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publius	Posted: Tue, Dec 22 2009, 12:29 am EST    Post subject: Re: Middlesex County creates trust fund for homeless Guest wrote: publius wrote: Guest wrote: publius wrote: Guest wrote: Quote: It’s called Social Darwinism and I bet you call yourself a Christian --- I’ll see you in church Sunday!! Not sure I understand your point. The government deciding for you (by force) what charities, missions and outreach you MUST contribute to is one thing. People giving from their hearts out of love for one another and to the charities and missions they personally believe in and support is another. You can be against government redistribution of wealth and still be a Christian. The two are not mutually exclusive. You can even believe in the same goal as the government (helping people with housing, food, etc.) and not believe the government is the most effective and efficient method of achieving those goals. AHEM! It seems that someone needs to return to Sunday School! The Jesus that I know of preached about helping others, not about what tax bracket they belonged in. Just another "Christian" revisionist who warps the facts to suit their own agenda? I recall a passage about a camel through the eye of a needle. Ay..........Ebenezer??? First, I don't understand the Christian bashing from you or the poster in the other thread it is rather insulting to me. Then you attempt to try and tell the poster above that he/she is wrong. Are you saying the only way for someone to truly give is through government taxes and charity is meaningless, because that is your statement since the post your responding to is saying give to charity. I don't remember in the Bible any apostle, Jesus or anyone else advocating for more taxes as a means to helping others in addition to or in lieu of charity. You can do as I do and give through charity where more money per dollar will go to the cause. Plus, i wonder if your view is government only how much you do give to chairty anyway. Romans 13:5-7: Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor. In terms of your camel through the eye of a needle comment Matthew 19:24, it does not follow with and pay all your taxes to the government. So please don't bash Christians who believe in charity and then try and cite passage to fit your agenda. So if the Bible says to pay your taxes and don't complain about it........................why do your types insist on complaining about it? Just another case of obeying the passages that you agree with? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM???????????????????????????? You really need to learn comprehension skills. Though that would mean you would not have as much fun. There is a difference between paying taxes and then paying additional taxes. There is a difference between wanting increased taxes and feeling that taxes should not be increased. You can increase taxes and spend it on war does that mean increasing taxes is good? I am far far from rich, but I will gladly make the contributions I do to my church to St. Judes, ALS and TASK then have that same money end up going into additional taxes. Unfortunately, you can't understand what people write. Which is why you're posts have the attitude they do. You ARE an expert at splitting hairs...............I'll give you that much.
Hank Kalet	Posted: Mon, Dec 21 2009, 3:38 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Middlesex County creates trust fund for homeless As a rule, I try not to post to this forum because I do not feel it is my place. But I thought it important, given that someone has opted to accuse me of posting anonymously, to set the record straight: If you do not see my name attached to a posting, you can be assured that I had nothing to do with it. I do not believe in anonymous postings and I do not post without my name -- whether here or elsewhere. Feel free to disagree with any editorial we run, any column I write, or anything I say in my blog. Feel free to criticize me personally or professionally. Do it here, do it in the comment section of our Web site or on my blog, write me a letter to the editor. Just do not accuse me of things I would never do. Hank Kalet hkalet@centraljersey.com 609-874-2166
Guest	Posted: Wed, Dec 16 2009, 1:47 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Middlesex County creates trust fund for homeless publius wrote: Guest wrote: publius wrote: Guest wrote: Quote: It’s called Social Darwinism and I bet you call yourself a Christian --- I’ll see you in church Sunday!! Not sure I understand your point. The government deciding for you (by force) what charities, missions and outreach you MUST contribute to is one thing. People giving from their hearts out of love for one another and to the charities and missions they personally believe in and support is another. You can be against government redistribution of wealth and still be a Christian. The two are not mutually exclusive. You can even believe in the same goal as the government (helping people with housing, food, etc.) and not believe the government is the most effective and efficient method of achieving those goals. AHEM! It seems that someone needs to return to Sunday School! The Jesus that I know of preached about helping others, not about what tax bracket they belonged in. Just another "Christian" revisionist who warps the facts to suit their own agenda? I recall a passage about a camel through the eye of a needle. Ay..........Ebenezer??? First, I don't understand the Christian bashing from you or the poster in the other thread it is rather insulting to me. Then you attempt to try and tell