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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Costs per person</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 7 2008, 10:58 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Editorial: Public input necessary for solution to Cranbury library issues</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">so are you saying that if we didnt do the ball field we might have built the library instead?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br /> <br />I didn’t say that, I just stated that building a new library structure is a multimillion dollar project based on prior cost of other new local libraries, and also our prior track record with the ball field as an example. I estimate it at something like $6-11mil and that's almost 8 times more expensive per person in Cranbury then Plainsboro. Most people who are proponents for the new library building really dont understand what a new building will cost their own family. if we rush into this without planning it will be even greater per household then $600/yr increases in property taxes. <br /> <br />I think this is why some proponents of a new building want to rush these decisions even before we start planning for it. Without long-term planning these types of projects become even more expensive to Cranbury taxpayers. <br /> <br />My only consolation right now is that with our current stock market and NJ fiscal/job/real-estate problems will delay any discussions of multimillion dollar spending on a new library building in the next few years, at lest I'm hoping sound reasoning prevails. On top of all those crises, the biggest one is still looming over Cranbury as we all know. <br /> <br />There are common sense solutions to solving all of the issues with the joint library relationship, the crisis is that we cant work together to fix them in a logical way. We were able to do this in the past with great success.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 7 2008, 9:22 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Editorial: Public input necessary for solution to Cranbury library issues</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I don't think one should have affected the other but in practical terms my belief is if the ballfield had not happened we may already own the PNC site now and be working on a Library plan there. Not that it makes any more sense. But the outrageous way they snuck in the ballfield under most people's radars raised really got people's attentions. I know I, like others, were actively on the lookout after that for "another ballfield" -- another totally discretionary spending initiative attempted by the majority on the TC with little public discussion and no general vote. So when the PNC purchase issue came before the TC a lot of people noticed right away and didn't trust what would happen if they didn't show up and loudly protest it right away. Perhaps Tom and Wayne would have voted against it no matter what. But I am confident there would not have been as many people who show up to speak against the purchase had it not been for the ballfield.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 7 2008, 7:56 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Editorial: Public input necessary for solution to Cranbury library issues</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Library Costs Per Person wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Cost of Plainsboro New Library per resident formula is <br />11,800,000/ 20,000 = $590/person total cost <br /> <br />that would mean that a similar burden in Cranbury would allow for <br /> <br />$590 * 2500 = 1,475,000 total cost of entire project to be balanced <br /> <br />and if you spread it over 5yrs that's $118 per year for 5 years <br /> <br />But I frankly dont think that Cranbury could ever do it for 1.4mil since the ball field will cost us almost a million already. <br />So I estimate that the costs will be more like $6-11mil, that's around 8 times more costly then its been for each resident in Plainsboro. That make it over $700 increase per year I estimate.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />so are you saying that if we didnt do the ball field we might have built the library instead?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Library Costs Per Person</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 7 2008, 7:24 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Editorial: Public input necessary for solution to Cranbury library issues</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Cost of Plainsboro New Library per resident formula is <br />11,800,000/ 20,000 = $590/person total cost <br /> <br />that would mean that a similar burden in Cranbury would allow for <br /> <br />$590 * 2500 = 1,475,000 total cost of entire project to be balanced <br /> <br />and if you spread it over 5yrs that's $118 per year for 5 years <br /> <br />But I frankly dont think that Cranbury could ever do it for 1.4mil since the ball field will cost us almost a million already. <br />So I estimate that the costs will be more like $6-11mil, that's around 8 times more costly then its been for each resident in Plainsboro. That make it over $700 increase per year I estimate.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 7 2008, 7:05 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Editorial: Public input necessary for solution to Cranbury library issues</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">It takes at least 5yrs to plan for a new library building. You can not just rush into it, both Princeton and Plainsboro had a lot of planning upfront before they started the project. First step is to identify how it fits into the Master Plan of the municipality. <br /> <br />Here's how they structured the fundraising, notice how they already had a location identified and general cost estimates before they started to fundraise. <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.plainsboronj.com/RFQ-Library_Fundraising_Counsel_combined_format.doc" target="_blank">http://www.plainsboronj.com/RFQ-Library_Fundraising_Counsel_combined_format.doc</a> <br /> <br />I still dont see any identifiable need for a change in the public library. To start this type of planning you need to identify an issue with the current arrangement, and since everything I have seen so far with the current arrangement is working well. The Space issues are manageable, security addressed, changed hours are vaible, all this make the join partnership with school even better.