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[quote="Guest"]Statutorily it can actually be whatever the engineering study reveals (which was an 85th percentile speed of around 55 mph); the statute specifically recommends that speed limits be established by engineering studies (the statutes are typically so that 25 doesnt need to be posted on every neighborhood street or 50 doesnt need to be posted on every rural road to be enforced). MUTCD also recommends engineering studies (and may actually [i]require[/i] them). Basically, on the basis that pretty much all engineering literature recommends the 85th percentile as a criteria for establishing speed limits and states that lowering speed limits far below this value is unsafe, someone could take the county to court for posting an unsafe speed limit that negatively impacts traffic conditions. In fact, I encourage anyone who gets a ticket here to fight it on these grounds. Speeding is supposed to be punished because it is unsafe, but the speed limits have to be set at reasonable levels for this to actually apply. Is going 50 mph here unsafe just because the limit was reduced? Is 50 mph unsafe on tons of other (more developed) roads like 571, Rabbit Hill Rd, and Cranbury Neck Rd.? I'm not trying to convince you specifically, but just laying out the rationale for all of this.[/quote]
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Guest
Posted: Sun, Jun 26 2011, 5:10 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding
good thing im not a limey.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jun 23 2011, 6:11 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding
Guest wrote:
I'm 68 years old /sarcasm
Yeah, I should totally be banned for posting contrary views. I don't remember being banned though, lol.
I have an idea ... let's establish a "Speaker's Corner" at the park on OTR. You know, something akin to the one at Hyde's Park in London. ANyone who has a subject matter they'd like to share gets up a box and spouts out there ideas. Just remember, when you're driving to the corner make sure it is in accordance with the OTR speed limit..
Guest
Posted: Tue, Jun 21 2011, 7:00 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding
Guest wrote:
Mr. Two Posts
There once was a man from Cranbury…
Or was it Plainsboro?
Or Lawrenceville?
Or a Cadillac Deville?
No matter
Because the Mad Hatter
Just had to go faster
To avoid a traffic disaster
The world just was not right
Unless his intellectual might
Was displayed not once at a time but twice
For those of us with brains of mice
If only we could appreciate
And fully differentiate
Between the 85 percentile
And the rants of a juvenile
He is a man on a mission
But not to save on emissions
He must make us all understand
That he alone is in command
God bless 50 miles per hour. Anything less is un-American.
Thank you for your wisdom Mr. Two Posts.
Wow you need to get a life.
Guest
Posted: Mon, Jun 20 2011, 1:07 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding
I'm responding to different people and trying to explain things in more elaborate ways when they might misunderstand....this is almost a year later why should I assume that possibly new posters have read it?
Guest
Posted: Mon, Jun 20 2011, 11:22 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding
Guest wrote:
Yeah, I should totally be banned for posting contrary views. I don't remember being banned though, lol.
I am not the previous posters but you seem to miss their point. Their criticism is not about posting your point of view. It is about reposting the same thing over and over. When you do that it becomes SPAM. That doesn't mean the original point is invalid just that constantly replying with the same information is the online equivalent of yelling. It doesn't make you point stronger. The most power persuaders are not those who feel compelled to have the last word and reply to every comment. They are those that make a strong case and let it stand on its own merit. This is the Internet. People can read your earlier comments.
Guest
Posted: Mon, Jun 20 2011, 10:48 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding
I'm 68 years old /sarcasm
Yeah, I should totally be banned for posting contrary views. I don't remember being banned though, lol.
Guest
Posted: Mon, Jun 20 2011, 10:16 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding
I don't know if he was banned but the moderator locked his topic out last year:
http://www.cranbury.info/viewtopic.php?t=4088&start=112
And whoever called him two posts is right on. He was running two topics at once then just like now.
http://www.cranbury.info/viewtopic.php?t=4009&start=96
It seems to be a summer thing. I wonder if he is either a teacher or more likely a student.
Guest
Posted: Mon, Jun 20 2011, 8:51 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding
Guest wrote:
ikons698 wrote:
I sure hope you're not the guy who posted that thing, which would be hilarious.
I'm assuming you're not (can't tell whose who very much here) but yeah, this thread should be closed. And the flamer/troll should be banned. I guess my views irritate a lot of people, but I'm civil about them.
Since you have said your the former Plainsboro poster, weren't you banned last year on over similar topics?
should be - Since you have said you're the former......
Guest
Posted: Mon, Jun 20 2011, 7:59 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding
ikons698 wrote:
I sure hope you're not the guy who posted that thing, which would be hilarious.
I'm assuming you're not (can't tell whose who very much here) but yeah, this thread should be closed. And the flamer/troll should be banned. I guess my views irritate a lot of people, but I'm civil about them.
Since you have said your the former Plainsboro poster, weren't you banned last year on over similar topics?
Guest
Posted: Mon, Jun 20 2011, 6:42 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding
ikons698 wrote:
I sure hope you're not the guy who posted that thing, which would be hilarious.
I'm assuming you're not (can't tell whose who very much here) but yeah, this thread should be closed. And the flamer/troll should be banned. I guess my views irritate a lot of people, but I'm civil about them.
should be (can't tell who's who very much here)
ikons698
Posted: Mon, Jun 20 2011, 12:19 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding
I sure hope you're not the guy who posted that thing, which would be hilarious.
I'm assuming you're not (can't tell whose who very much here) but yeah, this thread should be closed. And the flamer/troll should be banned. I guess my views irritate a lot of people, but I'm civil about them.
Guest
Posted: Mon, Jun 20 2011, 12:15 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding
This thread had long outlasted its usefulness. Now it is just a venue to taunt each other. Shut this baby down.
Guest
Posted: Mon, Jun 20 2011, 12:10 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding
Okay, get this. This guy spends hours thinking up some shitty 'poem' to insult me because he's so butt hurt over my views, and I'm the no life loser for posting facts about traffic engineering or I'm the 'OCD' for posting twice because I can't edit a post. Right. You can bet your house that this loser wouldn't be going so far out of its way to insult me and act like a smart ass if this was someone strongly arguing
for
something it approved of. Pseudo-trolling some low traffic forum pretty much means you have no life at all.
Guest
Posted: Sun, Jun 19 2011, 11:15 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding
Mr. Two Posts
There once was a man from Cranbury…
Or was it Plainsboro?
Or Lawrenceville?
Or a Cadillac Deville?
No matter
Because the Mad Hatter
Just had to go faster
To avoid a traffic disaster
The world just was not right
Unless his intellectual might
Was displayed not once at a time but twice
For those of us with brains of mice
If only we could appreciate
And fully differentiate
Between the 85 percentile
And the rants of a juvenile
He is a man on a mission
But not to save on emissions
He must make us all understand
That he alone is in command
God bless 50 miles per hour. Anything less is un-American.
Thank you for your wisdom Mr. Two Posts.
Guest
Posted: Sun, Jun 19 2011, 3:05 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding
I don't really care if you're reading me as a dispassionate 'scientist'...you're clearly too emotional about the issue to view it in a scientific mindset....I can't edit my posts so I posted another one. Big friggin deal. Looks like you're reading too much into this. You have so much of a problem with me being against slow speed limits, but you're totally okay with soccer moms screaming to get speed limits lowered for years on end. Whose more obsessive?
Guest
Posted: Sun, Jun 19 2011, 7:21 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding
You're confusing me with other posters. But LOL that you are so charged up about this that you keep having to post twice in a row. It's like you finish one and you're still so worked up you have to keep going. And you don't even realize how you come across. No one is reading you as a dispassionate scientist in this.