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[quote="Guest"]good article from Hank promoting a building cap at 15-25% [quote] UPDATED: Additional thoughts on affordable housing With the Assembly poised to vote on a major reform of New Jersey's affordable housing laws -- a vote that was scheduled for this afternoon -- it is important to remind people that the goal of the state's program is to ensure that municipalities cannot zone classes of people out of their communities. (UPDATE: The Assembly approved the bill by a 45-33 vote, with two abstensions.) The question of affordable housing and zoning has been on the state's agenda -- and, to a degree, unresolved -- since the first Mount Laurel decision in the late-1970s. In that decision, the state Supreme Court ruled that Mount Laurel, a suburban community in Burlington County, was using its land-use laws to boost upper-income housing at the expense of housing for lower-income residents. The court overturned the local zoning rules and determined that "developing towns" had a responsibility to provide their fair share of the regional need for low- and moderate-income housing. The idea was to prevent municipal boundaries from becoming hard and fast "red lines" separating New Jersey citizens by race and class. The Legislature failed to respond and a second Mount Laurel decision came in 1983 -- eight years after the first -- ordering the state to create a mechanism to ensure the provision of affordable housing. The state was carved up into income zones -- Cranbury, Jamesburg, Monroe and South Brunswick are in the Middlesex, Somerset, Hunterdon zone -- and each developing town was assigned a number of units for which it was responsible. South Brunswick, for instance, has been responsible for about 937 units during the first two rounds, Cranbury 223 and Monroe 613. A provision was built-in, however, allowing towns to pay urban communities to take on up to half the units -- which both Cranbury and Monroe have done. South Brunswick has built or zoned for the full number in town. The mechanism, called a regional contribution agreement, were designed to allow developing communities to limit the impact at home of the state-mandate, but in my view violated the spirit of the Mount Laurel decisions. In the second Mount Laurel decision, Chief Justice Robert Wilentz wrote (quoted from New Jersey: Spotlight on Government (fifth edition), published by the League of Women Voters of New Jersey Education Fund) that: The basis for the constitutional obligation is simple: the State controls the use of land, all of the land. In exercising that control it cannot favor rich over poor. It cannot legislatively set aside dilapidated housing in urban ghettos for the poor and decent housing elsewhere for everyone else. The government that controls this land represents everyone. While the State may not have the ability to eliminate poverty, it cannot use that condition for the basis for imposing further disadvantages. And the same applies to the municipality, to which this control over land has been constitutionally delegated. The clarity of the constitutional obligation is seen most simply by imagining what this state could be like were this claim never to be recognized and enforced: poor people forever zoned out of substantial areas of the state, not because housing could not be built for them but because they are not wanted; poor people forced to live in urban slums forever not because suburbia, developing rural areas, fully developed residential sections, seashore resorts, and other attractive locations could not accommodate them, but simply because they are not wanted. It is a vision not only at variance with the requirement that the zoning power be used for the general welfare but with all concepts of fundamental fairness and decency that underpin many constitutional obligations. RCAs, as they are know, have always been an out, a way of diminishing obligations in the suburbs and ensuring that a large number of affordable units stay in the cities. While some of the rationales used to defend the use of RCAs are legitimate -- preservation of open space and historic properties, as in Cranbury -- the end result is the same: fewer affordable units in the suburbs. It is no accident that New Jersey is among the most segregated states in the nation. The RCA is not the only flaw in the Fair Housing Act. It also fails to recognize other public needs and impacts -- such as land preservation, the tax costs associated with adding students to schools and building new infrastructure -- and generally has left builders in the driver's seat (towns that do not comply with the state Council on Affordable Housing and receive certification could be prone to lawsuits that might force an even greater amount of housing, both affordable and market-rate, on the community). The Roberts bill offers a first step toward reform by ending RCAs, replacing the cash generated for poor communities with a trust fund and requiring that land preservation be taken into account. But it still leaves in place the possibility that a community could be required to increase its housing obligation by such a degree as to alter the community's character. This is the argument being made in Cranbury -- 600-plus affordable units, which is what would end up being required under the latest round (the 120 built plus nearly 500 new ones), would represent more than 40 percent of the total housing stock in this new Cranbury -- an absurd calculus that is driving the debate and could result in some drastic solutions. As I wrote in an editorial last week, a much broader set of reforms is needed -- including revenue sharing or a new tax system that allows jobs and housing to be viewed regionally rather than as parochially as it has been (too many decisions are made right now that are based solely on whether a project will generate property tax revenue and not on other factors) and a cap on the number of units any town can be forced to accept (somewhere between 15 percent and 25 percent of the total housing stock. The Roberts bill is not perfect, but it has the potential to renovate the system and make it better.[/quote][/quote]
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Posted: Sun, Jun 22 2008, 10:57 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: A-500 passed the State Assembly Today...
