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[quote="Guest"][quote="Guest"]I think the Stand-Alone Library is just one idea for this property. The town certainly needs the additional parking spaces that PNC allowed visitors to use - maybe one of the reasons for this is to preserve these parking places. Maybe it is to build a "village green", which would be a wonderful addition to our town. Maybe the town sees this as an investment opportunity - buy the building and lease it out. There are so many things that could be done... why not talk about it?[/quote] Why do it in closed session then? I would think there should be very few things the Township Committee should do in closed session, like discuss performance of city officials, etc., and everything else should be open to the public. Talking is fine, but this Township has a habit of quickly jumping into action despite being in crushing debt as it is. The Township acts like a dumb consumer who loads his credit card up buying things he didn't need then is surprised when there are consequences.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Apr 23 2008, 2:25 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Special Township Committee Meeting on Monday, April 21, 2008</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest3 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I would argue that purchasing the PNC Bank and the parking lot is as important as preserving open space. We could preserve our downtown...and make it vibrant with a great public library. <br />You already pay for library operational costs, including the staff... it would not be an additional cost. Yes, buying it would cost, but if we could get it for under a million with part as a gift from PNC, then it would be very affordable. The library would have operational costs paid each year through what we are already paying. Yes, these is renovation costs, but money can be raised specially for this and it could be done in stages.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Great, I didn't realize there was already a detailed plan that desmonstrated definitively that there would be no incremntal operating costs for the new Library. Why has it not been shared with the tax payers yet then? Or if there isn't one, then you are just making wild assumptions which is a very dangerous way for a Township to proceed with making public policy. <br /> <br />I would think, given the current COAH crisis, that spending money acquiring large tracks of land that currently are zoned for development and instead preserving them to reduce the viable space for furture development should be a higher priority to the Township than taking one little lot that is already in a protested zone to build a redundant facility.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Apr 23 2008, 1:59 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Special Township Committee Meeting on Monday, April 21, 2008</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">How are we preserving our downtown by buying a building? A parking lot is not a cause for making a million dollar purchase. <br /> <br />The library is already down town and easily walkable from any area on main street. <br /> <br />The downtown is in the protected historic district. Therefore, any building changes or modifications including usage must be approved by the town. Our historical preservation committee will not allow the building to be modfied that is out of character with the rest of the down town area. So we're not preserving the character of a building. <br /> <br />We're not drawing additional people in to down town because there is already a library and moving the building adds no new additional services. <br /> <br />Yes, we do pay operational costs, but there are new costs and raised costs due to the additional building. It is not as simple as simply picking up staff and operational expenses and plopping them down in a new building. <br /> <br />Currently we have shared expenses with the school and therefore we are reducing our overall tax spend. We'd still have to pay for those items in the school through an increase in school taxes and now we compound the issue by having to support an additional building. Not only that, but as I stated before we'll be having to increase library staff regardless of your opinions because the librarians do help out everybody and the town and school will argue for increased help. But, even if they don't that is a small and minor expense compared to all the other operational expenses that will be newly incurred and the loss of tax revenue. <br /> <br />Addtional examples, there are computers and internet service required in two buildings now as opposed to one and you have to pay for those services in both locations and the licensing that comes with being in separate locations. Where as today you have one building with one set of operating costs. <br /> <br />There are major additional costs so arguing that there are not and that it will not have any additional operating cost is inaccurrate and wrong. <br /> <br />If you can tell me that the Friends of Cranbury Library today has the money to buy and renovate the building and to cover the additional costs of operating the building then I will be the first one to stand up and support the purchase. <br /> <br />If we had no library I could see the justification. <br /> <br />If we needed room in the school today and the cost for an addition was greater than the cost of buying PNC I could see the justification. <br /> <br />If you want me to contribute tax money because it is a nice to have then I will not do that because of the ramifications it will have on our taxes, on our position against COAH, on our debt obligations and the financial security of the town. Plus, I;d rather preserve farmland and prevent housing that will impact or taxes than spend money on a library or ball park. <br /> <br />So tell me in real terms how we are making a financially sound move on buying the building as opposed to a wish list move.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest3</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Apr 23 2008, 1:33 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Special Township Committee Meeting on Monday, April 21, 2008</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I would argue that purchasing the PNC Bank and the parking lot is as important as preserving open space. We could preserve our downtown...and make it vibrant with a great public library. <br />You already pay for library operational costs, including the staff... it would not be an additional cost. Yes, buying it would cost, but if we could get it for under a million with part as a gift from PNC, then it would be very affordable. The library would have operational costs paid each year through what we are already paying. Yes, these is renovation costs, but money can be raised specially for this and it could be done in stages.