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Posted: Fri, Jan 8 2010, 7:57 am EST
Post subject: Re: The January 4, 2010 Township Committee Reorganization Meeting
This thread is or should be dead. However, I wanted to highlight a quote from today's Cranbury Press which I think we all need to consider and am thankful Jay Taylor has this sight and strength as a new TC member to make a stand on the record. Regardless of party we should consider this to be the closing remark. I hope the Republicans respect this position for Mayor Stout and that those saying Jay's a teabagger because of party see he's considered 2 Democrats and one Republican and voted for a Democrat based on town interest.
”The mayoral role should go to a veteran committee member of whom we are fortunate to have three qualified individuals — Mr. Stannard, Mr. Stout and Mr. Cody,” Mr. Taylor said. “Mayor Stout being both a veteran committee member and a past mayor is qualified to hold the position. Therefore, it was important for our town that I join with Win in a bipartisan show of support for Mr. Stout.”
http://www.centraljersey.com/articles/2010/01/08/cranbury_press/news/doc4b4668881fa57080407899.txt
CranburySauce
Posted: Thu, Jan 7 2010, 12:12 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The January 4, 2010 Township Committee Reorganization Meeting
Perhaps this thread is dead, but I'm curious: How come nobody's talking about the most significant decision taken by the TC on Monday night?
http://cranburysauce.wordpress.com/2010/01/07/with-planned-beach-cranbury-will-become-middlesex-countys-riviera/
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jan 7 2010, 10:23 am EST
Post subject: Re: The January 4, 2010 Township Committee Reorganization Meeting
Give it up this thread is dead.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jan 7 2010, 7:59 am EST
Post subject: Re: The January 4, 2010 Township Committee Reorganization Meeting
Guest wrote:
I sort of agree with this person. I have lived here for a long time and don’t think the republicans on the council or and who ran for council are mainstream. They are not like Whitman or Kean . I don’t feel comfortable with them running Cranbury in the majority. I think they are like the old John Birch types.
I also think they are creating this whole fuss about nothing just to belittle the democratic majority. That’s what I think
Well, everyone’s entitled to an opinion… The difference is you’re seems to be in spite of facts and at least some of the others here are rooted in facts.
Other posters here have criticized Mr. Stout, Mr. Stannard and Mr. Cook on the basis of their specific actions on the Township Committee. These actions are a matter of record. By comparison, you are alleging based apparently simply on your personal instinct that Mr. Cody and Mr. Thomas hold certain worldviews you disagree with that are not even in evidence. What are you basing this on since it doesn’t appear to be based on anything they said or did during their campaigns or their actions in office so far?
And the notion the posts here are all part of some campaign to “belittle” the current Democrats on the Committee, that’s just silly. Some of the posters who have raised criticism are Democrats and some even voted for Mr. Cook. And numerous people here have voiced their continued support for Mr. Cook, even has they expressed disappointed that he didn’t act consistently with a campaign statement. Remember, this exact issue of Mr. Stout’s history of packing board positions based on party affiliation was raised during the campaign. So if this is all an elaborate effort to belittle people, it was setup a long time before the campaign even started as it’s been discussed here for at least two years.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jan 7 2010, 12:45 am EST
Post subject: Re: The January 4, 2010 Township Committee Reorganization Meeting
Guest wrote:
cranbury liberal wrote:
Wow, you are so off-topic. The politics you are mentioned, regardless of what side you are on, have, or should have, nothing to do with Cranbury Township. I could care less whether you voted for Obama or McCain when it comes to the issues that affect Cranbury. If you honestly believe whether someone's position on te national Stimulus Bill or health care reform should be a factor in who you vote for for Township Committee, let alone be used as an excuse for why the Township Committee should shut-out any opposing views you are part of the problem.
Actually I think that guy hit the nail on the head. Many of the posters were anonymously attaching Cook because he was siding with a democratic majority - citing that as "politics as usual" and equating that as bad government. That's what republicans do these days.