the poster above that he/she is wrong. Are you saying the only way for someone to truly give is through government taxes and charity is meaningless, because that is your statement since the post your responding to is saying give to charity. I don't remember in the Bible any apostle, Jesus or anyone else advocating for more taxes as a means to helping others in addition to or in lieu of charity. You can do as I do and give through charity where more money per dollar will go to the cause. Plus, i wonder if your view is government only how much you do give to chairty anyway. Romans 13:5-7: Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor. In terms of your camel through the eye of a needle comment Matthew 19:24, it does not follow with and pay all your taxes to the government. So please don't bash Christians who believe in charity and then try and cite passage to fit your agenda. So if the Bible says to pay your taxes and don't complain about it........................why do your types insist on complaining about it? Just another case of obeying the passages that you agree with? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM???????????????????????????? You really need to learn comprehension skills. Though that would mean you would not have as much fun. There is a difference between paying taxes and then paying additional taxes. There is a difference between wanting increased taxes and feeling that taxes should not be increased. You can increase taxes and spend it on war does that mean increasing taxes is good? I am far far from rich, but I will gladly make the contributions I do to my church to St. Judes, ALS and TASK then have that same money end up going into additional taxes. Unfortunately, you can't understand what people write. Which is why you're posts have the attitude they do.
publius	Posted: Wed, Dec 16 2009, 1:06 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Middlesex County creates trust fund for homeless Guest wrote: publius wrote: Guest wrote: Quote: It’s called Social Darwinism and I bet you call yourself a Christian --- I’ll see you in church Sunday!! Not sure I understand your point. The government deciding for you (by force) what charities, missions and outreach you MUST contribute to is one thing. People giving from their hearts out of love for one another and to the charities and missions they personally believe in and support is another. You can be against government redistribution of wealth and still be a Christian. The two are not mutually exclusive. You can even believe in the same goal as the government (helping people with housing, food, etc.) and not believe the government is the most effective and efficient method of achieving those goals. AHEM! It seems that someone needs to return to Sunday School! The Jesus that I know of preached about helping others, not about what tax bracket they belonged in. Just another "Christian" revisionist who warps the facts to suit their own agenda? I recall a passage about a camel through the eye of a needle. Ay..........Ebenezer??? First, I don't understand the Christian bashing from you or the poster in the other thread it is rather insulting to me. Then you attempt to try and tell the poster above that he/she is wrong. Are you saying the only way for someone to truly give is through government taxes and charity is meaningless, because that is your statement since the post your responding to is saying give to charity. I don't remember in the Bible any apostle, Jesus or anyone else advocating for more taxes as a means to helping others in addition to or in lieu of charity. You can do as I do and give through charity where more money per dollar will go to the cause. Plus, i wonder if your view is government only how much you do give to chairty anyway. Romans 13:5-7: Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor. In terms of your camel through the eye of a needle comment Matthew 19:24, it does not follow with and pay all your taxes to the government. So please don't bash Christians who believe in charity and then try and cite passage to fit your agenda. So if the Bible says to pay your taxes and don't complain about it........................why do your types insist on complaining about it? Just another case of obeying the passages that you agree with? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM????????????????????????????
iamawino	Posted: Tue, Dec 15 2009, 9:45 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Middlesex County creates trust fund for homeless LOL, can we all just get along and agree that food is a basic necessity of life and those who have some extra non perishable food in our pantries will drop them off at our food drive, 128 North Main Street. I PROMISE it will get put into the right hands, not the government, the truly needy who just need a helping hand. Thank you in advance, Keith
Guest	Posted: Tue, Dec 15 2009, 7:45 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Middlesex County creates trust fund for homeless Peter Connolley wrote: I posted that comment. So I suggest you take whatever issue you have with Dan and let it go. Just because you have an issue with faith and choose to make your own ignorant views made in this forum does not mean we have to accept it. ops!
Peter Connolley	Posted: Tue, Dec 15 2009, 7:31 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Middlesex County creates trust fund for homeless I posted that comment. So I suggest you take whatever issue you have with Dan and let it go. Just because you have an issue with faith and choose to make your own ignorant views made in this forum does not mean we have to accept it.