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 7 2008, 3:02 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Editorial: Public input necessary for solution to Cranbury library issues</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">The Public Library has money in the bank. However, this money could never be used to pay down taxes in the current situation because the Public Library has needs…the Public Library is in trouble. The residents in town say that the library should have more books and more services. The school is curtailing their daytime hours. The State Librarian would never approve a give back of the library’s money in light of these facts. It seems simple to me. The Public Library has money. They should plan for the future.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I'm tired of talking about the "NEW LIBRARY" that is a want and not a need. Has anyone been watching the news lately? Credit has shrunk, California is borrowing 7 billion from the federal govt just to pay salaries, stock market is falling, businesses are closing (do you know how many empty commercial/industrial buildings are empty in CRANBURY alone?) and we are talking about building a FREE STANDING LIBRARY. Not only that, proponents in this town are sleazily trying to back door this new library at the expense of the taxpayer. <br /> <br />Plus, You are exaggerating when you say the "Library in in trouble". Far from it - They are sitting on close to 1 million dollars, do not pay rent or utilities, were asked to change hours to protect our CRANBURY CHILDREN. Yes, this is a community entity and the children are part of this community. <br /> <br />Now let me comment on "The residents in town say that the library should have more books and more services." Yes, you are correct people always want more, more, more . . . But, there is a price to paid. Would everyone like to pay an extra $600 or more in property taxes for the library? Once again, This is a want and not a need. <br /> <br />And for those who want to ask for donations. It is illegal to fund raise without a purpose and final disposition of funds. Funds cannot be held infinately. <br /> <br />I think the school and library are around the children too much because they are acting just like them. If the library feels they cannot close for those hours (however, were is the proof of the number of people outside the school would suffer - how many? 2?10?) Come to think of it, I believe the library said the librarians feel it would be too hard on them even though they can work it out to make the same number of working hours with the same pay. There are so many people loosing their jobs and we are being so short sighted and spoiled. <br /> <br />Since, The library states that they have a "Tenancy at will" (which is a lease without an ending date); they feel that the school cannot change the hours. However, it is my understanding when this "Tenancy at will" started, the Library DID have reduced hours. Later on, the school allowed the Library longer hours. So, the Lease type that Library thinks they have is probably a "Tenancy year to year" Since, the hours have changed over the years with the understanding that both parties agreeing to the changed hours. <br /> <br />For the life of me, I cannot understand why the library can't keep the current hours and the school tell the school children to use the bathrooms in the school during the day. Why does the TC have to be "Daddy" to make the decision and pay for everything? <br /> <br />The proponents for the library have a library board and the friends of the Cranbury Library to look to for guidance. Where is the planning from them? Any design ideas? How much space will be needed? Community rooms too? How much will it cost? Why must it always be on the heads of the taxpayers? How will they raise private donations? Private or Corporate donations of a rooms? <br /> <br /> <br />The only reason to get the TC involved should be for future location. Planning is then in the ball park of the Library Board. But, it should be know, the taxpayers do not want our taxes to increase.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 7 2008, 1:18 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Editorial: Public input necessary for solution to Cranbury library issues</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Thanks for the explanation. <br /> <br />If Cranbury decides to use the services provided by Plainsboro library (i.e., there is no Cranbury library), will the state keep the 1%?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />The town would have to vote on a public referendum to dissolve our public library. The 1% would not be collected for this purpose. <br /> <br />This is what is happening in Jamesburg.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>bad revaluation</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 7 2008, 1:03 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Editorial: Public input necessary for solution to Cranbury library issues</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">New Jersey Law and Municipal Public Library funding. <br />Once a municipal public library is established in New Jersey, the library is funded by 1% of a mil of assessed real estate value in that town. ...</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Wow! That's a great motivation to do the revaluation, and it's done close to the peak of the bubble! I bet the budget of the library is probably more than doubled after the revaluation. No wonder it needs more space for the new purchasing power.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>1% question</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 7 2008, 12:32 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Editorial: Public input necessary for solution to Cranbury library issues</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">New Jersey Law and Municipal Public Library funding. <br />Once a municipal public library is established in New Jersey, the library is funded by 1% of a mil of assessed real estate value in that town. We pay our taxes and the state sends the township back the amount for the library appropriation. By law this must be given to the library. This amount does not appear as a line item on the town’s budget and can not be reduced by the Township Committee. Some towns augment this funding with additional money. Cranbury does not. <br />Law: N.J.S.A. 40: 54-8 <a href="http://www.njstatelib.org/LDB/Library_Law/lwes0001.php" target="_blank">http://www.njstatelib.org/LDB/Library_Law/lwes0001.php</a></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Thanks for the explanation. <br /> <br />If Cranbury decides to use the services provided by Plainsboro library (i.e., there is no Cranbury library), will the state keep the 1%?