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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Jay Taylor</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Sep 28 2011, 7:13 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Township Committe meeting time change for September 26, 2011</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Please don't take this as being rude as that is not my intent. I am happy to reply to any emails or have conversations on why I voted the way I did on this or any other issue which is why I posted my email address. <br /> <br />However, I don't want to make any statement that may cause a thread to continue on whether positive or negative when the issue concerns a homeowner, business or an individual out of respect for those individuals. I posted the above simply so people could see the facts on what the project entails and the cost. <br /> <br />I will say that I did speak with the Twp. Engineer today and hopefully the repairs will be made by Halloween.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Sep 28 2011, 10:37 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Township Committe meeting time change for September 26, 2011</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Thansk Jay. Why did you vote against it?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Jay Taylor</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Sep 28 2011, 7:42 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Township Committe meeting time change for September 26, 2011</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I want to add some facts on what the TC agreed to do and not do on Monday in terms of the actual repair. As always, I am available at <a href="mailto:jtaylor@cranbury-nj.com">jtaylor@cranbury-nj.com</a> if you have any questions or concerns. <br /> <br />From the actual analysis by Van Cleef. <br /> <br />Cost- 9,500.00 work to be done by JML (lowest cost) <br /> <br />Work to be performed: <br /> <br />1) Remove slate from hole and save for later use <br /> <br />2) Remove and dispose of concrete driveway apron which has been undermined. <br /> <br />3) Fill the area under the driveway apron and sidewalk area with clean fill. <br /> <br />4) Install additional compacted fill on a one on three slope in the driveway area to stabilize the new fill under the reinstalled sidewalk. <br /> <br />5) Install a non-woven fabric on the entire face of the slope placed in the driveway. <br /> <br />6) Install ri-rap on the slope face over the fabric to prevent erosion. <br /> <br />7) Install the recovered slate sidewalk. If there is not sufficient slate recovered, or if it is not in condition to place as sidewalk, use asphalt to bridge gap. <br /> <br />8) Install an asphalt driveway apron. <br /> <br />9) Topsoil and seed as necessary.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 27 2011, 3:07 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Township Committe meeting time change for September 26, 2011</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">The driveway apron is going to be repaired. That was option one that the TC agreed on last night. If you heard otherwise you are wrong.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />You do know what a driveway apron is I hope? <br /> <br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Driveway_apron_and_sloped_curb_to_street.jpg" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Driveway_apron_and_sloped_curb_to_street.jpg</a> <br /> <br />Its the part that connects the street to the driveway.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 27 2011, 1:00 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Township Committe meeting time change for September 26, 2011</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">The driveway apron is going to be repaired. That was option one that the TC agreed on last night. If you heard otherwise you are wrong.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 27 2011, 12:24 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Township Committe meeting time change for September 26, 2011</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Ding 1 left out the legal opinion either because he wasn't paying attention or did not like the conclusion. <br /> <br />Ding 2 was unhappy because the township was repairing the driveway apron. This is just plain wrong. The township is NOT repairing the driveway apron. <br /> <br />Ding 3 presents no facts merely has a longwinded opinion about the homeowner. <br /> <br />I actually don't give a hoot in hell who repairs this sidewalk. My complaint is postes who either don't know the facts or conveniently forget facts in order to push an agenda. <br /> <br />I would point out after the three ding-a-lings, two responsible people posted correcting the record. I thank them for that. Interestingly, they did not offer opinions on the issue.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 27 2011, 12:05 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Township Committe meeting time change for September 26, 2011</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">When I speak to my neighbors about township issues, I am often amazed at the level of knowledge and understanding these folks present. <br /> <br />When I read this message board I am also amazed, at the low level of understanding of the most basic issues, of the inability to grasp simple facts, and the ability to disseminate misinformation at the speed of light. <br /> <br />A previous poster insultingly encouraged other posters to attend township meetings to get there facts straight. It must please him no end that after attending township meetings, these posters manage to scramble the facts when reporting them on the board. <br /> <br />Let us review. Ding-a-ling 1 reports on the township meeting giving his opinion of the proceding without any acknowledgement of the legal opinion. <br /> <br />A second poster points out the legal opinion. <br /> <br />Ding-a-ling 2 chimes in that he was also in attendance, and proceeds to get most of the facts wrong and then issues his opinion. <br /> <br />Quickly now we hear from Ding-a-ling three, who it appears was not at the meeting, takes the scrambled facts and incorrect assumptions of 1 and 2 and spews forth an opinion piece. <br /> <br />Finally 2 posters come into the discussion and try to correct the misinformation fest. <br /> <br />I honestly don't know what is going on here. Are some posters to this board unable to understand basic issues or are their conclusions so set in stone they simply don't hear the facts that are in opposition to there beliefs. <br /> <br />What I do know is there are many extremely intelligent and knowledgeable people in this town. It appears that very few of them post here.