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[quote="Thank You-6906"]Thank you to the Cranbury Women's Club and especially Bobbi Marlowe for hosting the Candidates Night. Also, thanks to the candidates for participating. I think it was valuable to see the differences between the candidates and appreciate the opportunity to hear what they had to say. In my opinion, the contrast seems to be between short-term and long-term thinking. The challengers propose to spend down the surplus and minimize expenses in the short term to provide short term tax relief. The incumbents propose to balance the short term needs and wants of the Township with the tradition of long term planning and operatations that has kept Cranbury special and will continue to protect Cranbury in the future from the potentially catastrophic expenses (such as the Dam, COAH and the collapse of warehouse rateables in the Great Recession). I personally plan on living in Cranbury for the long term, and accordingly, I have a vested interest in the long term success of Cranbury. So I will be voting for the incumbents, Dave Cook and Jay Taylor.[/quote]
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anon-818s
Posted: Wed, Oct 24 2012, 5:06 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Candidates Night
Would you apply for a management position and expect to be hired if you did not know the industry? Isn't the TC the same principle? We're looking for executives to manage the town. I think understanding how decisions have been made, how our civic groups fit into our town and how the different pieces work is critical to keeping our town taxes down and character intact. Dave and Jay are ingrained in civic organizations and understand the linkage between them and our town.
Republican for Jay/D-129n
Posted: Wed, Oct 24 2012, 4:02 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Candidates Night
It was a great question that Wayne Wittman twisted around. Anyone interested in any elected office should at the very least show some prior interest. Most school board members were active in one way or the other with the school before running. For TC you don't need prior experience, but some involvement in town activites would be appropriate. Neither challenger could point to any volunteer work they did or organizations they belong to that pertain to Cranbury. The challengers both knew in April that they were running unopposed for the Rebulican slots. They had time to get inolved. Tom even said he was going to prepare a financial plan. Why then did they not atttend a single budget meeting? Why did they not attend all of the TC meetings? They will have to do both if they are elected. The TC takes a lot of time and dedication. The challengers have not demonstrated that they are up to it.
Anon-4895
Posted: Tue, Oct 23 2012, 8:57 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Candidates Night
I was at candidate's night and it was a softball question IF you could answer it. All they had to say was "yes, I went to a COAH meeting in 2009 because I was very concerned about the future of Cranbury" or "yes, after two tax increases, I went to a TC meeting to learn more about our budget". Both Dave and Jay answered the question that, yes, they attended various meetings prior to running for office because, presumably because they live in Cranbury and care about the town. The challengers could not answer the question because apparently they did not attend any town meetings prior to running for office. I'm not saying the challengers don't care about Cranbury, but attending a meeting or two to learn about the town is one way to show you are interested. The question had nothing to do with prior government experience, it was meant to check interest level as a resident.
anon-97on
Posted: Sat, Oct 20 2012, 11:07 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Candidates Night
anon-6103 wrote:
anon-97on wrote:
^^^
For the record I personally plan to vote for Jay Taylor and Dave Cook. That said, I just read Mr. Wittman's editorial in the Press and the above post seems to take it out of context. His point in the editorial was the say that not having previously served in local government did not automatically make you less qualified than local incumbents to serve in Township government. Whereas the older quotes and those from his website are simply saying he'd apply his experience in local government as one reference point for his job in state government. That's not quite the same thing. I don't believe anyone who read his full editorial would walk away believing that there's no value in referencing pass public service experience when running for a state or national position.
Just saying. Again, personally I think Dave and Jay have done a great job and I hope to look forward to them continuing to do so.
I just re-read Wayne's letter as well and, out of the context of my actual question to the challengers, you have a good point. I agree with Mr. Wittman that you should not have to be an incumbent to be deemed qualified for office. However, Wayne's characterization of my question is inaccurate.
My question to the challengers was, how many municipal meetings had they attended, or boards and committees had they volunteered for before they declared their candidacy? I believe the challengers should take the time to learn how Cranbury works prior to drawing the conclusion that they can run the Township more efficiently. I believe if you want to lead, you should prepare yourself to lead. I'll bet Mr. Wittman would agree with me on that, too, which is probably why he chose to re-frame my question in his letter to the press.
