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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Jersey Jay</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri, Apr 3 2009, 11:35 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Christie blasts tuition plan for illegals</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">It is disgraceful that any of our elected officials even entertain the thought of legitimizing those in the country illegally. They should resign from office or in the least, be voted out of office. One only has to look to California, a state that has tolerated these violators. Hospitals ruined, prison cost skyrocketing, education systems damaged, all because of illegals. Also fueling the debate are many religious groups who see large increases in their flock that will provide them with more political clout. However, until our southern border is secured, the problem cannot be addressed. Who knows how many terrorist, criminals, infected individuals are already amongst us?? Some for sure. To remain silent will only make the situation worse. Demand our elected officials live up to thier oath of office and adhere to the Constitution.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri, Apr 3 2009, 1:06 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Christie blasts tuition plan for illegals</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I went to a college in NJ and most of my TA's and even a large part of the student body was foreign. All my TA's had accents, english was 3nd or at best 2rd language for most - no wonder american students are having a hard time in school (luckily I spoke 2 languages myself but english was my best and my folks were legal immigrants who payed taxes for 20yrs for my own right to goto a NJ school) So english is not a requirement to teach in NJ, and the student body speak in there own native tongue when they talk to the asian/indian TAs and that's progress in Corzines administration. Its despicable how the NJ taxpayer is being abused to support illegal aliens never mind the whole COAH thing.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Apr 2 2009, 10:59 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Christie blasts tuition plan for illegals</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Congratulations, you have made sense of corzine's plan!!! <img src="images/smiles/icon_surprised.gif" alt="Surprised" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Apr 2 2009, 10:24 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Christie blasts tuition plan for illegals</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">So if you're legally a resident of Pennsylvania, you pay out-of-state tuition, but if you're an illegal resident from Guam you pay in-state tuition. <br /> <br />What if you swim across the Delaware River in the middle of the night? Does that qualify you for in-state tuition?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Apr 2 2009, 5:05 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Christie blasts tuition plan for illegals</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">As someone who lived in Sweden I can assure you that the U.S. Is unique. All developed countries have immigration issues. However, the U.S. is the only one that seems to feel obligated to help and support the illegals. Sweden which is a very socialist country had huge immigration issues with people entering because of the social system. There was no concern whatsoever among the government that they had entitlements. It was made clear that there was no support for them. <br /> <br />The EU governening has the Schengen agreement which has laws incorporated governing access to health care. According to the agreement there is no support for illegals or even legal immigants working there. Legal immigrants from countries who did not sign the treaty or not agreed to (Brazil for example) hav to show valid health care in order to enter the country.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Apr 2 2009, 2:52 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Christie blasts tuition plan for illegals</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">The fact that this administration is even contemplating this is disgusting. I find lots of things inconvenient---red lights and stop signs, paying taxes, etc. Let's get rid of ALL laws and have complete anarchy.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Apr 2 2009, 1:03 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Christie blasts tuition plan for illegals</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>North Jersey wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">"Providing drivers' licenses to illegal immigrants in these dangerous times is a clear national security risk," Christie said, referring to the panel. "And Governor Corzine's support of in-state tuition for illegal immigrants when his budget slashes property tax relief and increases taxes on so many New Jerseyans is astonishing."</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />So remind me; What are the benefits of being an American? Oh, that's right; pay taxes to support the undocumented illegal immigrants with food, health care, education, housing and so forth and so on . . . <br /> <br />Why would someone want to become a legal US citizen? They get all the benefits without paying into the system.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>North Jersey</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Apr 2 2009, 12:52 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Christie blasts tuition plan for illegals</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Christie blasts tuition plan for illegals <br />Thursday, April 2, 2009 <br />Last updated: Thursday April 2, 2009, 8:03 AM <br />BY ELIZABETH LLORENTE <br /> <br /> Former U.S. Attorney Christopher Christie, a leading Republican gubernatorial candidate, called "astonishing" Governor Corzine's vow this week to help pave the way for undocumented immigrants to attend state public colleges at in-state tuition rates. <br /> <br />In a brief written statement, Christie also criticized a special advisory panel established by Corzine in 2007 to examine ways in which New Jersey can integrate both its legal and illegal immigrants into the social, civic and economic sectors of the state. <br /> <br />The Blue Ribbon Advisory Panel on Immigrant Policy on Monday released a report that, among other things, spoke of the need to help New Jersey's estimated 500,000 undocumented immigrants by allowing them to pay in-state tuition, and making sure that contractors do not cheat them out of the pay they've earned. <br /> <br />"The recommendations of Governor Corzine's panel disregard the need for security, fairness and the right priorities in this tough economic environment," Christie said. <br /> <br />The panel also expressed support for driving