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[quote="Guest"]True, think about that. 12 million to take the soil. That is a lot of money. Why would they pay that much money if the soil is truly okay. I have no issue with the development of the site. In fact I support it. However, I do not support and would not want the site developed if this soil is brought in.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri, Jul 2 2010, 8:57 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Environmentalists criticize Cranbury warehouse proposal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">People used to go hunting and hiking on that property all the time. There was never an issue and no one has been hurt there since the plant exploded. That said, I would personally not want to be the construction crew digging on that site.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri, Jul 2 2010, 8:49 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Environmentalists criticize Cranbury warehouse proposal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I remember about 4-5 years ago a huge explosion was set off on that property. I heard it all the way out on Main Street. I hear there is tons of explosives in the ground and I must imagine it is extremely expensive and dangerous to clean this site.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri, Jul 2 2010, 7:48 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Environmentalists criticize Cranbury warehouse proposal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Excuse me.................................NAPALM GRENADES??????????? <br /> <br />Cheese and rice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <br />You're kidding, right?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Napalm and other terrible stuff are on this site. This place is a danger to all !</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri, Jul 2 2010, 3:58 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Environmentalists criticize Cranbury warehouse proposal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Excuse me.................................NAPALM GRENADES??????????? <br /> <br />Cheese and rice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <br />You're kidding, right?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Dan Mulligan</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri, Jul 2 2010, 9:51 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Environmentalists criticize Cranbury warehouse proposal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">That is good news. I wonder if they will come back or if the project is dead.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />To further clarify. The project was approved however the developer was not allowed several waivers they were seeking with the most important of which being the importation of the dredge material or as came to light in the eleventh hour last night some other dirt or dredge from another EPA approved site. The approval also had a series of conditions for the site as well. <br /> <br />Additionally based on what was said during the testimony which was given at several of the hearings it sounds as if the project is really only economically viable for the developer with the importation of the dredge material from NY harbor as the developer was being compensated for taking this material. <br /> <br />To summarize: No dredge or dirt will be allowed to be brought in as per our townships ordnance however if the developer can find a way to move forward with the project without bringing in dredge / dirt from outside the township and if they can meet all of the conditions of the board then conceivably they could move forward with this project.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri, Jul 2 2010, 7:06 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Environmentalists criticize Cranbury warehouse proposal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">That is good news. I wonder if they will come back or if the project is dead.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Dan Mulligan</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri, Jul 2 2010, 12:42 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Environmentalists criticize Cranbury warehouse proposal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">This meeting just ended and the dirt / soil being imported was denied along with several other waivers.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Jul 1 2010, 4:52 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Environmentalists criticize Cranbury warehouse proposal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Tonight, the Cranbury Township Planning Board will have an important decision to make. Cranbury Brick Yard LLC, a subsidiary of Colorado-based developer Viridian Partners, has requested approvals for 2.8 million square feet of new warehouses on a nearly 400-acre, heavily forested tract between Cranbury Station Road and Route 130, which is home to a threatened species of wood turtle. The tract has been designated as "rural-environmentally sensitive" on the state's development and redevelopment plan, due to its extensive environmental features, including expansive wetlands, mature forests, numerous wildlife and several streams that feed the nearby Millstone River. <br /> <br />The proposed warehouses would dump hundreds of additional trucks on the already crammed Route 130 and Cranbury Station Road every day, bringing more pollution to Cranbury's air and water and threatening more traffic accidents on Cranbury's roads. <br /> <br />The developer has requested several waivers from the town's ordinances and from the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection's regulations to facilitate its warehouse plan. First, the developer has asked the planning board to waive a Cranbury ordinance that prohibits importing fill material. Specifically, Cranbury Brick Yard wants to bring in some 500,000 cubic yards of potentially contaminated dredge spoil from the New York/New Jersey harbor on which to build its warehouses. Cranbury Brick Yard wants a waiver to drive 25,000 truckloads of dredge spoil through Cranbury. Whereas most developers pay for the fill material that they require to prepare a site for development, in this instance, the developer would be paid to take the dredge spoil off the government's hands, which is an indication of how questionable the fill material may be.