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[quote="Guest II"][quote="Guest"][quote="Guest"][quote="Guest"][quote="Guest"]A place on 130 to get a cheap cup of coffee convienently will have the rooster crowing for sure[/quote] What you don't enjoy paying $4.00 for a cup of coffee??? Cock A Doodle Doo[/quote] Doesn't Teddy's already offer a cheap, convenient, alternative place to get a cup of coffee?[/quote] I will not eat at Teddy's, it just does not look like a clean place.[/quote] I agree. Teddy's is old and dingy. I've tried their food before. I thought they were a little pricey for what they offered. I've tried their breakfast sandwiches a couple of times and thought they were chintzy on the bacon. I'd rather go to a regular diner then there. Then, you have the issue of parking. Fuggetabout it![/quote]
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JD
Posted: Thu, Jul 15 2010, 6:04 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Can Cranbury Apply This Thinking?
Guest wrote:
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7-11 was on a dangerous spot. I support business on 130 and do not support the 7-11 location there. The other denials were against the current Master Plan which means variances needed to be granted. Once that happens you create a precedent that means the town is now open to development we may not want or feel appropriate.
These issues do need to be addressed, but through the course of reviewing the master plan which is occurring right now.
How is the triangle a dangerous spot? Or is it that you thought your house might be affected by lights on the building?
I am not the first poster but I agree with him/her on virtually all points. There are legit safety (and quality of life) concerns with the 7-11 project as it was proposed. I live close to the site and was happy to see that the variances were not granted. I support business and retail development provided the positives outweigh the negatives. I expect the master plan revision will carefully address the issues of retail development off Main St.
JD
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jul 15 2010, 6:03 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Can Cranbury Apply This Thinking?
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
7-11 was on a dangerous spot. I support business on 130 and do not support the 7-11 location there. The other denials were against the current Master Plan which means variances needed to be granted. Once that happens you create a precedent that means the town is now open to development we may not want or feel appropriate.
These issues do need to be addressed, but through the course of reviewing the master plan which is occurring right now.
How is the triangle a dangerous spot? Or is it that you thought your house might be affected by lights on the building?
I live in Shadow Oaks which is about as far as possible from that spot. And I do support rateables and that includes redeveloping 130. However, I drive by that spot every day to the Turnpike. The planned exit and entrance were onto 130 which also happens to have a light right there making it very difficult and also increasing the likliehood for an accident. There is also a development across the street with kids and no matter how much a parent does I can guarantee we'll have kids running across 4 lanes to get a slurpee. I would have done it as a kid and I am sure kids today are no different.
The spot would have also required a lot of variances to fit the store on the property because of the size they wanted and that also means that precedent is set for other uses on 130 which may be problematic. Further, they also presented at the DRC having wanted to have a police sub station at the store.
It was not a good fit.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jul 15 2010, 4:49 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Can Cranbury Apply This Thinking?
Guest wrote:
7-11 was on a dangerous spot. I support business on 130 and do not support the 7-11 location there. The other denials were against the current Master Plan which means variances needed to be granted. Once that happens you create a precedent that means the town is now open to development we may not want or feel appropriate.
These issues do need to be addressed, but through the course of reviewing the master plan which is occurring right now.
How is the triangle a dangerous spot? Or is it that you thought your house might be affected by lights on the building?
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jul 15 2010, 3:26 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Can Cranbury Apply This Thinking?
It is just amazing some people still cling the the delusion that there is a parking problem in Cranbury. Yet every time they are asked to give specific examples they never can. Then others give specific examples of how there isn't a problem and they still persist in their stubborn misconception.
It comes down to what constitutes a problem. If parking is a "problem" when you can't always get a spot directly in front of the door, then yeah we have a parking problem. But name a place that doesn't have this "problem." It's like saying any place where the temperature rises above 30 degrees has a heat problem.
I can't think of a single other place that has less of a parking problem than Cranbury. It's such a pleasure. When I list for out-of-towners the great things about this little community one of them is always how easy parking is. Even on parade, fireworks or Cranbury Day it is easy. No place else can say that about their most crowded days. The other day I had to park a blcok away from where I was going. Shocker. Rare. But still 10x better than anywhere else. Geez, if you actually measure the distance you have to walk from the Mall parking lot to your store, I guarantee you it would be further than the worse case ever in Cranbury. Get some perspective.
Guest II
Posted: Thu, Jul 15 2010, 2:31 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Can Cranbury Apply This Thinking?
Guest wrote:
Guest II wrote:
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
A place on 130 to get a cheap cup of coffee convienently will have the rooster crowing for sure
What you don't enjoy paying $4.00 for a cup of coffee???
Cock A Doodle Doo
Doesn't Teddy's already offer a cheap, convenient, alternative place to get a cup of coffee?
I will not eat at Teddy's, it just does not look like a clean place.
I agree. Teddy's is old and dingy. I've tried their food before. I thought they were a little pricey for what they offered. I've tried their breakfast sandwiches a couple of times and thought they were chintzy on the bacon. I'd rather go to a regular diner then there. Then, you have the issue of parking. Fuggetabout it!
Parking issue for Teddy's? LOL. Now I know this is a joke post.
Aaaahhhh, not quite. LOL
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jul 15 2010, 1:27 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Can Cranbury Apply This Thinking?
7-11 was on a dangerous spot. I support business on 130 and do not support the 7-11 location there. The other denials were against the current Master Plan which means variances needed to be granted. Once that happens you create a precedent that means the town is now open to development we may not want or feel appropriate.
These issues do need to be addressed, but through the course of reviewing the master plan which is occurring right now.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jul 15 2010, 12:38 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Can Cranbury Apply This Thinking?