privileges for illegal immigrants, who are prohibited in New Jersey from obtaining a driver's license. <br /> <br />But the panel said that the state should first consult with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, citing concerns among many that giving people here illegally a license, or special driver's card, might threaten national security by allowing terrorists to use the official documents to board planes and open bank accounts. <br /> <br />Corzine said Monday that even though he agreed with most of the recommendations in the report, he did not support a state move to grant driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. <br /> <br />"Providing drivers' licenses to illegal immigrants in these dangerous times is a clear national security risk," Christie said, referring to the panel. "And Governor Corzine's support of in-state tuition for illegal immigrants when his budget slashes property tax relief and increases taxes on so many New Jerseyans is astonishing." <br /> <br />Corzine's staff declined to respond to Christie's comments, saying the governor made his positions on various issues clear on Monday. <br /> <br />Last year, proponents of tough immigration enforcement criticized Christie who, in a speech in Dover before a Latino organization, said that being in the U.S. illegally was a civil offense, not a crime. <br /> <br />After critics said the statement made Christie appear to be soft on illegal immigration, his spokesman said Christie had simply answered a narrowly worded question and had not meant to defend entering the country illegally. <br /> <br />Former Bogota mayor Steve Lonegan, another leading Republican gubernatorial candidate, did not respond to several calls requesting a comment on the panel's recommendations and Corzine's statements. <br /> <br />Meanwhile, Mexican government officials praised the panel's recommendations and Corzine's support of most of them. <br /> <br />Approximately 200,000 Mexicans live in New Jersey, according to officials of the Mexican consulate in Manhattan. The community includes a large number of undocumented immigrants, according to community leaders. <br /> <br />Ruben Beltran, Mexico's consul general in Manhattan, said in-state tuition rates would not only help undocumented students "but the entire state, which will have better educated folks." <br /> <br />He lamented Corzine's refusal to support driving privileges for illegal immigrants. <br /> <br />"A license should be viewed as simply a permit to drive," Beltran said. <br /> <br />"It does not give status, it is not a visa, it is not a passport. It just ensures that a person is driving within the rules and regulations of a state." <br /> <br />Former U.S. Attorney Christopher Christie, a leading Republican gubernatorial candidate, called "astonishing" Governor Corzine's vow this week to help pave the way for undocumented immigrants to attend state public colleges at in-state tuition rates. <br /> <br /> <br />DAVID BERGELAND/STAFF PHOTOGRAPHER <br />Buy this photoChristopher Christie also criticized a panel's recommendation to give illegal immigrants driving privileges. In a brief written statement, Christie also criticized a special advisory panel established by Corzine in 2007 to examine ways in which New Jersey can integrate both its legal and illegal immigrants into the social, civic and economic sectors of the state. <br /> <br />The Blue Ribbon Advisory Panel on Immigrant Policy on Monday released a report that, among other things, spoke of the need to help New Jersey's estimated 500,000 undocumented immigrants by allowing them to pay in-state tuition, and making sure that contractors do not cheat them out of the pay they've earned. <br /> <br />"The recommendations of Governor Corzine's panel disregard the need for security, fairness and the right priorities in this tough economic environment," Christie said. <br /> <br />The panel also expressed support for driving privileges for illegal immigrants, who are prohibited in New Jersey from obtaining a driver's license. <br /> <br />But the panel said that the state should first consult with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, citing concerns among many that giving people here illegally a license, or special driver's card, might threaten national security by allowing terrorists to use the official documents to board planes and open bank accounts. <br /> <br />Corzine said Monday that even though he agreed with most of the recommendations in the report, he did not support a state move to grant driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. <br /> <br />"Providing drivers' licenses to illegal immigrants in these dangerous times is a clear national security risk," Christie said, referring to the panel. "And Governor Corzine's support of in-state tuition for illegal immigrants when his budget slashes property tax relief and increases taxes on so many New Jerseyans is astonishing." <br /> <br />Corzine's staff declined to respond to Christie's comments, saying the governor made his positions on various issues clear on Monday. <br /> <br />Last year, proponents of tough immigration enforcement criticized Christie who, in a speech in Dover before a Latino organization, said that being in the U.S. illegally was a civil offense, not a crime. <br /> <br />After critics said the statement made Christie appear to be soft on illegal immigration, his spokesman said Christie had simply answered a narrowly worded question and had not meant to defend entering the country illegally. <br /> <br />Former Bogota mayor Steve Lonegan, another leading Republican gubernatorial candidate, did not respond to several calls requesting a comment on the panel's recommendations and Corzine's statements. <br /> <br />Meanwhile, Mexican government officials praised the panel's recommendations and Corzine's support of most of them. <br /> <br />Approximately 200,000 Mexicans live in New Jersey, according to officials of the Mexican consulate in Manhattan. The community includes a large number of undocumented immigrants, according to community leaders. <br /> <br />Ruben Beltran, Mexico's consul general in Manhattan, said in-state tuition rates would not only help undocumented students "but the entire state, which will have better educated folks." <br /> <br />He lamented Corzine's refusal to support driving privileges for illegal immigrants. <br /> <br />"A license should be viewed as simply a permit to drive," Beltran said. <br /> <br />"It does not give status, it is not a visa, it is not a passport. It just ensures that a person is driving within the rules and regulations of a state." <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.northjersey.com/news/njpolitics/42308352.html" target="_blank">http://www.northjersey.com/news/njpolitics/42308352.html</a></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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