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Jul 1 2010, 4:48 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Environmentalists criticize Cranbury warehouse proposal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">True, think about that. 12 million to take the soil. That is a lot of money. Why would they pay that much money if the soil is truly okay. I have no issue with the development of the site. In fact I support it. However, I do not support and would not want the site developed if this soil is brought in.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Jul 1 2010, 4:42 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Environmentalists criticize Cranbury warehouse proposal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">This is a subject that mixes up all the political stripes in town. I know some of the "Cranbury Conservatives" are all for preserving this site. I am a Cranbury liberal, who surprisingly doesn't this this site should be preserved. <br /> <br />About 15 years ago wasn't Middlesex county interested in buying the site for parkland and open space? Then unfortunately they noticed unexploded napalm grenades lying around and thought better of the purchase. <br /> <br />I understand the watershed folks are concerned about the site. Aren't they worried about ground water filtered through napalm and toxic waste? This site is a disaster. I don't want to wander through it. I don't want my kids to wander through it. If we can cap it and develop it I think we should. Sorry.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br /> <br />It's not a conservative or liberal issue. It's about the contaminated dredge material from new York harbor. Additionally nothing will be done to clean most of the site since it will be capped and then built on. <br /> <br />In the end we will still have a contaminated site, with additional contaminated sludge with buildings on top. <br /> <br />Plus the developer will be paid $12 million to bring the toxic sludge into cranbury. Last I checked you don't get paid to take dirt you usually have to pay for it.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Jul 1 2010, 3:55 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Environmentalists criticize Cranbury warehouse proposal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I think the big issue is not whether the site should be developed, but the potentially toxic soil being brought into the town from the dredging of the Arthur Kills. They keep saying the DEP approves of the soil, but of course we have seen plenty of times the DEP has been proven wrong (9-11 for example).</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Apparently the same thing happened at that strip mall being developed across from McCaffrey's on Princeton-Hightstown Rd. <br /> <br />The soil they brought in was contaminated even though it was approved by the DEP, and had to be carted away.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Jul 1 2010, 2:03 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Environmentalists criticize Cranbury warehouse proposal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I think the big issue is not whether the site should be developed, but the potentially toxic soil being brought into the town from the dredging of the Arthur Kills. They keep saying the DEP approves of the soil, but of course we have seen plenty of times the DEP has been proven wrong (9-11 for example).</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Jul 1 2010, 1:02 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Environmentalists criticize Cranbury warehouse proposal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">This is a subject that mixes up all the political stripes in town. I know some of the "Cranbury Conservatives" are all for preserving this site. I am a Cranbury liberal, who surprisingly doesn't this this site should be preserved. <br /> <br />About 15 years ago wasn't Middlesex county interested in buying the site for parkland and open space? Then unfortunately they noticed unexploded napalm grenades lying around and thought better of the purchase. <br /> <br />I understand the watershed folks are concerned about the site. Aren't they worried about ground water filtered through napalm and toxic waste? This site is a disaster. I don't want to wander through it. I don't want my kids to wander through it. If we can cap it and develop it I think we should. Sorry.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Jul 1 2010, 10:48 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Environmentalists criticize Cranbury warehouse proposal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Thursday, July 01, 2010 <br />Matt Connolly <br />STAFF WRITER <br />The Cranbury Township Planning Board will hold a public meeting tonight to discuss a proposal to build 2.8 million square feet of warehouse space on a 395-acre tract of land between Cranbury Station Road and Route 130. <br /> <br />The proposal, brought by Cranbury Brick Yard, LLC, a division of developer Viridian Partners, has come under fire from some environmentalists. <br /> <br /> <br />"What we're urging the planning board to do is to not lose sight of the fact that this is a very valuable site," said Jim Waltman, executive director of the Stony Brook-Millstone Watershed Association. "What's proposed is much too big and much too invasive." <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.nj.com/news/times/regional/index.ssf?/base/news-20/1277963105287830.xml&coll=5" target="_blank">http://www.nj.com/news/times/regional/index.ssf?/base/news-20/1277963105287830.xml&coll=5</a> <br /> <br />The public meeting will begin at 5 p.m. in the Cranbury Township Municipal Building.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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