I sort of agree with this person. I have lived here for a long time and don’t think the republicans on the council or and who ran for council are mainstream. They are not like Whitman or Kean . I don’t feel comfortable with them running Cranbury in the majority. I think they are like the old John Birch types.
I also think they are creating this whole fuss about nothing just to belittle the democratic majority. That’s what I think
karnac
Posted: Wed, Jan 6 2010, 11:08 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The January 4, 2010 Township Committee Reorganization Meeting
Is it...
1. Kevin Costner
2. PNC's Real Estate Agent
3. Everyone who ever served on the TC
Guest
Posted: Wed, Jan 6 2010, 10:55 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The January 4, 2010 Township Committee Reorganization Meeting
Guest wrote:
This thread is all over the place. Let Dave and Jay vote on some substantive issues before we pass judgement. If you just can't stop yourself from posting start a new thread. Call it, "David Stout is a minion of Satan", and have yourself a field day.
It is interesting what a polarizing figure Stout is. While Stave was Mayor there was bickering here to be sure. But somehow it was worse previously when Stout was Mayor and he's not in that position a few days again before the tone here turns more aggressive. Perhaps it is because he is the perceived leader of the coalition of democrats, whether true or not, or perhaps it is just because the guy is unlikable. I have no idea. It's also interesting you never read people defending Stout. You get people counter posters on politics and disagree about the issues like the Library. But I hardly ever recall anyone posting, “you got him all wrong, he’s a great guy and here’s why.” Why is that? I don’t really know him personally so I’m just curious.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Jan 6 2010, 10:44 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The January 4, 2010 Township Committee Reorganization Meeting
This thread is all over the place. Let Dave and Jay vote on some substantive issues before we pass judgement. If you just can't stop yourself from posting start a new thread. Call it, "David Stout is a minion of Satan", and have yourself a field day.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Jan 6 2010, 10:44 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The January 4, 2010 Township Committee Reorganization Meeting
Guest wrote:
Perhaps you were confused about the topic of this post- "the township reorganization meeting from january 4th".
Perhaps you had trouble following the progression of the topic which subsequently brought up additional appointments to this and other boards. I know it can be hard, but real word discussions often involve more than one simple point. Reality is like that too. People's actions are complex and can rarely be judged in isolation. Sorry if this is beyond your comprehension.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Jan 6 2010, 10:04 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The January 4, 2010 Township Committee Reorganization Meeting
Who gave Cranbury the "crappy ballfield"?
Who said the PNC building is a once in a lifetime deal?
Who raised the property tax for most of the homes in Cranbury?
Guest
Posted: Wed, Jan 6 2010, 9:38 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The January 4, 2010 Township Committee Reorganization Meeting
Guest wrote:
Bi (partisan) curious wrote:
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Hey, how about being the best qualified person for a positon on the Planning Board regardless of political party? We just need the best man to get the job done.
Exactly!
That's why it's so sad and frustrating that Mr. Stout puts party before qualification. We need qaulified people and I don't care what party they belong to.
Just curious...
What makes you think Win is more qualified than David Stout to be on the planning board? If you are basing your selection on qualifications, Stout has a lot more experience. The reasoning that has been given to support Win for the Planning Board seat is his "different opinions", which is akin to party affiliation.
I'm not saying Win shouldn't have been selected, just pointing out what appears to be an inconsistency in the logic above.
Your confusion stems from mistakenly inferring that I was only concerned with the appointment of the TC members to the board. Rather, it is Mr. Stout’s policy over his multiple tenures as Mayor to only appoint political allies to any open board positions to which I was referring.
Perhaps you were confused about the topic of this post- "the township reorganization meeting from january 4th".
Guest
Posted: Wed, Jan 6 2010, 9:17 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The January 4, 2010 Township Committee Reorganization Meeting
Bi (partisan) curious wrote:
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Hey, how about being the best qualified person for a positon on the Planning Board regardless of political party? We just need the best man to get the job done.
Exactly!
That's why it's so sad and frustrating that Mr. Stout puts party before qualification. We need qaulified people and I don't care what party they belong to.