Guest	Posted: Tue, Dec 15 2009, 7:21 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Middlesex County creates trust fund for homeless Guest wrote: publius wrote: Guest wrote: Quote: It’s called Social Darwinism and I bet you call yourself a Christian --- I’ll see you in church Sunday!! Not sure I understand your point. The government deciding for you (by force) what charities, missions and outreach you MUST contribute to is one thing. People giving from their hearts out of love for one another and to the charities and missions they personally believe in and support is another. You can be against government redistribution of wealth and still be a Christian. The two are not mutually exclusive. You can even believe in the same goal as the government (helping people with housing, food, etc.) and not believe the government is the most effective and efficient method of achieving those goals. AHEM! It seems that someone needs to return to Sunday School! The Jesus that I know of preached about helping others, not about what tax bracket they belonged in. Just another "Christian" revisionist who warps the facts to suit their own agenda? I recall a passage about a camel through the eye of a needle. Ay..........Ebenezer??? First, I don't understand the Christian bashing from you or the poster in the other thread it is rather insulting to me. Then you attempt to try and tell the poster above that he/she is wrong. Are you saying the only way for someone to truly give is through government taxes and charity is meaningless, because that is your statement since the post your responding to is saying give to charity. I don't remember in the Bible any apostle, Jesus or anyone else advocating for more taxes as a means to helping others in addition to or in lieu of charity. You can do as I do and give through charity where more money per dollar will go to the cause. Plus, i wonder if your view is government only how much you do give to chairty anyway. Romans 13:5-7: Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor. In terms of your camel through the eye of a needle comment Matthew 19:24, it does not follow with and pay all your taxes to the government. So please don't bash Christians who believe in charity and then try and cite passage to fit your agenda. nice post dan using that other email account again teabaggers unite!!!
Guest	Posted: Tue, Dec 15 2009, 7:40 am EST    Post subject: Re: Middlesex County creates trust fund for homeless publius wrote: Guest wrote: Quote: It’s called Social Darwinism and I bet you call yourself a Christian --- I’ll see you in church Sunday!! Not sure I understand your point. The government deciding for you (by force) what charities, missions and outreach you MUST contribute to is one thing. People giving from their hearts out of love for one another and to the charities and missions they personally believe in and support is another. You can be against government redistribution of wealth and still be a Christian. The two are not mutually exclusive. You can even believe in the same goal as the government (helping people with housing, food, etc.) and not believe the government is the most effective and efficient method of achieving those goals. AHEM! It seems that someone needs to return to Sunday School! The Jesus that I know of preached about helping others, not about what tax bracket they belonged in. Just another "Christian" revisionist who warps the facts to suit their own agenda? I recall a passage about a camel through the eye of a needle. Ay..........Ebenezer??? First, I don't understand the Christian bashing from you or the poster in the other thread it is rather insulting to me. Then you attempt to try and tell the poster above that he/she is wrong. Are you saying the only way for someone to truly give is through government taxes and charity is meaningless, because that is your statement since the post your responding to is saying give to charity. I don't remember in the Bible any apostle, Jesus or anyone else advocating for more taxes as a means to helping others in addition to or in lieu of charity. You can do as I do and give through charity where more money per dollar will go to the cause. Plus, i wonder if your view is government only how much you do give to chairty anyway. Romans 13:5-7: Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor. In terms of your camel through the eye of a needle comment Matthew 19:24, it does not follow with and pay all your taxes to the government. So please don't bash Christians who believe in charity and then try and cite passage to fit your agenda.
Guest	Posted: Tue, Dec 15 2009, 7:29 am EST    Post subject: Re: Middlesex County creates trust fund for homeless Guest wrote: Guest wrote: another tax. more taking of my money to give to somebody else who didn't earn it. Some of the happiest countries in the World pay >50% in income taxes. And well above 10% in VAT. I hope you "earned" your money.... And so, if you saw 100 people jumping off a bridge to their death, but they looked happy would you advocating doing it to? The 3 dollars for this cause to me is fine. However, I do question why it can be part of the sales tax we already pay when we sell our home.
