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[quote="Cranbury Press"]Main Street parking lot debated Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:53 PM EST By Maria Prato-Gaines, Staff Writer CRANBURY — A proposal to remove a Main Street parking space remains unresolved nearly a year after it was first brought to the township’s attention. The request was made in December by dentist Stuart Alexander, who was directed to do so by the Middlesex County Planning Board, which oversees property developments on county roads, as a condition for opening his dental practice at 19 N. Main St. The space in front of Dr. Alexander’s practice on the west side of Main Street — county road Route 535 — is even with a driveway that runs along his building to a nine-space parking lot. Dr. Alexander told the Township Committee on Monday that the parking space created a safety issue. Cars can only make right turns out of the lot, a condition imposed by the county, but the Main Street parking space still obstructs drivers’ view, forcing them to pull into the street to see traffic heading south. He also said the spot created a potential risk to pedestrians and bikers on the sidewalk, because cars turning into the driveway might not see them. ”The issue is an issue of safety — it’s pretty clear cut,” Dr. Alexander said. Committeeman Richard Stannard said conditions at Dr. Alexander’s practice were similar to other driveways on Main Street and that removing a parking space could set a precedent for this type of request. That would exacerbate downtown parking issues, he said. ”We have the potential to lose more spaces,” Mr. Stannard said. “It’s no worse at the doctor’s than any other.” Dietrich Wahlers, a resident in the audience, disagreed. ”I’d like to see data on that,” he said. “At four o’ clock I drive through town and one-third of the spaces are filled. There is no problem.” Frank Marlowe, another resident, said removing the space could affect neighboring businesses, including The Blue Rooster Bakery and Cafe and A.S. Cole Son and Co. Funeral Home. ”There’s quite a cost to others,” he said. “The town was built before there were cars. The compromises are endless. Most (driveways) would not meet modern standards.” Committeemen Wayne Wittman and Tom Panconi said the space posed a safety hazard that needed to be addressed. They said that the driveway is less than a block from Cranbury School and the municipal building making an incident more likely and that the parking space was closer to the driveway when compared to other Main Street properties. They proposed limiting parking hours for the space. Mayor David Stout recommended that township officials speak to the county’s traffic and planning consultants to get a better understanding of their concerns. http://www.packetonline.com/articles/2008/11/13/cranbury_press/news/doc491c900dc5c7c601548749.txt[/quote]
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Guest
Posted: Tue, Nov 18 2008, 7:11 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Main Street parking lot debated
good one!
Guest
Posted: Tue, Nov 18 2008, 4:44 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Main Street parking lot debated
I've seen feral cats sleeping in parking spaces. This could be part of the problem...
Guest
Posted: Sun, Nov 16 2008, 9:51 am EST
Post subject: Re: Main Street parking lot debated
How are our businesses supposed to get deliveries?
Maybe we restrict parking on Main Street during certain hours for deliveries?
Maybe we get rid of some parking spots and designate loading zones?
Maybe we just deal with a double parked truck for 15 minutes and keep our downtown open.
I don't see that much of a problem with the trucks double parking for a short period of time.
Guest
Posted: Sat, Nov 15 2008, 9:14 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Main Street parking lot debated
Guest wrote:
There was never a problem in that area until recently.
Worse than no parking is all of the trucks double parking on Main St. during the day. Is that allowed? It really clogs up Main Street.
Guest
Posted: Sat, Nov 15 2008, 8:35 pm EST
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We have an enginneer who we pay to see that these kind of problems don't happen.
Speak to anyone who has worked with our engineer - she has the reputation of causing problems (and then solving them with her engrg firm at the homeowner's expense!)
Guest
Posted: Sat, Nov 15 2008, 6:42 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Main Street parking lot debated
Hightstown, Bordentown and Allentown all are built the same way as Cranbury with the same driveways and parking as we do. But they dont seem that have the same sillyness as we do, I think we sould be adding more common sense and humanity in our tap water instead of clorine alone. I keep telling my wife it must be in the water around here.
Guest
Posted: Sat, Nov 15 2008, 6:29 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Main Street parking lot debated
The fact is that if you an ask an expert they will always give you the cautious view. If the driveway was a concern from the beginning than the doctor should not have proceeded. As he did proceed than he is obligated. What is the big deal about only having a right turn? Turn right and be done with it.
Guest
Posted: Sat, Nov 15 2008, 1:49 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Main Street parking lot debated
It seems that the planning board has been asleep at the wheel. Everything disscused here is a result of their actions. We have an enginneer who we pay to see that these kind of problems don't happen. How could they approve a driveway if it is unsafe. How could they approve a bakery with no parking. A business will say or do anything it can to get up and running. There was never a problem in that area until recently.
