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[quote="Guest"]The truth is that a lot of Cranbury people focus on the small picture. I am always surprised when I see people who can't name our TC members. There are a lot of people in that scenario. The Trenton Times has paid little attention to the COAH bills and many residents don't even know this legislation passed let alone the impact. Therefore, it does not surprise me that some residents would try to get this through again. The good news is that the two TC members who did not want to pursue continue to focus on COAH and the TC does not work for the minority of residents, but the town overall. Therefore, this petition will likely be used by certain TC individuals, but the smart ones will continue their stance.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>publius</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Jul 3 2008, 8:30 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: PNC purchase discussion going back on the table?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">What was that about the den of iniquity business? <br />Count me in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Jul 2 2008, 10:49 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: PNC purchase discussion going back on the table?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Agree with Frugality. <br /> <br />The timing for this petition is really bad: COAH, recession, housing market crash, Cranbury property tax at record high, etc. <br /> <br />This petition may work if we have the following: no COAH to worried about, booming economy, Cranbury houses selling like hot cakes, Cranbury property tax at the lowest in years, Cranbury residents very happy with the way the town is governed, etc.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Frugality In Cranbury</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Jul 1 2008, 8:47 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: PNC purchase discussion going back on the table?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">FYI, HPAC is <span style="font-weight: bold">NOT</span> the historical society. They are completely unrelated organizations. The historical society has absolutely nothing to do with housing. It runs the Cranbury Museum, History Center, and offers educational programs and events.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Yes, that is true that they are not the same organization - however, we are a small town and the people on HPAC are also on the historical society. <br /> <br />Let me reiterate - If the historical society wants something done with the PNC bank, then they should purchase it themselves. The same goes for the Library - The "Friends of the Cranbury Library" needs to figure a way to fund it themselves (especially since the Library currently pays no rent to the school - plus the Library has a yearly surplus of our taxpayer money stashed away). Don't get me wrong, I love our Library and historical society - but enough is enough on the spending in our town; Especially facing the COAH issues that is going to hit us hard if we are not careful. Just wait until the Legislature comes back into session this fall. The will forget all about us small towns and move forward without a blink of the eye. We need to gear up and make them not to forget us. <br /> <br />The issues concerning PNC bank is off the table and closed for the Cranbury taxpayers. Let us move on as citizens and any of the special interest groups should freely purchase/rent the PNC bank. No need for a petition.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Jul 1 2008, 8:27 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: PNC purchase discussion going back on the table?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">FYI, HPAC is <span style="font-weight: bold">NOT</span> the historical society. They are completely unrelated organizations. The historical society has absolutely nothing to do with housing. It runs the Cranbury Museum, History Center, and offers educational programs and events.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Jul 1 2008, 6:13 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: PNC purchase discussion going back on the table?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">To the poster who asked me what the person asking me to sign said, they said nothing just okay. <br /> <br />The individual doing this is as I understand it Mrs. Swanagan. That is what the person who asked me to sign said so they may have just been putting her name to it. <br /> <br />I am not sure if this historical society or library are behind it. They made no mention to me of a town organization. <br /> <br />In terms of preservation. Anyone who pays attention knows that HPAC is very tough in terms of what people do front, back and side. The PNC building as it stands now will always look the same because HPAC who the TC gave blanket authority will ensure that there is no change. Any permit inside the historic area requires HPAC approval before issuance. So the idea of buying it to preserve is a fear tactic and has no basis in facts. Just read the HPAC meeting notes to see how tough the restrictions are.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Frugality In Cranbury</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Jul 1 2008, 5:33 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: PNC purchase discussion going back on the table?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">If it is indeed the historical society - Then they should purchase the PNC bank themselves. If it's the Library, They should start out by paying rent to the school. NO FREEBIES. Not only that - The cranbury taxpayers have already discussed this at a TC meeting and it was defeated. <br /> <br />Why are we wasting our time on a dead issue? Let's move on. This is not the time for large expenditures - Houses are not even selling in our area. Plus, The NAR is stating that it is taking 10 months on average for a house to sell.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Cranbury Conservative</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Jul 1 2008, 4:25 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: PNC purchase discussion going back on the table?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">If it is indeed the historical society then it would be very helpful if the historical society was out championing the historical value of Cranbury and what a loss it would be if the COAH rules and legislation prevail. <br /> <br />Can someone of authority with the historical society speak to this and let us know if they are behind the petition? Or is it the library folks again? <br /> <br />Please whom ever you are come forward and let us know who you are and why you are pursuing this when we have so much more to worry about.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Historical or Hysterical</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Jul 1 2008, 3:56 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: PNC purchase discussion going back on the table?