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[quote="anon-370q"]Some of the posters here seem to have a simplistic view of what a Township can legally do about development. NJ laws and courts are incredibly developer friendly. Just ask West Windsor that spent over a decade and millions of taxpayer dollars trying to limit a major housing development only to completely lose in court and get stuck with a thousand homes and almost no public infrastructure confessions from the developer. Landowners can develop warehouses in the industrial zones of town as-of-right. When they come to the Township for specific zoning and planing reviews, it's usually for relatively modest variances from what is already allowed and the legal standards are such that if the Township refused they usually could develop without them or if not sue and more often than not win in court. So usually the whole approval process is a dance, an effort to negotiate concessions that developers consider cheaper and more expedient than fighting and eventually winning their rights in court. Also, Cranbury doesn't exist in a bubble. There are many warehouse projects in Monroe, South Brunswick and East Windsor that generate traffic through our town but that traffic brings nothing to our tax base. Even if our TC tried to obstruct legal development, the users would just move one town over and their trucks would still end up on Route 130, etc. It's easy to armchair quarterback the idea that you can just say no to business development without any comprehension of the legal or tax implications of doing so. If you really think you have some magic bullet solution to prevent development, not impact our taxes and avoid expensive legal challenges from property owners, why not go to a meeting or volunteer for a board. They usually have to beg people to take the positions, so I'm sure they would love to hear from someone with a great plan. You could probably make a lot of money as a consultant for other township's too with your special plan, since most townships struggle with this. Everyone wants to be small, resident-centric, traffic-lite and still have lower taxes.[/quote]
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anon-q2r7
Posted: Wed, Jul 19 2017, 9:09 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: 9:30pm closing time for main st businesses
JPsaki wrote:
This regulation or ordinance has me concerned as both a resident of Cranbury and a local business owner. Does anyone know the name or the number or the code of the regulation or ordinance which requires businesses on Main Street to be closed by 9:30? I'd like to read it. Thank you.
What are you concerned about? It's been the rule ever since they allowed outdoor dining. It only effects a few businesses. The people who live in that area should be entitled to peace and quiet. I'm all for changing it to 9 pm. Who really needs ice cream or pizza after.
JPsaki
Posted: Mon, Jul 3 2017, 8:36 am EDT
Post subject: Re: 9:30pm closing time for main st businesses
Thank you for the info. I'll look for it.
anon-s6p5
Posted: Mon, Jul 3 2017, 6:38 am EDT
Post subject: Re: 9:30pm closing time for main st businesses
It's in the code book online on the two website.
It is under the outdoor dining ordinance.
JPsaki
Posted: Sun, Jul 2 2017, 10:20 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: 9:30pm closing time for main st businesses
This regulation or ordinance has me concerned as both a resident of Cranbury and a local business owner. Does anyone know the name or the number or the code of the regulation or ordinance which requires businesses on Main Street to be closed by 9:30? I'd like to read it. Thank you.
anon-49n2
Posted: Sat, Jul 1 2017, 12:07 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: 9:30pm closing time for main st businesses
Hopefully a quick check will finally act on their approval and build on Dey Rd.
Guest
Posted: Sat, Jul 1 2017, 11:58 am EDT
Post subject: Re: 9:30pm closing time for main st businesses
Finally
anon-102q
Posted: Thu, Jun 29 2017, 6:33 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: 9:30pm closing time for main st businesses
7-11 is building a store at the Valero.
anon-445r
Posted: Thu, Jun 29 2017, 6:29 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: 9:30pm closing time for main st businesses
I wahs uebhaupt's net wos do los is
anon-2833
Posted: Thu, Jun 29 2017, 12:03 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: 9:30pm closing time for main st businesses
At the cranbury circle where the cars drive around on route 130, there is a gas station called Valero. There is construction being down.
anon-5p0n
Posted: Thu, Jun 29 2017, 10:03 am EDT
Post subject: Re: 9:30pm closing time for main st businesses
anon-102q wrote:
Anyone know what they are building at the circle, in the gas station?
Do you mean the triangle across route 130 from the gas station? Not sure what you mean by circle in the gas station?
anon-102q
Posted: Wed, Jun 28 2017, 3:31 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: 9:30pm closing time for main st businesses
Anyone know what they are building at the circle, in the gas station?
anon-068p
Posted: Wed, Jun 28 2017, 1:59 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: 9:30pm closing time for main st businesses
Lol. Many people care what Cranbury looks like. Just stop your trolling.
anon-pp98
Posted: Wed, Jun 28 2017, 1:42 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: 9:30pm closing time for main st businesses
anon-r566 wrote:
For a long timer you seem to care very little about the town. You can't spell his name right, you ignore that the TC is the one who did the redevelopment plan for s Main St not the PB and you don't care what that the town not be blighted by warehouses that look like a port city instead of what we have despite the fact that the businesses themselves like it.
So your only position is that as a long timer you don't care to know what goes on or what the town looks like. Glad the long timers I know don't agree with you.
No one cares how pretty the warehouses look only you do Alan what an ego
anon-r566
Posted: Wed, Jun 28 2017, 10:21 am EDT
Post subject: Re: 9:30pm closing time for main st businesses
For a long timer you seem to care very little about the town. You can't spell his name right, you ignore that the TC is the one who did the redevelopment plan for s Main St not the PB and you don't care what that the town not be blighted by warehouses that look like a port city instead of what we have despite the fact that the businesses themselves like it.
So your only position is that as a long timer you don't care to know what goes on or what the town looks like. Glad the long timers I know don't agree with you.
anon-pp98
Posted: Wed, Jun 28 2017, 9:31 am EDT
Post subject: Re: 9:30pm closing time for main st businesses
anon-r566 wrote:
I am a very long time resident probably longer than you (over 50 years here) who remembers Cranbury when it was mostly farmland. I can't see how any long time resident would not want to have the best looking town possible.
Yes, we did have a real dump. But, why would you want a warehouse that looks like it belongs in port Elizabeth if you truly care about the town? That the warehouses look nice is a benefit to our town.
That we're over devoping S Main st in what used to be a wonderful gateway with farmland is a shame.
Kurt is the reason we are building south main street the way it is he ran the committee that planned it and who cares how fancy a warehouse looks its a warehouse not the taj mahal ha ha ha ha
anon-r566
Posted: Wed, Jun 28 2017, 8:00 am EDT
Post subject: Re: 9:30pm closing time for main st businesses
I am a very long time resident probably longer than you (over 50 years here) who remembers Cranbury when it was mostly farmland. I can't see how any long time resident would not want to have the best looking town possible.
Yes, we did have a real dump. But, why would you want a warehouse that looks like it belongs in port Elizabeth if you truly care about the town? That the warehouses look nice is a benefit to our town.
That we're over devoping S Main st in what used to be a wonderful gateway with farmland is a shame.