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Apr 23 2008, 12:53 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Special Township Committee Meeting on Monday, April 21, 2008</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">The staff also does duplicate duty for school children and residents. Anyone who visits the library sees this. If we separate the library then you have to staff the library at the school with more assistants or keep the staff there and staff a municipal library. A school library with one librarian is too tough to manage.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Currently there are 2 separate staffs at the library. The school has a librarian and an aid. During school hours only the school staff serves the students. After school closes, the public library staff serves all patrons in the library.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />So you're telling me that the librarians I see who are paid by the town as municipal librarians turn down children's requests for help and say ask the school librarian? <br /> <br />Seriously, the librarians all help the children and adults during the day. While the money for wages may come from different pots they serve both groups and are very nice to do so. <br /> <br />The staff though is only a tiny, portion of the overall expense allocation. The issue of operating and maintaining two libraries, plus the reduced rateable, plus the cost to purchase is the big issue. <br /> <br />Your arguement for a library is predicated on there being two staffs. However, it ignores the cost to run a library and no one has seemed to make the point on how it will not cost a signifigant amount of money.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>me</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Apr 23 2008, 12:21 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Special Township Committee Meeting on Monday, April 21, 2008</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">It is not an issue of being something that would be nice in the town. Rather it is an issue of being an unaffordable situation. I want a BMW 7 series, but I realize the cost of buying it means incurring more debt that I am uncomfortable managing. So I do without. That is the same way the TC should be looking at the library. It would be a nice to have, but several million dollars in debt and looming COAH costs, it would be an irresponsable decision by the TC to pursue it.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Well said. My view exactly! <br /> <br />BTW, I can afford a BMW 7 series (sorry for the bragging here), but I drive a 1994 Acura.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Apr 23 2008, 11:27 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Special Township Committee Meeting on Monday, April 21, 2008</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Where would cranbury get the money to pay for the PNC bank property. Do we have any surplus or would the town be taking it from the extra tax earmarked for farmland preservation? Plus don't we already own land that has been held for a future library site when we need it? People - Check our township plan.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Apr 23 2008, 11:20 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Special Township Committee Meeting on Monday, April 21, 2008</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">The staff also does duplicate duty for school children and residents. Anyone who visits the library sees this. If we separate the library then you have to staff the library at the school with more assistants or keep the staff there and staff a municipal library. A school library with one librarian is too tough to manage.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Currently there are 2 separate staffs at the library. The school has a librarian and an aid. During school hours only the school staff serves the students. After school closes, the public library staff serves all patrons in the library.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Apr 23 2008, 10:08 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Special Township Committee Meeting on Monday, April 21, 2008</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">The staff also does duplicate duty for school children and residents. Anyone who visits the library sees this. If we separate the library then you have to staff the library at the school with more assistants or keep the staff there and staff a municipal library. A school library with one librarian is too tough to manage. <br /> <br />It is not the case of teh school having a good deal or not. It is the case of the town having an efficient means of operating. <br /> <br />The cost of maintenance and software licensing and insurance still hold true because you need to equip two libraries instead of one. As does the operational costs since this is a new building that was not town owned prior. So our taxes will increase not only to accomodate the new library, but also to account for the impact to the school library. <br /> <br />On top of this the The rateable from PNC estimated at 27,000 a year goes away. So your lowering our tax revenue, while increasing our expenses. <br /> <br />No matter how people want to spin it to justify the purchase, the truth is this will cost the town a lot of money at time when it simply cannot be afford more debt. <br /> <br />It is not an issue of being something that would be nice in the town. Rather it is an issue of being an unaffordable situation. I want a BMW 7 series, but I realize the cost of buying it means incurring more debt that I am uncomfortable managing. So I do without. That is the same way the TC should be looking at the library. It would be a nice to have, but several million dollars in debt and looming COAH costs, it would be an irresponsable decision by the TC to pursue it.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>guest3</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed, Apr 23 2008, 8:09 am EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Special Township Committee Meeting on Monday, April 21, 2008</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Our library is actually a municipal library housed in a school, currently with only a verbal agreement between the two. We have the public library staff including three professional librarians and also some library assistants, and then we have a school librarian. The school has had a very good situation for a very long time. No, the school library would not go away. The actual library space is owned by the school.