Just curious...
What makes you think Win is more qualified than David Stout to be on the planning board? If you are basing your selection on qualifications, Stout has a lot more experience. The reasoning that has been given to support Win for the Planning Board seat is his "different opinions", which is akin to party affiliation.
I'm not saying Win shouldn't have been selected, just pointing out what appears to be an inconsistency in the logic above.
Your confusion stems from mistakenly inferring that I was only concerned with the appointment of the TC members to the board. Rather, it is Mr. Stout’s policy over his multiple tenures as Mayor to only appoint political allies to any open board positions to which I was referring. First, it is statistically improbable that all the “most qualified” people would all happen to be political allies of his and, second, he has been open with his policy of excluding members of the other party, which by definition means he is not principally concerned with qualification.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Jan 6 2010, 8:56 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The January 4, 2010 Township Committee Reorganization Meeting
Bi (partisan) curious wrote:
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Hey, how about being the best qualified person for a positon on the Planning Board regardless of political party? We just need the best man to get the job done.
Exactly!
That's why it's so sad and frustrating that Mr. Stout puts party before qualification. We need qaulified people and I don't care what party they belong to.
Just curious...
What makes you think Win is more qualified than David Stout to be on the planning board? If you are basing your selection on qualifications, Stout has a lot more experience. The reasoning that has been given to support Win for the Planning Board seat is his "different opinions", which is akin to party affiliation.
I'm not saying Win shouldn't have been selected, just pointing out what appears to be an inconsistency in the logic above.
I am not that poster. However, the issue for me is that if we have 3 seats it should be 3 people- 3 different opinions, 3 different views and 3 different backgrounds. I personally would be fine if it were Dave, David and Richard. The fact that we have 2 people filling 3 seats concerns me more than Rep vs Dem.
Bi (partisan) curious
Posted: Wed, Jan 6 2010, 8:48 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The January 4, 2010 Township Committee Reorganization Meeting
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Hey, how about being the best qualified person for a positon on the Planning Board regardless of political party? We just need the best man to get the job done.
Exactly!
That's why it's so sad and frustrating that Mr. Stout puts party before qualification. We need qaulified people and I don't care what party they belong to.
Just curious...
What makes you think Win is more qualified than David Stout to be on the planning board? If you are basing your selection on qualifications, Stout has a lot more experience. The reasoning that has been given to support Win for the Planning Board seat is his "different opinions", which is akin to party affiliation.
I'm not saying Win shouldn't have been selected, just pointing out what appears to be an inconsistency in the logic above.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Jan 6 2010, 8:18 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The January 4, 2010 Township Committee Reorganization Meeting
Wrong wrote:
Guest wrote:
Has anyone noticed that the Planning Board is filled full of Republicans? Is that bipartisan?
I wish people would look at facts. Taking out the TC reps you have Mrs. Weidner, Mr. Harvey, and Mr. Dulin all are registered Democrats. Mr. Kehrt and Mr. Speer I do not know their affiliation. Mr. Whalers is a Republican I believe.
They are fair, intelligent people and should not be brought into this discussion they have nothing to do with this discussion about TC operations. In fact Tom Weidner was very much supportive of bipartisanship in his term on the TC.
I wish you had posted your name since your posting false information in the hopes people would be uneducated.
So one confirmed Republican and at least 5 confirmed Democrats but it is "full of" Republicans. Love it...
Guest
Posted: Wed, Jan 6 2010, 8:16 pm EST
Post subject: Re: The January 4, 2010 Township Committee Reorganization Meeting
Guest wrote:
Hey, how about being the best qualified person for a positon on the Planning Board... or Township Committee for that matter, getting the job, regardless of political pary, that would be what we should wait...party-blind, like just looking at one's qualifications instead of race, creed or color or political party...very American. We just need the best man to get the job done.
Exactly!
That's why it's so sad and frustrating that Mr. Stout puts party before qualification. We need qaulified people and I don't care what party they belong to.