Guest
Posted: Sat, Nov 15 2008, 1:10 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Main Street parking lot debated
I don't want either. I don't want PNC bought and I don't want to get rid of the spot. Mr. Stannard did a complete review at the TC meeting and found 6 other areas in town who had similar issues. My only concern is that if the doctor has a problem that he caused he should find a fix. If I grade my property to make a garden and it floods the street resulting in my neighbor's basement flooding, should the town be the one to fix the issue or should I modify my garden? I should fix the garden because I caused the problem. Same issue here.
Guest
Posted: Sat, Nov 15 2008, 12:23 pm EST
Post subject: Re: Main Street parking lot debated
WOW All this over a parking spot! Not a parking lot, a spot.Seems like someone wants to take a mole hill and turn it into a mountain. If its dangerous get rid of it. Or do you really just want the town to buy the bank and turn it into something else...
Guest
Posted: Sat, Nov 15 2008, 11:44 am EST
Post subject: Re: Main Street parking lot debated
Why is it that a parking problem and PNC are always linked?
Guest
Posted: Sat, Nov 15 2008, 11:39 am EST
Post subject: Re: Main Street parking lot debated
Guest wrote:
We have to be careful here.. If Cranbury gets a reputation as having a "parking problem" it could have trouble attracting a new business? Maybe that is why PNC is still unsold. The village is the lifeblood of the town and needs to stay user friendly.
There is zero chance the reason PNC hasn't sold is due to any perception of a parking problem in Cranbury.
Guest
Posted: Sat, Nov 15 2008, 11:32 am EST
Post subject: Re: Main Street parking lot debated
Guest wrote:
Thats the nicest driveway in town. Does anyone know who did the work?
I agree...It looks perfect for Cranbury.
Guest
Posted: Sat, Nov 15 2008, 11:28 am EST
Post subject: Re: Main Street parking lot debated
I just came back from my am coffee and looked at the spot.
There was plenty of available parking.
I'm not sure that this particular case sets a precedent.
It seems that the bar here was set pretty high.
1. It was at the request of the county.
2. The dentist already has tried to remedy the situation.
3.Its near a high traffic area between the school and the Rooster.
4.The spot is borders the driveway.
There can be no doubt that removing it creates a safer area.
Where else would this come into play?Any new business would have to go a prove a problem. I think that was already done here.
The drive way is gated so at least on the weekends it does not seem like a problem. Maybe only banning parking during the week is a compromise.
We have to be careful here.. If Cranbury gets a reputation as having a "parking problem" it could have trouble attracting a new business? Maybe that is why PNC is still unsold. The village is the lifeblood of the town and needs to stay user friendly.
Having said that I don't think this situation is going to alter the existing "parking problem".
Guest
Posted: Sat, Nov 15 2008, 10:10 am EST
Post subject: Re: Main Street parking lot debated
Let's be clear. I am not advocating a garage, a new lot or anything else. I am advocating keeping existing spaces. I do see these issues and yes, if people want to park on the other side of the lake then there is ample parking. Yesterday, when it was raining I drove to N. Main and had a hard time finding a spot to park on the street. I've seen that a number of times in the 30 years I have been here. Now, I am not saying parking is a big issue. Just that we should keep the spots we currently have today. The precedent set by removing one spot is an issue.
Guest
Posted: Sat, Nov 15 2008, 9:25 am EST
Post subject: Re: Main Street parking lot debated
Guest wrote:
I live in town as well and it depends on when you go. If you go in the summer at 5 or 6 there is an issue. If you go on weekdays at 12-2 there is an issue. If you go at other times there is no issue.
The problem is that when you remove a spot for one person, then people in similar circumstances will want a spot removed. Now you have 5-6 less spots in town.
I don't see a parking probelm even at those peek times you suggest. Heck, I don't see a problem even during our key parades or Cranbury Day, and if you don't have a problem then you never will.
It probably comes down to your definition of "problem" To me I usually find a spot within a few parking spaces of the exact place I want to go, which makes Cranbury the easiest place to park I know of anywhere, period. But on special occasions I may have to park on a side street or walk a couple blocks. What a crisis. Big deal. Join the rest of the world. That is not a problem. Let's say in the extreme case I had to park the equivilent of the distance between the lake and Cranbury Pizza. I never have, but let's just pretend. Is that a "problem"? Not by most towns standards. Yet even on Cranbury Day I don't have to park that far away to get within the area of the event.