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[quote="anon-065r"]Th poster was making massive hyperbole and misstatements not supported by actual facts. They only listed one specific example, the baseball field, and a bunch of unspecified vague ones like unnamed road projects that allegedly failed. Then they claimed that no one had been held accountable, ignoring the they public dismissal of the Township Engineer involved with the ball field and the near litigation the Township got into with that firm. As for "liberal mindset," on what basis would you associate alleged fiscal irresponsibility or government waste with the word "liberal"? Certainly not on any factual basis. As noted above, wasteful spending and government management is not party-specific. But to make the generalization that it is "liberal" would imply that overall it is more associated with the liberal party which just isn't the case. Consistently the conservative party when in power has outspent the liberal party in this country. The conservative party is responsible for most of our national debt. Even today a huge chunk of the current increment to the debt is the interest accumulating on the debt created by conservative leaders. For someone to look at either major US political party or their specific "liberal" or "conservative" policy adoption and call it fiscally responsible is ill-informed. Just because a group calls itself "fiscally conservative" doesn't mean it is. It's the hallmark of most political-speak, as so aptly articulated in George Orwell's 1984 to try and own the language by calling yourself the opposite of what you really are. That's certainly true of the Republican/conservative party calling itself fiscally conservative. The Democrats are no better, though Clinton was the only recent fiscally conservative President from either party. That there is massive waste in government spending and that as a society we are spending more than we can afford is unquestionable. That this has any barring on "liberal" vs "conservative" is ridiculous. Stop fooling yourself. If you are serious about responsible spending you would certainly not look toward either major US political party and certainly not to the Tea Party which is really just a social reactionary agenda posing as a fiscal one, though only the truly ignorant still buy that lie. As how any of this has to do with Cranbury politics, it simply doesn't. It's silly to impose national political rhetoric on what is happening here because they have nothing to do with each other except in some people's minds.[/quote]
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anon-921r
Posted: Sat, May 24 2014, 7:26 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Main St beautification?
Downtown looked great tonight. I understand the punch list items remain so people shouldn't get upset over the minor defects. Rather enjoy what the town looks like.
anon-921r
Posted: Fri, May 23 2014, 4:40 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Main St beautification?
anon-3q4r wrote:
the sidewalk project is looking great! The trees, combo of brick and slate. looks so nice. Thanks to all involved!
I agree. I really like the blue stone, trees and new sign for town hall, library and school. It 'a too bad we had the rain or maybe the lights could have been done.
anon-3q4r
Posted: Fri, May 23 2014, 3:25 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Main St beautification?
the sidewalk project is looking great! The trees, combo of brick and slate. looks so nice. Thanks to all involved!
anon-921r
Posted: Wed, May 21 2014, 7:47 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Main St beautification?
Apologies. With the complaints I took it the other way. I feel those who are working hard should be supported and encouraged. When the town had issues in the past TC members were not engaged.
I agree people should contact these individuals with questions or complaints.
Responsible-8q9r
Posted: Wed, May 21 2014, 6:23 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Main St beautification?
anon-921r wrote:
That isn 't news. It was pointed out in the post above that these two we're reviewing the work. That Mr. Taylor had explained issues were being worked on and plans to remedy them.
Seems to me these two people are actually performing their roles.
My message is so that people will contact them since they are performing their roles and are RESPONSIBLE for Main St beautification
anon-921r
Posted: Wed, May 21 2014, 5:57 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Main St beautification?
That isn 't news. It was pointed out in the post above that these two we're reviewing the work. That Mr. Taylor had explained issues were being worked on and plans to remedy them.
Seems to me these two people are actually performing their roles.
Responsible-8q9r
Posted: Wed, May 21 2014, 4:44 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Main St beautification?
Found on the Cranbury web
2014 Subcommittee List
Downtown Beautification: Jay Taylor and Susan Goetz
anon-418n
Posted: Wed, May 21 2014, 11:27 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Main St beautification?
Not to mention there is heritage park, the Old Trenton Rd corner is supposed to be redeveloped for commercial and there is an office building and bank on the corner of S Main and Old Trenton Rd. So this is a very visible section of our town.
anon-921r
Posted: Wed, May 21 2014, 9:53 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Main St beautification?
I heard the town got more money for downtown. At what point will the TC look at fixing curbs on Main St.? It's nice that they did downtown , but S Main is also part of the district and the curbs look horrible. As a proponent of the the downtown I'd like to see curb repair be the next round. This area has the largest church congregation and largest venue with the Inn plus our history center and firehouse. With all the weddings and tours the inn hosts one would think this would be an area the TC would want to make look nice for visitors. I am not saying brick sidewalks and such there, just decent looking curbs.
anon-sqp7
Posted: Tue, May 20 2014, 7:48 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Main St beautification?
anon;421#6-0qs4 wrote:
While we are discussing this project it might be good to get some Quality Assurance of the project before payment. If one looks at the sidewalk between the Bagel shop and toward the street corner in front of # 60 you will find a very sandy gritty surface. This is not intentional non skid. It is due to how the concrete was improperly finished. You will notice next to that building where the aggregate in the concrete is at the surface of the concrete. One cause for this is possibly having too much water in the finishing process or other factors causing the sand without the portland cement to be top. This surface Will Not wear well and will need repair in a short period of time. Lets just try to have this project meet the specifications and not end up like the generator fiasco that is now coverd in tarps because the contractor didn't follow the specs. Lets protect the taxpayers dollars as if they belonged to those folks who authorized this project and those responsible for the final payments.
