform to "vote for NEEDS not WANTS" and his vote today should be recorded for future reference on this forum. Is there anyway to start a thread and have these important votes recorded by each TC member? Is it in the TC minutes? I wish I could have brought my recorder to capture the comments today for future reference at elections. <br /> <br />I wholeheartedly agreed with Mr Wittman statements at the meeting that the library should not be our main focus right now, COAH changes to Cranbury will forever damage our town if we don't focus our collective resources. From everything I have read about the latest changes to COAH 3rd round, Cranbury is still in deep danger. Kelly had done a great job rallying everyone but don't be mistaken by recent emails, we are not out of the woods by any means. With this defeat of PNC, maybe our town and TC can focus back on COAH rules and options instead of the library. I would rather have a good strategy and war-chest to fight the lawyers if it comes down to it, because fighting is still cheaper then funding $63mil in COAH obligatory homes here in Cranbury. <br /> <br />I also dont want to see Princeton High end its relationship with Cranbury because of the upcoming COAH growth. Did the TC discuss our next steps and moving forward plan on COAH?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, May 20 2008, 6:48 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Anyone interested in buying the PNC site?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I believe Mr. Stout eliminated any more potential negative comments by protecting Ms. Stave. I actually would have preferred he let her vote. I think she had the right to her opinion and should have been given the opportunity even if it was not required.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />As a Township Committee member she had the ability to insist on speaking. If she didn't, she made a choice to abide by Mr. Stout's decision. She has to be acocuntable for that decision directly or is not strong enough to be on the TC. <br /> <br />That said, definitely if she wanted to speak she had a right to be heard and I would have liked to see her go on the record. The only time she spoke was when she was quoting things but she never expressed any position all night.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon, May 19 2008, 11:26 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Anyone interested in buying the PNC site?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I believe Mr. Stout eliminated any more potential negative comments by protecting Ms. Stave. I actually would have preferred he let her vote. I think she had the right to her opinion and should have been given the opportunity even if it was not required.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />She's on the TC. She could have insisted on her turn the speak if she wanted to.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon, May 19 2008, 11:25 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: PNC purchase denied</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Very happy to hear that. <img src="images/smiles/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" border="0" /> <br /> <br />I count not make it, but I sent my objection by email to all the TC members. Did the TC mention about email responses? <br /> <br />For those who spoke in favor, was using the site as the free-standing library the main argument?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />They made no mention of the emails or previous comments. Mayor Stout tried to set the tone early on that it should not be a discussion about the library or any particular use, though that entire concept was contradictory since he also said he was in favor of further pursuit of the "facts" about the cost of the site which would be impossible without the purpose defined. <br /> <br />It seems as if people knew the Library was a controversial purpose so at first they followed his lead and didn't focus on it much. Later, after the idea of purchasing it without a purpose had been beat up as an idea too, more people started discussing it as the express purpose. <br /> <br />Basically there were 4 arguments in favor repeated in many forms: 1) Library, 2) Parking, 3) Need to control an important historic building, 4) "once in a lifefime opportunity for a good real estate purchase...</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon, May 19 2008, 10:59 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: PNC purchase denied</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Very happy to hear that. <img src="images/smiles/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" border="0" /> <br /> <br />I count not make it, but I sent my objection by email to all the TC members. Did the TC mention about email responses? <br /> <br />For those who spoke in favor, was using the site as the free-standing library the main argument?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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