I agree with that. While I don't think attending previous meetings is an absolute prerequisite to local office, it does demonstrate a commitment to the position you're seeking. And I personally would find it hard to criticize the positions the current TC members were taking on issues without fully understanding the facts and circumstances which would seem hard to do without sitting in on some of the public process.
anon-6103
Posted: Sat, Oct 20 2012, 7:06 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Candidates Night
anon-97on wrote:
^^^
For the record I personally plan to vote for Jay Taylor and Dave Cook. That said, I just read Mr. Wittman's editorial in the Press and the above post seems to take it out of context. His point in the editorial was the say that not having previously served in local government did not automatically make you less qualified than local incumbents to serve in Township government. Whereas the older quotes and those from his website are simply saying he'd apply his experience in local government as one reference point for his job in state government. That's not quite the same thing. I don't believe anyone who read his full editorial would walk away believing that there's no value in referencing pass public service experience when running for a state or national position.
Just saying. Again, personally I think Dave and Jay have done a great job and I hope to look forward to them continuing to do so.
I just re-read Wayne's letter as well and, out of the context of my actual question to the challengers, you have a good point. I agree with Mr. Wittman that you should not have to be an incumbent to be deemed qualified for office. However, Wayne's characterization of my question is inaccurate.
My question to the challengers was, how many municipal meetings had they attended, or boards and committees had they volunteered for before they declared their candidacy? I believe the challengers should take the time to learn how Cranbury works prior to drawing the conclusion that they can run the Township more efficiently. I believe if you want to lead, you should prepare yourself to lead. I'll bet Mr. Wittman would agree with me on that, too, which is probably why he chose to re-frame my question in his letter to the press.
anon-97on
Posted: Sat, Oct 20 2012, 6:01 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Candidates Night
^^^
For the record I personally plan to vote for Jay Taylor and Dave Cook. That said, I just read Mr. Wittman's editorial in the Press and the above post seems to take it out of context. His point in the editorial was the say that not having previously served in local government did not automatically make you less qualified than local incumbents to serve in Township government. Whereas the older quotes and those from his website are simply saying he'd apply his experience in local government as one reference point for his job in state government. That's not quite the same thing. I don't believe anyone who read his full editorial would walk away believing that there's no value in referencing pass public service experience when running for a state or national position.
Just saying. Again, personally I think Dave and Jay have done a great job and I hope to look forward to them continuing to do so.
Experience Matters-6103
Posted: Sat, Oct 20 2012, 1:22 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Candidates Night
A Tale of Two Wittman's...
In this week's Cranbury Press, party politician Wayne Wittman had this to say about the value of experience with local government...
Quote:
"it really has no bearing at all"
Yet, State Assembly Candidate Wayne Wittman has this to about the value of his experience in government...
Quote:
As a local Mayor, I worked hard to keep property taxes low and spending under control. I will bring that same fight to Trenton..."
Mr. Wittman's web site goes on to say...
Quote:
Wayne Wittman is the experienced, local leader that will fight for us in Trenton. A devoted public servant, community leader and family man, Former Cranbury Mayor and Township Committeeman Wayne Wittman will help get New Jersey moving...
When it comes to our Township Committee, I agree with Candidate Wittman- experience matters.
To clarify, at candidates night I asked the challengers how many municipal meetings they had ATTENDED, or boards or committees they had volunteered for, before they declared their candidacy. I believe it is logical to expect the challengers to have taken the time to learn how Cranbury government works, BEFORE declaring that they can do it better. In fact, most if not all, of the current Township Committeemen, attended municipal budget and planning meetings in advance of declaring their candidacies. If the current challengers attended meetings or were involved with municipal government before deciding to run, this was not evident in their answers.
In short, we have 4 candidates applying for 2 jobs as Township Committeeman- 2 have experience and have done a great job and two seem less prepared to lead at this time. Which two will you choose?
I hope you choose to value experience. I hope you choose Jay Taylor and Dave Cook.
Dave Mauger
anon-4269
Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 5:03 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Candidates Night
Isn't it nice that we can have a TC with different view points 3-2 or 4-1 votes and then instead of being angry can turn around and move on. How many towns do we see where the government doesn't do anything because politics get in the way or people get hard feelings stopping all work?