How is it that so many idiots get elected to public office?
Do voters NOT pay attention? Or do the candidates spew so much crap to get elected, that voters fall for the same bait & switch every election cycle?
Could we get into trouble if we pelted politicians with eggs & tomatoes while they march down our street waving, smiling & trying to shake our hands with their dirty paws?
Could we use up some of the salmonella-tainted eggs& tomatoes?
They can't arrest all of us, can they?
Whatever happened to home-rule?
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jun 19 2008, 1:36 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: A-500 passed the State Assembly Today...
Yes there are more residents and they have an advatange, but we can still put people in and there is no loyalty for the hometown in voting. Otherwise, all politicians would come from major cities.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Jun 18 2008, 10:05 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: A-500 passed the State Assembly Today...
Guest wrote:
You can't recall him so you have no choice, but to try and work with him and convince him. If we call his office and not send emails it will be harder for him to ignore us. Then when he runs again let's vote him out. Why not try and convince someone from Cranbury to run for office? It's always Hamilton that puts people in. Hamilton's own politics were corrupt and full of problems. Do we expect that the people running for Assembly from Hamilton will be any different?
Except Hamilton has 20-times the population of Cranbury so it stands to reason they have a substantial home field advantage.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Jun 18 2008, 10:02 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: A-500 passed the State Assembly Today...
You can't recall him so you have no choice, but to try and work with him and convince him. If we call his office and not send emails it will be harder for him to ignore us. Then when he runs again let's vote him out. Why not try and convince someone from Cranbury to run for office? It's always Hamilton that puts people in. Hamilton's own politics were corrupt and full of problems. Do we expect that the people running for Assembly from Hamilton will be any different?
Guest
Posted: Wed, Jun 18 2008, 8:33 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: A-500 passed the State Assembly Today...
Sorry, I just don't agree. DeAngelo has made it pretty clear, not just with this latest vote but with all his actions since election that he doesn't care at all about Cranbury. He has declined or ignored every invitation to appear at Cranbury events or meetings and he has ignored every letter sent to him by members of the Cranbury community. What politician can't even be bothered to have his staff send form letters back to constituents who write him? I have never seen any other politician do that, ever. Our tax dollars are expressly paying for a member of the staff to do just that, but he's obviously spending the money some other way. I think it is only a matter of time before he'll end up implicated in one of the many New Jersey corruption scandals, that aren't even scandals in NJ because they are so common.
Let's face it, he doesn't represent us in anything but name. He was picked by the political machine and run under their banner specifically so he would be a good soldier and do what he's told. He's doing what he was hired to do. We're the problem, for justifying that and continuing to accord him the dignity of an office that has no dignity. He is no different than a member of organized crime but instead of being called the Mob it is the Roberts machine. Neither group is interested in anything more than the personal prosperity of its own leaders. All the followers, like DeAngelo, go along because they get a little bit of the action.
You are wasting your time to "try and work with him" because he'll probably ignore you and if he doesn't it is only because you are convenient to him for some reason and he'll stab you in the back the first time it serves his interest or that of his party.
Cranbury Conservative
Posted: Wed, Jun 18 2008, 8:25 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: A-500 passed the State Assembly Today...
I like the bad manager analogy. Personally I have always lived by, I need to manage my manager. To your point we need to manage/ use Assemblyman DeAngelo to our advantage if possible.
James
Posted: Wed, Jun 18 2008, 6:48 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: A-500 passed the State Assembly Today...
Jerseydad is right. I view Wayne DeAngelo the same way I view a bad manager. A bad manager ignores the employees, makes poor decisions and ultimately will be forced to move on.
However, until that person is removed from their position one has to figure a way to work with them and to get them to either realize their errors or we have to find the key to working with that person. If we can get Wayne on our side and figure a way to work with him and get him to support us then we need to do it. Like a bad manager he's here and there is nothing we can do about it for the time being. So let's see what we can do to convince him that his vote was a mistake and that he should support us.
Jersey Dad
Posted: Wed, Jun 18 2008, 6:22 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: A-500 passed the State Assembly Today...