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Apr 22 2008, 8:32 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Special Township Committee Meeting on Monday, April 21, 2008</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>guest3 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">"You would have operational costs- Electric, water, insurance, garbage for 2 libraries. Staffing costs for two libraries because you need librarians in both locations. There are also maintenance costs for two libraries periodicals and books and even software licensing." <br /> <br />We already pay operational costs for those items....by NJ Law public libraries are supported by us already. We have a school librarian and school staff...plus a wonderful new public library director. The staff is already there.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />And if you have two libraries you pay it twice, one for the school and one for the town. The school library does not go away.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Apr 22 2008, 7:45 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Special Township Committee Meeting on Monday, April 21, 2008</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest* wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I am surprised by Mr. Brennan's being opposed to a library in the downtown area. This would bring a lot of people to the businesses as they patronize the library. Our downtown needs an anchor, instead of just New Hope type of shops. Wouldn't the parking in town be essential? Isn't keeping our downtown vibrant important to us so that we do not just become a bedroom community?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />What is your basis for this claim? <br /> <br />I don't believe it would bring any incremental business at all. Show me the study or facts that suggest otherwise and I am willing to change my mind. But it is not a fair assumption.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>guest3</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue, Apr 22 2008, 7:43 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Special Township Committee Meeting on Monday, April 21, 2008</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">"You would have operational costs- Electric, water, insurance, garbage for 2 libraries. Staffing costs for two libraries because you need librarians in both locations. There are also maintenance costs for two libraries periodicals and books and even software licensing." <br /> <br />We already pay operational costs for those items....by NJ Law public libraries are supported by us already. We have a school librarian and school staff...plus a wonderful new public library director. The staff is already there.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>wcody</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon, Apr 21 2008, 4:02 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Special Township Committee Meeting on Monday, April 21, 2008</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Moving forward with the purchase of the PNC bank building and making a new library which could backfire on Cranbury. <br /> <br /><ul>With the push for consolidation of smaller towns in NJ, building a new library may be a great example of wasteful duplication of services when we have already have a good library and there is a brand new library being built a few miles away in Plainsboro that we will be able to use. <br /> <br />It will be a difficult arguement to make that we cannot afford the new affordable housing obligations from COAH but we can afford a new library.</ul></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Guest</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon, Apr 21 2008, 3:09 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Special Township Committee Meeting on Monday, April 21, 2008</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">As of 12/07 Cranbury has an outstanding debt of $23,556,681.66 . Shouldn't we balance our books before adding more debt of a NEW library? <br /> <br />Is our school overflowing now? Do we really need to build a library before we even need it? It's great to plan for the future, that is if you have the money. The TC is not be fiscally responsible by spending ...spending... spending... We have a serious debt problem that needs to be addressed. Plus, the town already owns land that is in our "town plan" for a future site of a library that I think is next to the new ball park.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>James</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon, Apr 21 2008, 2:28 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Special Township Committee Meeting on Monday, April 21, 2008</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Guest3 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">One point that has not been brought up is the fact that the municipal library may be asked to leave the present location due to growing school population and the need for a multiple use space (school library that also serves as classrooms). Also, there is the worry about school safety as the library is open to the public. When the library was built we were about half the size we are now. Now as we approach 4000 residents in town and think that we may be over that soon, we need to plan for the future.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Actually, when the school library was built and for a long time after there was no library in Monroe so their residents came to Cranbury's library. So there was actually a higher utilization and stranger rate at that time than there is now. As the other poster stated the librarians do a very solid job, the teachers don't leave the children alone during school hours and the door to the school is locked preventing strangers from gaining entrance to the class rooms.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>James</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon, Apr 21 2008, 2:25 pm EDT<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Special Township Committee Meeting on Monday, April 21, 2008</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I was talking with someone the other day about our taxes increasing and they said, "Well, we moved from WW so there is still room in Cranbury's tax structure." That seems to me to be the point many here are making in advocating for the PNC library. Instead of saying we need to keep taxes in check, people are saying well look at WW and we can increase taxes because we're not as bad off as WW is today. So let's buy the PNC Bank building. <br /> <br />To me that logic is flawed. Towns should be looking to make informed financial decisions and be looked at in a positive manner for keeping a low tax rate. <br /> <br />I haven't seen one arguement that justifies an expense of 1 million plus for this building. Would I like a stand alone library, sure. However, not when it means increasing taxes during a recession. With the cost of taxes increasing because of the revaluation and the overall cost of living expenses increasing I do not see justification to make people pay more in taxes today or for the town to be fiscally irresponsible and take on more debt.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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