Republican for Jay-129n
Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 4:29 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Candidates Night
If Tom was elected, he would have to excuse himself from voting on Petty Road since it would be a conflict of interest. Tom and Cindy just don't get it. If they had attended a budget meeting, they would understand what the TC is doing, why and how. BTW, this TC does not always agree with one another, but they listen and finally do their best for all residents of Cranbury.
anon-97on
Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 11:25 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Candidates Night
anon-6o5s wrote:
Petty Issue-6906 wrote:
One issue from candidates night that begs clarification is Petty Road. Despite their stated intention to cut spending, both Tom and Cindy seemed to strongly support re-doing Petty Road immediately; ahead of other priorities and at an expense of $1 million plus.
I didn't want to put Tom and Cindy on the spot at candidates night, but I would like them to take a moment to answer the following questions:
What makes Petty Road a priority over other projects (like downtown sidewalks or sidewalks to Shadow Oaks)?
How are we going to cut more spending if we start by adding $1 million dollar project to the budget?
Thanks in advance.
I am not in favor of Tom and Cindy, but re-paving Petty RD is far more important than sidewalks. I hope Dave and Jay understand this.
Do you happen to live on Petty Road?
Why is it far more important to re-pave Petty that to provide safe pedestrian access from the second largest population center in the Town to downtown and the school? It would seem the latter would benefit more residents and is long overdue. I am in no way taking away from the benefits of re-paving Petty, just challenging the objective logic of your statement.
And I don't live in Shadow Oaks either BTW...
anon-97on
Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 11:22 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Candidates Night
outsider-q1sq wrote:
The one thing that anyone who really knows Cranbury realizes is "If it isn't on Main Street, it doesn't matter". The powers that be have always put their efforts and OUR money toward "The Village" and quite frankly they really could care less about the rest of the taxpaying community!
I don't buy this. First of all your implication is that "the powers that be" are a unified when in fact there have been multiple waves of TC members quite sharply opposed to each other's priorities over the last 10 years.
But you can also find all kinds of appropriations and efforts not related to Main Street from the current TC. Tree plantings, farmland preservation, and new sidewalks to link large neighborhoods to downtown all are examples of off-Main initiatives. Not to mention the bulk of their focus on the rezoning was about trying to stimulate development of the commercial and industrial zones on the other side of Route 130. It's silly to imply they only care about Main Street.
That said, there continues to be a goal to stimulate Main Street as a commercial center to raise local tax revenue and job opportunities. So it's appropriate they would put some energy behind it.
And, BTW, I don't live anywhere near Main Street.
anon-12s0
Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 9:36 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Candidates Night
The TC had a grant opportunity for school kids safety. I understand from Mr. Mulligan that the Board of Ed also supported this grant. So if the grant is received there is no cost to the town. But, if the grant is not received the tax payers will not fund the work.
On Petty Rd. the cost would be from our tax dollars and over 1 million.
I think our TC should pursue every grant possible. I don't see a grant application as a priority statement, but rather taking advantage of an opportunity to help the town.
anon-6o5s
Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 9:20 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Candidates Night
Petty Issue-6906 wrote:
One issue from candidates night that begs clarification is Petty Road. Despite their stated intention to cut spending, both Tom and Cindy seemed to strongly support re-doing Petty Road immediately; ahead of other priorities and at an expense of $1 million plus.
I didn't want to put Tom and Cindy on the spot at candidates night, but I would like them to take a moment to answer the following questions:
What makes Petty Road a priority over other projects (like downtown sidewalks or sidewalks to Shadow Oaks)?
How are we going to cut more spending if we start by adding $1 million dollar project to the budget?
Thanks in advance.
I am not in favor of Tom and Cindy, but re-paving Petty RD is far more important than sidewalks. I hope Dave and Jay understand this.
anon-12s0
Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 9:20 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Candidates Night
I disagree. Show facts.
Taylor and Cook along with the rest of the TC have worked hard and are still working hard to get grants to finish the sidewalks to Shadow Oaks. However, similar to down town the TC made it clear the work depends on grants. They won't sacrifice the budget and our tax bill. They have worked with the county to preserve farmland. They are looking to do Brickyard road.
outsider-q1sq
Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 8:46 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Candidates Night
The one thing that anyone who really knows Cranbury realizes is "If it isn't on Main Street, it doesn't matter". The powers that be have always put their efforts and OUR money toward "The Village" and quite frankly they really could care less about the rest of the taxpaying community!
anon-011q
Posted: Fri, Oct 19 2012, 7:19 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Candidates Night
So far, only Cook and Taylor visited my home in Shadow Oaks...