As well as multiple loose bricks.
Guest
Posted: Wed, May 7 2014, 7:18 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Main St beautification?
Fiscally Irresponsib-4091 wrote:
Why do you care about quality control, it wasn't township money to do the project.
If we need money to repair it, well we can always increase the taxes. Again.
Last Friday night I saw two TC members one was Mr. Taylor the other our Mayor going over the walk by Cranbury Pizza. I asked Mr. Taylor what was going on and they said it was to agree on some work by the tree on the corner as they did not want to risk damaging the tree, but needed to decide how to treat the area. This seems prudent to me and quality control in place.
I then asked about the quality control. I was told by Mr. Taylor the works is far from complete and punch lists are being formed including one of the spots mentioned on this thread. I believe it may already be fixed, but am not sure. The engineer is apparently here daily and work is being managed.
I have confidence that the outcome will look nice and since this is grant money I am fine with the new sidewalks. I don 't think any of this would be done if not for the grants.
We don't see what is happening behind the scenes so I asked. Mr. Taylor was very pleasant and willing to go through my questions. I am sure the other TC members would be too.
Fiscally Irresponsib-4091
Posted: Tue, May 6 2014, 9:51 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Main St beautification?
Why do you care about quality control, it wasn't township money to do the project.
If we need money to repair it, well we can always increase the taxes. Again.
anon-p9n7
Posted: Sat, Apr 26 2014, 8:11 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Main St beautification?
I can agree that the bump outs are great for pedestrians! The issue of not seeing past the bump outs has nothing to do with the construction unless you are sitting on the ground, the curbs are only a few nieces high.
The big issue are the "I'm More Important" people. One parks an SUV illegally most days at the corner of Scott and North Main around 3:00. The person does not park in a spot, but at the yellow curb. Nobody can see beyond to pull off Scott. I feel that the dip in the dip at the intersections of Park Place and Scott with Main have poor visibility, this is compounded by high vehicles like SUVs parked in the spots near the intersection.
Pizza pickup is also another violator of the illegal parking, the bum outs might help this, since you will not be able to park illegally at the corners.
Ban SUVs or vans from parking in those first spots or eliminating those will help.
anon;421#6-0qs4
Posted: Thu, Apr 17 2014, 3:45 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Main St beautification?
While we are discussing this project it might be good to get some Quality Assurance of the project before payment. If one looks at the sidewalk between the Bagel shop and toward the street corner in front of # 60 you will find a very sandy gritty surface. This is not intentional non skid. It is due to how the concrete was improperly finished. You will notice next to that building where the aggregate in the concrete is at the surface of the concrete. One cause for this is possibly having too much water in the finishing process or other factors causing the sand without the portland cement to be top. This surface Will Not wear well and will need repair in a short period of time. Lets just try to have this project meet the specifications and not end up like the generator fiasco that is now coverd in tarps because the contractor didn't follow the specs. Lets protect the taxpayers dollars as if they belonged to those folks who authorized this project and those responsible for the final payments.
anon-0p7o
Posted: Wed, Apr 16 2014, 7:55 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Main St beautification?
anon-sp08 wrote:
Of course you had to go and be logical which has no place here when someone is determined to make stuff up so they can complain...
Is that better for you or are you still a bit confused??? I know it might be hard for you to comprehend. It's just fact and common sense.
anon-0p7o
Posted: Wed, Apr 16 2014, 7:52 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Main St beautification?
anon-56qr wrote:
I find it much easier to see oncoming cars. A couple of points to the above poster.
1) if you see a car coming and feel you need to go into their lane. Then just wait a minute for the car to pass.
2) right now the road is a good 4 feet narrower than when the work will be done. When completed the road will be no narrower than if a car was parked in the spot the bump outs took over. However , because the ground is flat you will have an uninstructed view of Main St in both directions.
I don't understand the complaints on the bump outs.
If they were not done there would still be a parked car to negotiate around. So the same difficulty in keeping your car in the lane is present.
The county never plowed parking spots. So snow removal is no issue, but if you reay want to make snow removal work make Main St a snow route. Ticket and tow every car parked on the street during a storm. I think that is nuts by the way.
I like the bump outs. Using them as a pedestrian I can now see cars coming. As a driver the same goes.
I will start with the most obvious first
1) The county has always plowed the parking spots between cars. I guess you never noticed.
2) A good 4 feet? Did you measure that or just assume? I can tell by eye it is nowhere near 4 feet.
3) The road being flat and you will now have an unobstructed view makes no sense. The road was flat before , and even with the lost parking spaces the view is no better. Now you just have to inch up farther past the white stop line. If your vehicle is struck in this area you are at fault by state law.
4) When a car truck or SUV is parked in the last spot before the bumb outs your pedestrian view is no better than before.
5) Why is it nuts to ticket and tow every car parked on Main st during a snowstorm? Every other town in this area has done just that for years. I guess you just like trampling through snow to get to a Main st business.
I hope this makes it a bit easier for you to understand!