Guest	Posted: Tue, Dec 15 2009, 7:23 am EST    Post subject: Re: Middlesex County creates trust fund for homeless What if the government required you to pay a $3 fee, of which $1 would go to services for the homeless, $1 would pay for administration of the services and $1 would go to politically connected cronies? Would you still viilify those who are opposed?
Guest	Posted: Tue, Dec 15 2009, 6:37 am EST    Post subject: Re: Middlesex County creates trust fund for homeless Guest wrote: another tax. more taking of my money to give to somebody else who didn't earn it. Some of the happiest countries in the World pay >50% in income taxes. And well above 10% in VAT. I hope you "earned" your money....
publius	Posted: Tue, Dec 15 2009, 12:45 am EST    Post subject: Re: Middlesex County creates trust fund for homeless Guest wrote: Quote: It’s called Social Darwinism and I bet you call yourself a Christian --- I’ll see you in church Sunday!! Not sure I understand your point. The government deciding for you (by force) what charities, missions and outreach you MUST contribute to is one thing. People giving from their hearts out of love for one another and to the charities and missions they personally believe in and support is another. You can be against government redistribution of wealth and still be a Christian. The two are not mutually exclusive. You can even believe in the same goal as the government (helping people with housing, food, etc.) and not believe the government is the most effective and efficient method of achieving those goals. AHEM! It seems that someone needs to return to Sunday School! The Jesus that I know of preached about helping others, not about what tax bracket they belonged in. Just another "Christian" revisionist who warps the facts to suit their own agenda? I recall a passage about a camel through the eye of a needle. Ay..........Ebenezer???
Guest	Posted: Mon, Dec 14 2009, 10:05 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Middlesex County creates trust fund for homeless Guest wrote: Always fun to watch this forum go off the rails. I fail to see what any of this has to do with Cranbury. If you want to argue conservative versus liberal social welfare, there are literally hundreds of sites you can visit and bloviate to your hearts content. Why can't this site concentrate on Cranbury issues? Agree. I actually like our town because politics don't really enter the equation locally. It's too bad we have to make the forum this way.
Guest	Posted: Mon, Dec 14 2009, 10:00 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Middlesex County creates trust fund for homeless Always fun to watch this forum go off the rails. I fail to see what any of this has to do with Cranbury. If you want to argue conservative versus liberal social welfare, there are literally hundreds of sites you can visit and bloviate to your hearts content. Why can't this site concentrate on Cranbury issues?
Guest	Posted: Mon, Dec 14 2009, 9:50 pm EST    Post subject: Re: Middlesex County creates trust fund for homeless Guest wrote: Guest wrote: Quote: It’s called Social Darwinism and I bet you call yourself a Christian --- I’ll see you in church Sunday!! Not sure I understand your point. The government deciding for you (by force) what charities, missions and outreach you MUST contribute to is one thing. People giving from their hearts out of love for one another and to the charities and missions they personally believe in and support is another. You can be against government redistribution of wealth and still be a Christian. The two are not mutually exclusive. You can even believe in the same goal as the government (helping people with housing, food, etc.) and not believe the government is the most effective and efficient method of achieving those goals. You present very primitive thinking and logic – very scalia-like. Did you have catholic schooling? Thank god the men who created out constitution weren’t so white and black in their thinking and that subsequent years have brought us enlightened men and women who have legislated letting Judeo/Christian principles guide their way. Our government is created by the laws and court rulings that men and women have passed and interpreted, We been through Social Darwinism in the 18th century and the charities for the worthy and this type of thing was abandoned early last century. Let’s not make this mistake again. Hank, Hank, Hank... Isn't your weekly column enough? Why not at least post here under your own name. But I guess anonymously you can more easily spew the kind of hate that Rush and Beck like to peddle. But I bet you tell yourself it’s okay to be a hate-monger as long as you're doing it for the left, because that makes it a "just war." And just like in the Press, you're posts don't reflect an opinion anyone actually living in Cranbury would hold. There are plenty of honestly good, church going people here who do much good work for the disadvantaged and support charities. But no one who lives here secretly spews hate against other religions or anyone who doesn't agree with their radical politics the way you seem to, over there where you live in South Brunswick. Maybe that is why you really support merger. You want South Brunswick to absorb Cranbury because you have Cranbury envy. Sorry, man, you'll have to earn it...