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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon, Aug 15 2011, 6:02 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Bert and Ernie arent gay and wont get married</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44111195/ns/today-entertainment/</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Damn that Elmo! He's such a homewrecker!</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />watch your language - there are many upstanding Christian straight people reading this</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Bert & Ernie are not gay. <br />They just pretend to be a couple so that they can keep their rent controlled apartment on Sesame Street that they got together in 1970!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon, Aug 15 2011, 6:00 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Plurality Of New Jersey Voters Thinks Gay Marriage Should Be Legal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">What if I want to marry my sister?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Thats not gay. <br />Marrying your Brother.........................NOW THATS GAY!</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I assumed it was a woman marrying her sister, silly me.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />That was sexist of me.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat, Aug 13 2011, 11:50 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Bert and Ernie arent gay and wont get married</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44111195/ns/today-entertainment/</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Damn that Elmo! He's such a homewrecker!</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />watch your language - there are many upstanding Christian straight people reading this</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri, Aug 12 2011, 10:35 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Bert and Ernie arent gay and wont get married</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44111195/ns/today-entertainment/</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Damn that Elmo! He's such a homewrecker!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Aug 11 2011, 10:42 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Plurality Of New Jersey Voters Thinks Gay Marriage Should Be Legal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Bert and Ernie are icky.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu, Aug 11 2011, 9:58 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Bert and Ernie arent gay and wont get married</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"><a href="http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44111195/ns/today-entertainment/" target="_blank">http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44111195/ns/today-entertainment/</a></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Aug 10 2011, 6:10 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Plurality Of New Jersey Voters Thinks Gay Marriage Should Be Legal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Again you are confused. We find you icky.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Yeah! You're icky!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Aug 10 2011, 8:06 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Plurality Of New Jersey Voters Thinks Gay Marriage Should Be Legal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Again you are confused. We find you icky.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Aug 10 2011, 12:04 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Plurality Of New Jersey Voters Thinks Gay Marriage Should Be Legal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Your question was already answered in the novel-length reply so why re-ask?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Because he thinks he is being provacative, instead of merely dim.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Actually, the question I asked wasn't answered. I did hope the question would be provocative, as in "thought provoking". If you argue that any two consenting adults in a loving committed relationship should be allowed to marry, what would preclude me from marrying my sister?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />No one argued that "any two consenting adults in a loving committed relationship should be allowed to marry" except you. That had nothing to do with the basis for why the state should not prevent gay marriage which is about discrimination. Family members are not a recognized class that can be discriminated against so if the state wishes to prevent incest marriages it can without contradicting its laws. In fact, since most states outlaw incest entirely it would be a contradiction for it to allow incest marriages. <br /> <br />If you're trying to start a new topic about whether incest should be legal, go for it, but marriage between family members is completely unrelated to gay marriage which is what this topic was about.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I think you're missing the difference between the moral argument vs. the legal justification. I'm not debating your legal justification, but I think it ignores the larger moral debate; which is important because laws tend to change as morality changes (See Lawrence v. Texas, 2003). Regarding the moral debate... <br /> <br />Opponents of gay marriage have argued that the purpose of marriage is to foster a stable family unit for the purposes of procreation and child rearing and that is why marriage should be limited to one man and one woman. <br /> <br />Proponents of gay marriage have argued that marriage is not necessarily about procreation and child rearing (both of which are essentially available to homosexuals anyway); rather marriage is a loving, committed relationship between two consenting adults, regardless of sexual orientation. <br /> <br />What I find interesting is that many of the social liberals who are so quick to dismiss the morality of social conservatives on issue of gay marriage as over-reaching and imposing, have no problem imposing their own morality on someone who wants to marry their sister, or brother, or father, or mother. <br /> <br />What is it to you? Why should you get to decide who can and can't be in a loving committed relationship? Why is your morality superior to those with differing points of view? If you support gay marriage, on what moral grounds can you oppose intra-familial marriage?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />No one is arguing with you. We find your argument essentially trivial. I don't think liberals are arguing with you. I don't think anyone is arguing with you.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">Yeah! Who cares about the rights of such a small group of people. Besides, they're icky!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Aug 9 2011, 12:03 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Plurality Of New Jersey Voters Thinks Gay Marriage Should Be Legal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Your question was already answered in the novel-length reply so why re-ask?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Because he thinks he is being provacative, instead of merely dim.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Actually, the question I asked wasn't answered. I did hope the question would be provocative, as in "thought provoking". If you argue that any two consenting adults in a loving committed relationship should be allowed to marry, what would preclude me from marrying my sister?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />No one argued that "any two consenting adults in a loving committed relationship should be allowed to marry" except you. That had nothing to do with the basis for why the state should not prevent gay marriage which is about discrimination. Family members are not a recognized class that can be discriminated against so if the state wishes to prevent incest marriages it can without contradicting its laws. In fact, since most states outlaw incest entirely it would be a contradiction for it to allow incest marriages. <br /> <br />If you're trying to start a new topic about whether incest should be legal, go for it, but marriage between family members is completely unrelated to gay marriage which is what this topic was about.