Guest wrote:
Jersey Dad wrote:
(Regarding Wayne DeAngelo)
In all seriousness, we need all the advocates we can get right now and it won't pay to antagonize anyone, even those who have let us down. And so our fate is in the hands of COAH officials, citizen activists, local and regional politicians. God bless Cranbury!
Are you kidding? He hasn't just "let us down," he has stabbed us in the back? He is activly working to try and kill the town. At a certain point if you are getting stabbed to death by someone you stop trying to plead with them to "help you" and recognize that you have to fight for your life.
There are amendments in this bill that give Cranbury a chance to work with COAH to arrive at a fair and reasonable obligation. However, there is a lot of subjectivity involved and the good will of our local politicians may be essential for a positive outcome. Barring a recall, Wayne DeAngelo is going to be one of our representatives during this process. I plan to give him every reason and opportunity to help us. If he can't, or won't help us, I will join those who burn him in effigy and campaign for whomever runs against him.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Jun 18 2008, 11:57 am EDT
Post subject: Re: A-500 passed the State Assembly Today...
Honestly, I would be willing to pay a higher property tax short term if it meant that we were moving the COAH obligations from the future to another town today. It's cheaper in the long run.
Cranbury Conservative
Posted: Wed, Jun 18 2008, 10:48 am EDT
Post subject: Re: A-500 passed the State Assembly Today...
As I mentioned in an earlier post
Speaker Roberts specifically cited areas without sewer and water hookups as areas which should be excluded from COAH
. I feel this helps Cranbury and we need to use it to our advantage since Roberts said the words.
Further the article below shows that Marlboro just entered into an RCA agreement because they are still legal until the new legislation is passed.
Does anyone know if the TC is working on such an agreement with anyone?
I believe our goal is to work with the original 3rd round numbers.
Additionally I believe we should be attempting to push through an RCA based on what we feel the numbers should be. At the very least they will still count if we get the RCA in before the passage of the legislation.
That’s my 2 cents.
Marlboro will pay Trenton to take affordable housing
MARLBORO - To help satisfy the township's state Council on Affordable Housing (COAH) obligation without building additional homes in Marlboro, the Township Council last week approved a resolution authorizing an addendum to a regional contribution agreement (RCA) between Marlboro and Trenton.
The council took the action during a special meeting held June 12.
The RCA will allow officials to transfer the responsibility for building a certain number of affordable homes in Marlboro to Trenton.
Township Attorney Ronald Gordon explained that the resolution would finalize the terms of the agreement which was originally entered into in July 2004.
Gordon said the original agreement provided the cost of transferring 332 affordable housing units to Trenton, but was then negotiated down to 252 units. He said Marlboro Mayor Jonathan Hornik and Trenton Mayor Douglas Palmer negotiated back to a transfer of 332 units.
The council unanimously approved a resolution to transfer the money for the 332 units. The funds are in Marlboro's affordable housing trust fund and have been earmarked for the deal with Trenton.
The affordable housing trust fund includes money that has been paid by developers who built projects in Marlboro, but did not provide affordable housing in their projects. They pay into the trust fund in lieu of building the affordable units.
Gordon said COAH administrators reviewed the agreement between Marlboro and Trenton and had some comments about the amount of money to be paid per unit, which had been increased by the state agency to $25,000 per unit.
Council President Jeff Cantor said the amount to be paid to Trenton by Marlboro will now be $8.3 million ($25,000 x 332 units) instead of the initial $6.6 million ($20,000 x 332 units).
The agreement was approved by Trenton's governing body on June 11, Gordon said.
Trenton officials may used the money to rehabilitate substandard housing in the city or to construct new affordable housing. Affordable housing is defined by COAH as housing that is sold or rented at below market rates to people who have an income that meets regional guidelines established by COAH.
The RCA is the most cost-effective and least intrusive method for Marlboro to satisfy its affordable housing obligation, Hornik said. This RCA was included in Marlboro's third round COAH plan. Hornik said the current estimate on the number of affordable housing units Marlboro is obligated to fill is about 1,600, although he noted that the 332 units that have now been transferred to Trenton will be deducted from that number.
Cantor credited Hornik for working diligently on the agreement with Palmer as legislation that will eliminate RCAs is pending in the state Legislature.
State Assemblyman Joseph Roberts (D-Camden) has sponsored a bill (A-500) that would eliminate RCAs. The bill was released from committee on June 12 and is expected to come up for a vote before the full Assembly in the near future.