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Let us review your post more succinctly: anyone who you don't agree with is a ding-a-ling. <br /> <br />I just read all the posts and I'm not sure any of them are "wrong" or "scrambling the facts." They are all pretty consistent. The Township got an legal "opinion" from an attorney, went into closed session and when they came out they voted to proceed with the project. No one has contradicted that what they elected to do was more than what was minimally required of them. And obviously what was discussed in closed session was not incontrovertible facts or you would have had a unanimous vote after that. So it comes down to some people not agreeing that the Township should have done more than they were minimally required to, which is really just replacing the dislodged bluestone, and some people believing they should have left the rest of the fill, etc. to the homeowner to do. <br /> <br />If you're going to criticize people you might have more credibility if you didn't just resort to anonymously throwing useless insults.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 27 2011, 11:38 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Township Committe meeting time change for September 26, 2011</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Let's be clear. I think a large part of the issue is that the TC rushed through a solution. The town has a legal obligation to repair the sidewalk a physical structure. However, they went beyond by also bringing in the fill to repair under the sidewalk which is needed to repair the driveway. <br /> <br />So the TC is doing more than obligated, which is causing the confusion. In posts above.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 27 2011, 10:57 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Township Committe meeting time change for September 26, 2011</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">When I speak to my neighbors about township issues, I am often amazed at the level of knowledge and understanding these folks present. <br /> <br />When I read this message board I am also amazed, at the low level of understanding of the most basic issues, of the inability to grasp simple facts, and the ability to disseminate misinformation at the speed of light. <br /> <br />A previous poster insultingly encouraged other posters to attend township meetings to get there facts straight. It must please him no end that after attending township meetings, these posters manage to scramble the facts when reporting them on the board. <br /> <br />Let us review. Ding-a-ling 1 reports on the township meeting giving his opinion of the proceding without any acknowledgement of the legal opinion. <br /> <br />A second poster points out the legal opinion. <br /> <br />Ding-a-ling 2 chimes in that he was also in attendance, and proceeds to get most of the facts wrong and then issues his opinion. <br /> <br />Quickly now we hear from Ding-a-ling three, who it appears was not at the meeting, takes the scrambled facts and incorrect assumptions of 1 and 2 and spews forth an opinion piece. <br /> <br />Finally 2 posters come into the discussion and try to correct the misinformation fest. <br /> <br />I honestly don't know what is going on here. Are some posters to this board unable to understand basic issues or are their conclusions so set in stone they simply don't hear the facts that are in opposition to there beliefs. <br /> <br />What I do know is there are many extremely intelligent and knowledgeable people in this town. It appears that very few of them post here.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 27 2011, 10:01 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Township Committe meeting time change for September 26, 2011</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I spoke with mr. Taylor after the meeting. The issue is the town is responsible for the sidewalk. However, his issue is that the driveway has to be done and we're bringing in fill to support the sidewalk. The same fill and construction would have to be done to repair the driveway. He felt that the homeowner should make all those repairs and that we could have then had public works install the bluestone for the homeowner and still met the legal obligation without costing the town any money. <br /> <br />However, my comment now from the meeting last night it seemed the TC wanted the project done fast and to do that they have to do more work. they said at the meeting they will need to fill in most of the hole to do the sidewalk the way it is proposed.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 27 2011, 9:42 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Township Committe meeting time change for September 26, 2011</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I'm with Mr. Taylor on this one. The law says the homeowner is responsible for the repair and upkeep of the sidewalks except when the damage is caused by an act of god or something beyond their control. Even then, if the Township had wanted to argue the point they could have asserted that the damage was caused due to improper upkeep of the underlying support for the sidewalk which is in the homeowners control. That ground has eroded substantially over years and should have long ago had a retaining wall installed at the homeowners expense. The flood isn’t the root cause of the collapse, only the tipping point. But under no circumstances does the law require the Township to repair the driveway beyond the portion that crosses the public sidewalk. <br /> <br />As I understand it this homeowner also refused to purchase flood insurance despite being in an obvious flood zone. And she has been hostile in expecting the Township to do everything for her from day one. Read her comments after the flood in the Cranbury Press. The Township should have played chicken with her and even considered suing her to do whatever fill and work was necessary for them to do their required work on the sidewalk. And they should go to pains to not repair the driveway beyond the point of the sidewalk. We could have lived with the status quo, perhaps cleaned up a bit, for a long time. <br /> <br />I can’t see how anyone except the homeowner wins the way it went down. Almost no one will appreciate the TC’s vote, not even the hostile homeowner who will still blame them for taking this long. Taxpayers lose. And we’re setting up a terrible precedent for future damage. And inevitably some future TC will decide not to do the same or realize that they can’t sustain this precedent and take contrary action in the future setting the Township up for another lawsuit. <br /> <br />I appreciate the TC members are often in no-win situations so I don’t fault them for having to make decisions with which some people, including myself, won’t agree.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br /> <br />I think you have some of your facts wrong. I spoke with a committee member this morning and they said the town was fixing the sidewalk and the driveway apron which is the sidewalk part of the driveway. The town however is not fixing the driveway or the other large hole on the property. He said they were doing what the towns lawyer told them they were legally responsible for and nothing more. He went on to say the home owner still had a lot of work left to do if they wanted the driveway to connect with the apron.