Guest wrote:
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I do not think that this will work in Cranbury. The town is not business friendly at all. The zoning/planning boards will not allow any retail even on Rt 130 or in the warehouse section. I fear some members have personal agendas as owners of some businesses in town or owners of commercial buildings in the village.
7-11, Wawa, various strip malls have all been denied recently.
It is time to open up along Rt 130 and build it up. More ratables sound good to me. I wish it would work here but fear it will not.
Sounds like you have your own personal agenda.
I stated my personal agenda in my post " More ratables sound good to me".
Why are you attacking my post? Are you a current business owner and are on the planning/zoning boards?
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jul 15 2010, 10:14 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Can Cranbury Apply This Thinking?
Guest II wrote:
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
A place on 130 to get a cheap cup of coffee convienently will have the rooster crowing for sure
What you don't enjoy paying $4.00 for a cup of coffee???
Cock A Doodle Doo
Doesn't Teddy's already offer a cheap, convenient, alternative place to get a cup of coffee?
I will not eat at Teddy's, it just does not look like a clean place.
I agree. Teddy's is old and dingy. I've tried their food before. I thought they were a little pricey for what they offered. I've tried their breakfast sandwiches a couple of times and thought they were chintzy on the bacon. I'd rather go to a regular diner then there. Then, you have the issue of parking. Fuggetabout it!
Parking issue for Teddy's? LOL. Now I know this is a joke post.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jul 15 2010, 10:02 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Can Cranbury Apply This Thinking?
Wow, so many people loving to be negative and not offer their names. I will say I eat there at least once a week and enjoy the family atmosphere. The staff and owners are very friendly, they are very clean as our health inspector in Cranbury is one of the toughest in the area, and they just redesigned their restaurant.
People complain about price, but their prices are lower than the local diners and even Wendy's. And the parking again? Seriously? There is a lot behind Teddy's and a street alongside and in front.
Guest II
Posted: Thu, Jul 15 2010, 9:01 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Can Cranbury Apply This Thinking?
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
A place on 130 to get a cheap cup of coffee convienently will have the rooster crowing for sure
What you don't enjoy paying $4.00 for a cup of coffee???
Cock A Doodle Doo
Doesn't Teddy's already offer a cheap, convenient, alternative place to get a cup of coffee?
I will not eat at Teddy's, it just does not look like a clean place.
I agree. Teddy's is old and dingy. I've tried their food before. I thought they were a little pricey for what they offered. I've tried their breakfast sandwiches a couple of times and thought they were chintzy on the bacon. I'd rather go to a regular diner then there. Then, you have the issue of parking. Fuggetabout it!
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jul 15 2010, 7:58 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Can Cranbury Apply This Thinking?
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
I do not think that this will work in Cranbury. The town is not business friendly at all. The zoning/planning boards will not allow any retail even on Rt 130 or in the warehouse section. I fear some members have personal agendas as owners of some businesses in town or owners of commercial buildings in the village.
7-11, Wawa, various strip malls have all been denied recently.
It is time to open up along Rt 130 and build it up. More ratables sound good to me. I wish it would work here but fear it will not.
Sounds like you have your own personal agenda.
I agree. Its remarkable that so many commercial property owners consider themselves entitled to zoning variances.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jul 15 2010, 7:57 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Can Cranbury Apply This Thinking?
Teddy's reputation for its food and service speaks for itself. It is a pleasure to sit in there and enjoy a well cooked, reasonably priced meal. The staff and owners have warmly greeted their customers for too many years to mention. However, the choice of where one likes to eat is personal so enjoy wherever you like. Time will tell the success of a restaurant.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jul 15 2010, 7:49 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Can Cranbury Apply This Thinking?
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
A place on 130 to get a cheap cup of coffee convienently will have the rooster crowing for sure
What you don't enjoy paying $4.00 for a cup of coffee???
Cock A Doodle Doo
Doesn't Teddy's already offer a cheap, convenient, alternative place to get a cup of coffee?
I will not eat at Teddy's, it just does not look like a clean place.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jul 15 2010, 6:17 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Can Cranbury Apply This Thinking?
Guest wrote:
I do not think that this will work in Cranbury. The town is not business friendly at all. The zoning/planning boards will not allow any retail even on Rt 130 or in the warehouse section. I fear some members have personal agendas as owners of some businesses in town or owners of commercial buildings in the village.
7-11, Wawa, various strip malls have all been denied recently.
It is time to open up along Rt 130 and build it up. More ratables sound good to me. I wish it would work here but fear it will not.
Sounds like you have your own personal agenda.
Guest
Posted: Thu, Jul 15 2010, 12:27 am EDT
Post subject: Re: Can Cranbury Apply This Thinking?
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
A place on 130 to get a cheap cup of coffee convienently will have the rooster crowing for sure
What you don't enjoy paying $4.00 for a cup of coffee???
Cock A Doodle Doo
Cranbury where we all claim to be pro-business while bashing local establishments.
Guest
Posted: Wed, Jul 14 2010, 11:45 pm EDT
Post subject: Re: Can Cranbury Apply This Thinking?
The grass is always greener...
In Plainsboro when they developed the new Village they pressured the strip mall across the street to set ridiculous terms to force out the smaller mom-and-pop stores like the a video store that had been there forever. Then a Blockbuster was put in and lasted only a couple years before closing shop. I know of other mom-and-pops that submitted proposals for the new Village side only to be told they wanted bigger name chains. And many of the chains have since failed. Cold Stone, etc.
In West Windsor they have been in an internal Township civil war over trying to convert the train station area to a village and have gotten nowhere really despite millions in development costs and years of effort. As it stands they have no town center at all.