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 7 2008, 12:21 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Editorial: Public input necessary for solution to Cranbury library issues</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">New Jersey Law and Municipal Public Library funding. <br />Once a municipal public library is established in New Jersey, the library is funded by 1% of a mil of assessed real estate value in that town. We pay our taxes and the state sends the township back the amount for the library appropriation. By law this must be given to the library. This amount does not appear as a line item on the town’s budget and can not be reduced by the Township Committee. Some towns augment this funding with additional money. Cranbury does not. <br />Law: N.J.S.A. 40: 54-8 <a href="http://www.njstatelib.org/LDB/Library_Law/lwes0001.php" target="_blank">http://www.njstatelib.org/LDB/Library_Law/lwes0001.php</a></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 7 2008, 10:45 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Editorial: Public input necessary for solution to Cranbury library issues</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Just to add a point of clarification to my post above. As of the end of 2006, we had a debt of 25.156 mill. <br /> <br />Building a library with pure cost on the town would further the debt limit, which is why I oppose that idea and encourage private donations plus limited township support. <br /> <br />Given our debt today and COAH if the town has a surplus of 1 mill then with this number I'd rather allocate any yearly surplus as part to fund major expenditures whether it be a library as I said, preserving land, or other such large purchase that may come down the pike so we can avoid adding more debt. If you do an 80%/20% split with 80% going to debt and 20% being banked you end up positioning yourself for the long term. Otherwise you pay off debt only to reincur it at a later date.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 7 2008, 10:36 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Editorial: Public input necessary for solution to Cranbury library issues</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">1) On the commercial rateables, unless there is another revaluation you won't see the cost pushed back onto the residents. I don't think anyone would support another revaluation. So that point is moot for the time being. <br /> <br />2) On the surplus, I am defining a surplus as income-expenses, meaning no tax rate increase. If we can meet expenses without raising taxes and there is a surplus remaining than dedicate a portion of that for saving for a library. We have over 13 mill of debt, so that number your quoting is wrong. However, if we get an annual surplus of 1 mill, then I have no issue taking 200K banking it for a library and using 800K to retire debt. The reason being that I'd rather not retire debt only to increase it later on. I want a solid financial situation. Again, the private donations are a critical aspect of funding for the building.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 7 2008, 10:21 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Editorial: Public input necessary for solution to Cranbury library issues</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">The fact is neither you nor I know what the state would say, so there is no harm in asking. <br /> <br />Yes, I meant real surplus. As commercial properties come on board we get additional tax revenue. If in a year there is no surplus none is budgeted. I also am not saying it all has to go to a library, hence the public donation. However, havinga portion earmarked would be preferable to me than incurring more debt later on. I am alos not syainga library now, however, if COAH does go through the school will most certainly force the library to leave. I'd rather be prepared in that scenario to keep a library than to lose it or have to build the COAH homes and library through a bond.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I'm still confused. You say you support a "real" surplus, but that would mean first paying off $13 million in debt. There is no amount of new tax revenue from commercial properties that is going to erase $13 million in debt any time soon. Or you can think like our Mayor and define surplus simply as money left over after paying interest on our debt, which only defers the damage. Plus, the more commercial properties we get, the more our COAH obligation increases. At the moment its not at all clear that it is even cost effective to encourage additional commercial development versus the additional obligations it creates for the Township, especially as commercial property values decline and they transfer that burden to residents, as they did two years ago.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 7 2008, 8:38 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Editorial: Public input necessary for solution to Cranbury library issues</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I am all for an improved public library and saving for that goal. Also, raising private funds would be great. There is a lot of community support for our library. We need our public library especially in these economic times....and if we can do so without raises taxes, I am definitely in favor.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 7 2008, 8:35 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Editorial: Public input necessary for solution to Cranbury library issues</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">A NJ Law was passed this spring, S429/A1265, that allows transfer of funds to a municipality under specific circumstances that the State Librarian must approve. I am a professional librarian and I can say that if the Public Library can show that the library has plans and the community uses and wants more library services, the State Librarian would never approve the transfer.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Oct 7 2008, 7:14 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Editorial: Public input necessary for solution to Cranbury library issues</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">The fact is neither you nor I know what the state would say, so there is no harm in asking. <br /> <br />Yes, I meant real surplus. As commercial properties come on board we get additional tax revenue. If in a year there is no surplus none is budgeted. I also am not saying it all has to go to a library, hence the public donation. However, havinga portion earmarked would be preferable to me than incurring more debt later on. I am alos not syainga library now, however, if COAH does go through the school will most certainly force the library to leave. I'd rather be prepared in that scenario to keep a library than to lose it or have to build the COAH homes and library through a bond.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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