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 27 2011, 8:38 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Township Committe meeting time change for September 26, 2011</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I'm with Mr. Taylor on this one. The law says the homeowner is responsible for the repair and upkeep of the sidewalks except when the damage is caused by an act of god or something beyond their control. Even then, if the Township had wanted to argue the point they could have asserted that the damage was caused due to improper upkeep of the underlying support for the sidewalk which is in the homeowners control. That ground has eroded substantially over years and should have long ago had a retaining wall installed at the homeowners expense. The flood isn’t the root cause of the collapse, only the tipping point. But under no circumstances does the law require the Township to repair the driveway beyond the portion that crosses the public sidewalk. <br /> <br />As I understand it this homeowner also refused to purchase flood insurance despite being in an obvious flood zone. And she has been hostile in expecting the Township to do everything for her from day one. Read her comments after the flood in the Cranbury Press. The Township should have played chicken with her and even considered suing her to do whatever fill and work was necessary for them to do their required work on the sidewalk. And they should go to pains to not repair the driveway beyond the point of the sidewalk. We could have lived with the status quo, perhaps cleaned up a bit, for a long time. <br /> <br />I can’t see how anyone except the homeowner wins the way it went down. Almost no one will appreciate the TC’s vote, not even the hostile homeowner who will still blame them for taking this long. Taxpayers lose. And we’re setting up a terrible precedent for future damage. And inevitably some future TC will decide not to do the same or realize that they can’t sustain this precedent and take contrary action in the future setting the Township up for another lawsuit. <br /> <br />I appreciate the TC members are often in no-win situations so I don’t fault them for having to make decisions with which some people, including myself, won’t agree.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 27 2011, 8:15 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Township Committe meeting time change for September 26, 2011</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I was there too. The issue I had is that the TC rushed to do the whole project instead of just replacing the stones on the sidewalk. What I mean is that they are doing the driveway apron, bringing in fill to fill the hole and doing major work. That was all based on the assumption that the homeowner may choose not to have a driveway. One member even questioned why we were going through this expense when it was clear the homeowners needed to do the filling of the hole to fix their driveway and then the town could come in and lay the stone. <br /> <br />When spending 9k why not try to share the cost with the homeowner if the town really wants to do more than just putting the stones back? <br /> <br />Plus the fact that they are doing the driveway apron is a concern for me.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 27 2011, 7:47 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Township Committe meeting time change for September 26, 2011</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I went last night. There was actually less discussion than on the tree though this will cost more. No one from the public even questioned the work including myself. The TC at first talked arond the cost. Then when one and i forget who stated the cost would be between 9k and 20k to fix the sidewalk. They then went into closed session and when they came out voted 4-1, Mssrs. Cody, Cook, Johnson and Mulligan voted yes. Mr. Taylor voted no. <br /> <br />IMO, Mr. Taylor was the only one seriously questioning the cost and issues on why the town should do this. Mr. Mulligan said he had a cost saving idea and proposed the closed session. Mr. Cody and Mr. Cook from the start appeared to want this done by the town.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I attended the last meeting and this one. At the last meeting the lawyer for Cranbury said the town was not responsible for the tree and it seemed the discussion and final vote was about paying for something the town was not responsible for. In that case the vote was 3-2 with Cody, Cook and Taylor all voting to pay for the tree the town was not responsible for and Johnson and Mulligan voting against it. <br /> <br />Last night the town had a new lawyer I had never seen before. After a some questions about who was responsible for the side walk which was damaged during the hurricane flood last month in front of the white house next to the lake. The lawyer said the town was responsible for the sidewalk and the surrounding repairs to make the side walk usable again. <br /> <br />The town council then asked us all to leave the room so they could discuss the matter privately. Then after about 20 minutes they let us back in and voted to fix the sidewalk. The vote for this was Cody, Cook, Johnson and Mulligan voting yes to fix the sidewalk and Taylor voting no.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Sep 27 2011, 6:26 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Township Committe meeting time change for September 26, 2011</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I went last night. There was actually less discussion than on the tree though this will cost more. No one from the public even questioned the work including myself. The TC at first talked arond the cost. Then when one and i forget who stated the cost would be between 9k and 20k to fix the sidewalk. They then went into closed session and when they came out voted 4-1, Mssrs. Cody, Cook, Johnson and Mulligan voted yes. Mr. Taylor voted no. <br /> <br />IMO, Mr. Taylor was the only one seriously questioning the cost and issues on why the town should do this. Mr. Mulligan said he had a cost saving idea and proposed the closed session. Mr. Cody and Mr. Cook from the start appeared to want this done by the town.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Sep 22 2011, 5:24 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Township Committe meeting time change for September 26, 2011</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Why is the TC discussing 1 N main?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br /> <br />This is a good question especially with the recent history with the tree.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />You must be the same guy who has not read any of the conversations on the tree thread. Since you apparently cannot absorb written information, you are exactly the type of person who should go to a township meeting. That way someone can explain this to you.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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