Regarding the pending legislation, Hornik said, "For a town like Marlboro which has a large obligation of affordable housing units, I believe the pending bills that eliminate RCAs are difficult legislation for us to support, however, we are doing what we need to do now."
Hornik said Marlboro's agreement with Trenton is legal because the pending legislation which would eliminate RCAs has not been signed into law.
"It's a good step toward satisfying our obligation, but it is just a step," Hornik said.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Jun 18 2008, 8:02 am EDT
Post subject: Re: A-500 passed the State Assembly Today...
Jersey Dad wrote:
Maybe Wayne will volunteer for the dunk tank on Cranbury Day.
In all seriousness, we need all the advocates we can get right now and it won't pay to antagonize anyone, even those who have let us down. Most of the towns that may have been sympathetic were granted continued use of RCAs as part of the new environmentally sensitive "zones". Plus, some people in neighboring communities seem more interested in crushing Cranbury than building quality affordable housing.And so our fate is in the hands of COAH officials, citizen activists, local and regional politicians. God bless Cranbury!
Are you kidding? He hasn't just "let us down," he has stabbed us in the back? He is activly working to try and kill the town. At a certain point if you are getting stabbed to death by someone you stop trying to plead with them to "help you" and recognize that you have to fight for your life.
Jersey Dad
Posted: Tue, Jun 17 2008, 11:22 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: A-500 passed the State Assembly Today...
Maybe Wayne will volunteer for the dunk tank on Cranbury Day.
In all seriousness, we need all the advocates we can get right now and it won't pay to antagonize anyone, even those who have let us down. Most of the towns that may have been sympathetic were granted continued use of RCAs as part of the new environmentally sensitive "zones". Plus, some people in neighboring communities seem more interested in crushing Cranbury than building quality affordable housing.And so our fate is in the hands of COAH officials, citizen activists, local and regional politicians. God bless Cranbury!
edk
Posted: Tue, Jun 17 2008, 10:53 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: A-500 passed the State Assembly Today...
Quote:
On May 19, the Bridgewater authorized $10,000 in legal fees to join an 18-town coalition, led by Clinton Township Mayor Nick Corcodilos, fighting the proposed COAH rules, Naples said. The township has also spent $500 to join the League of Municipalities litigation fighting the proposed regulations.
In May, a collection of 25 officials from Hunterdon, Somerset and Morris counties met in Peapack-Gladstone to determine how best to fight the COAH rules. The political leaders also agreed that filing a group lawsuit was likely their best bet at overturning — or at least delaying — the Council on Affordable Housing guidelines.
The more I read about how Clinton Township and the rest of 18 towns have banded together, the more the strategy makes sense to me. I know that the COAH obligation is different for Cranbury then any other one of these 18 towns but the combined voice and voting block is a powerful message then going at it alone.
What do you think the combined voting base is for the 18 town group?? Probably bigger then our 2K registered voters here in Cranbury. I wonder if they would like to increased there total by 2000 more LOUD Cranbury votes? Would the TC consider this as another option to help, certainly can't hurt us at all.
Guest
Posted: Tue, Jun 17 2008, 7:48 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: A-500 passed the State Assembly Today...
Very true. In the past COAH did exactly that in order to get the laws passed and support from the legislature. Unfortunately in this case, they haven't needed to back down and won't if the senate passes.
I would love to see Wayne march in Cranbury's parade next year, I heard people were upset Bill Baroni and Dick Zimmer marched with our TC. Perhaps we could have signs opposing Wayne the whole way around town. Then again, I don't think he can find his way to Cranbury.
Cranbury Conservative
Posted: Tue, Jun 17 2008, 7:45 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: A-500 passed the State Assembly Today...
During Speaker Roberts Presentation in front of the Assembly yesterday...
Speaker Roberts: "The center piece of this legislation is the elimination of RCAs"
Ok that was bad for us in Cranbury....
Now for the good is good for Cranbury....
However he went on to speak about land which should be removed from the coah obligation, which would be land that does not have sewer or water available.
We need to use that to our advantage
Jersey Dad
Posted: Tue, Jun 17 2008, 7:22 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: A-500 passed the State Assembly Today...
You may be right, but I am holding out hope for Greenstein. We'll see soon enough.
Regarding COAH, my understanding is it is typical for COAH to start with an unreasonable obligation and then work back toward reasonable, with the help of political insiders. We need a miracle this time, and by miracle I mean a glorious event caused by an unseen force.