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I think you're missing the difference between the moral argument vs. the legal justification. I'm not debating your legal justification, but I think it ignores the larger moral debate; which is important because laws tend to change as morality changes (See Lawrence v. Texas, 2003). Regarding the moral debate... <br /> <br />Opponents of gay marriage have argued that the purpose of marriage is to foster a stable family unit for the purposes of procreation and child rearing and that is why marriage should be limited to one man and one woman. <br /> <br />Proponents of gay marriage have argued that marriage is not necessarily about procreation and child rearing (both of which are essentially available to homosexuals anyway); rather marriage is a loving, committed relationship between two consenting adults, regardless of sexual orientation. <br /> <br />What I find interesting is that many of the social liberals who are so quick to dismiss the morality of social conservatives on issue of gay marriage as over-reaching and imposing, have no problem imposing their own morality on someone who wants to marry their sister, or brother, or father, or mother. <br /> <br />What is it to you? Why should you get to decide who can and can't be in a loving committed relationship? Why is your morality superior to those with differing points of view? If you support gay marriage, on what moral grounds can you oppose intra-familial marriage?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />No one is arguing with you. We find your argument essentially trivial. I don't think liberals are arguing with you. I don't think anyone is arguing with you.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Almost Heaven</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2011, 10:54 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Plurality Of New Jersey Voters Thinks Gay Marriage Should Be Legal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I'm getting an idea for a new reality show- <span style="font-style: italic">Almost Heaven</span> - featuring a West Virginia family that's just a little too close.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2011, 9:28 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Plurality Of New Jersey Voters Thinks Gay Marriage Should Be Legal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Your question was already answered in the novel-length reply so why re-ask?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Because he thinks he is being provacative, instead of merely dim.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Actually, the question I asked wasn't answered. I did hope the question would be provocative, as in "thought provoking". If you argue that any two consenting adults in a loving committed relationship should be allowed to marry, what would preclude me from marrying my sister?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />No one argued that "any two consenting adults in a loving committed relationship should be allowed to marry" except you. That had nothing to do with the basis for why the state should not prevent gay marriage which is about discrimination. Family members are not a recognized class that can be discriminated against so if the state wishes to prevent incest marriages it can without contradicting its laws. In fact, since most states outlaw incest entirely it would be a contradiction for it to allow incest marriages. <br /> <br />If you're trying to start a new topic about whether incest should be legal, go for it, but marriage between family members is completely unrelated to gay marriage which is what this topic was about.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I think you're missing the difference between the moral argument vs. the legal justification. I'm not debating your legal justification, but I think it ignores the larger moral debate; which is important because laws tend to change as morality changes (See Lawrence v. Texas, 2003). Regarding the moral debate... <br /> <br />Opponents of gay marriage have argued that the purpose of marriage is to foster a stable family unit for the purposes of procreation and child rearing and that is why marriage should be limited to one man and one woman. <br /> <br />Proponents of gay marriage have argued that marriage is not necessarily about procreation and child rearing (both of which are essentially available to homosexuals anyway); rather marriage is a loving, committed relationship between two consenting adults, regardless of sexual orientation. <br /> <br />What I find interesting is that many of the social liberals who are so quick to dismiss the morality of social conservatives on issue of gay marriage as over-reaching and imposing, have no problem imposing their own morality on someone who wants to marry their sister, or brother, or father, or mother. <br /> <br />What is it to you? Why should you get to decide who can and can't be in a loving committed relationship? Why is your morality superior to those with differing points of view? If you support gay marriage, on what moral grounds can you oppose intra-familial marriage?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2011, 6:27 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Plurality Of New Jersey Voters Thinks Gay Marriage Should Be Legal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">What if I want to marry my sister?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Thats not gay. <br />Marrying your Brother.........................NOW THATS GAY!</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I assumed it was a woman marrying her sister, silly me.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon, Aug 8 2011, 5:20 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Plurality Of New Jersey Voters Thinks Gay Marriage Should Be Legal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">What if I want to marry my sister?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Thats not gay. <br />Marrying your Brother.........................NOW THATS GAY!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun, Aug 7 2011, 11:26 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Plurality Of New Jersey Voters Thinks Gay Marriage Should Be Legal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Your question was already answered in the novel-length reply so why re-ask?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Because he thinks he is being provacative, instead of merely dim.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Actually, the question I asked wasn't answered. I did hope the question would be provocative, as in "thought provoking". If you argue that any two consenting adults in a loving committed relationship should be allowed to marry, what would preclude me from marrying my sister?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />No one argued that "any two consenting adults in a loving committed relationship should be allowed to marry" except you. That had nothing to do with the basis for why the state should not prevent gay marriage which is about discrimination. Family members are not a recognized class that can be discriminated against so if the state wishes to prevent incest marriages it can without contradicting its laws. In fact, since most states outlaw incest entirely it would be a contradiction for it to allow incest marriages. <br /> <br />If you're trying to start a new topic about whether incest should be legal, go for it, but marriage between family members is completely unrelated to gay marriage which is what this topic was about.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun, Aug 7 2011, 7:50 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Plurality Of New Jersey Voters Thinks Gay Marriage Should Be Legal</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Your question was already answered in the novel-length reply so why re-ask?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Because he thinks he is being provacative, instead of merely dim.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Actually, the question I asked wasn't answered. I did hope the question would be provocative, as in "thought provoking". If you argue that any two consenting adults in a loving committed relationship should be allowed to marry, what would preclude me from marrying my sister?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Nothing, I suppose; if that's what you're in to. You might as well sleep with her while you're at it; as long as you're both consenting adults.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />... And that's the story of how West Virginia came to support gay marriage. The End.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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