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I hope that's just rumor about the historic soc promoting this petition because the effort to preserve the future of this town is a far more urgent and pressing issue. And what a waste of our collective time if the TC revisits this at another meeting. <br /> <br />If it is true about the historic soc trying to preserve the PNC, then <br />they should also set aside funds to preserve the other properties on sale for preservation, just like the PNC <br /> <br />15 N Main at $650K needs to be protected because it might be used to start a den of iniquity business <br /> <br />26 N Main at $999K might be turned into a WaWa in the barn <br /> <br />68 N Main at $585K perfect place to start a gambling hall <br /> <br />93 N Main at $1,100K a noisy bar and restaurant could open up here <br /> <br />99 N Main at $999K should be protected because someday drug dealers could buy it because its on a corner and a good place to do business <br /> <br />there are others to protect also on main st, not just PNC. What's your justification?? How much money do you collectively have in the society to preserve all current and future sales on our Main St from unknown uses? <br /> <br />I wish the same effort to petition for the PNC was used instead to protect Cranbury against unfair COAH rules. The historic society should be at the forefront to champion protecting the past and future that is soo threating Cranbury now. <br /> <br />Again, I hope someone misspoke about the Historic soc promoting the petition.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>??</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Jul 1 2008, 3:19 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: PNC purchase discussion going back on the table?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I THINK it's the historical society that is petitioning people.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />There are a few historical homes on Main St. for sale now. Is the town going to buy them all? <br /> <br />What's special about this PNC building??</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Jul 1 2008, 3:06 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: PNC purchase discussion going back on the table?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I THINK it's the historical society that is petitioning people.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Jul 1 2008, 12:25 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: PNC purchase discussion going back on the table?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I wonder if the petitioner even brings up one of your fiscal points above when they are asking a Cranbury resident to sign it????? <br /> <br />I also would like to know who is the driver of this petition? <br /> <br />and why they are doing it.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Jul 1 2008, 10:28 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: PNC purchase discussion going back on the table?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />I was asked last Saturday to sign the petition. The petition is to reopen discussion on the exploration of the purchase. We all know that this is something that if done would go forward without resident input. I really wish people would use this effort at budget discussion time or when real issues come up.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />What did the petitioner say when you told them that?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Jul 1 2008, 10:27 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: PNC purchase discussion going back on the table?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Traveler wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">The TC voted against the PNC Bank purchase in a public meeting. Now they might possibly entertain the re-opening of the discussion...am I missing something here? Does anyone know whose spearheading the petition? To me a vote is a vote...this is not a child's game where rules are made up along the way. Let's learn to employ financial savvy or else Cranbury will no longer be the charming little town we all wanted to settle in in the first place.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I was vocal against pursuing the purchase at the meeting. That said, it should be clarified that the TC did not vote to pursue the purchase or not. They did an unofficial check to see if they might get the required 4/5 majority and when 2 members indicated they were likely to oppose, they stopped the proceeding with no official vote. The fifth member wasn't even officially polled. <br /> <br />So technically there is nothing impeding them from bringing it up again if there are additional facts that would cause the members to reconsider, such as a reduction in price or proof of broad community support. I suspect that is what the petition is trying to demonstrate, though short of a true vote of the electorate I don't buy it.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Cranbury Conservative</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Jul 1 2008, 9:38 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: PNC purchase discussion going back on the table?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Who is sponsoring the petition?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Traveler</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Jul 1 2008, 9:30 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: PNC purchase discussion going back on the table?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">The TC voted against the PNC Bank purchase in a public meeting. Now they might possibly entertain the re-opening of the discussion...am I missing something here? Does anyone know whose spearheading the petition? To me a vote is a vote...this is not a child's game where rules are made up along the way. Let's learn to employ financial savvy or else Cranbury will no longer be the charming little town we all wanted to settle in in the first place.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Jul 1 2008, 8:51 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: PNC purchase discussion going back on the table?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">This is what annoys me. The TC members voted and it did not pass. We now have COAH passed and there is still money going out on the ball field. At what point do residents wake up and realize that we don't have money for personal projects and that we need to make financially sound decisions. Instead of crying over spilled milk, let's focus on finances. <br /> <br />I was asked last Saturday to sign the petition. The petition is to reopen discussion on the exploration of the purchase. We all know that this is something that if done would go forward without resident input. I really wish people would use this effort at budget discussion time or when real issues come up.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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