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Posted: Mon, Aug 3 2009, 4:38 pm EDT Post subject: Re: $40,500 for Barn Restoration Project |
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Again, if the above is the case, I agree. It was the previous poster who said it was a gift in the non-monetary sense. If it is the Historical Societies money, then it is a gift in the money sense. It would just be nice to see the unequivical story laid out. Contrary to an above posters assertion, most people in Town do not know the details. And most people here on this board are not hostile to the project, just asking for more details not only baout its history as a project but what it will be used for. It is not "just like" any other park -- most other parks have functions and specific uses to the community. I think its fair to detail the plan for this barn in this park rather than just ask people to trust the details are under control, just as we were asked to for the Babe Ruth ballpark. |
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Posted: Mon, Aug 3 2009, 5:37 pm EDT Post subject: Re: $40,500 for Barn Restoration Project |
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I think I did a good job explaining the facts of the situation although admittedly I did not realize Howarth barn and Holland house were on different properties. The facts however about relationship are correct. However, anyone is able to go to the town office and clarify my comments. |
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Posted: Tue, Aug 4 2009, 11:07 pm EDT Post subject: Re: $40,500 for Barn Restoration Project |
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Here is some additional clarification of the proposed Barn Project. The NJ Barn Company dismantled the barn from the Haworth property. At that time, the township paid a payment of $24,000 toward the purchase of the barn. The money that was used for the payment was from the $75,000 the Township received from the sale of the Holland House, leaving a balance of $51,000 left from the sale. The barn has been in storage with the NJ Barn Company for a few years at a cost of $225 per month. The balance of the money owed to the NJ Barn Company for repairing, moving the barn timbers to Cranbury and putting them up is $40,500. The foundation, siding, and roofing will be paid for with Society preservation funds and grant funds. The value to Cranbury is that we will have a reconstruction of a 1770 barn and an agricultural museum highlighting the importance of farming to Cranbury's history. |
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Posted: Wed, Aug 5 2009, 7:01 am EDT Post subject: Re: $40,500 for Barn Restoration Project |
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Guest wrote: | I think its fair to detail the plan for this barn in this park rather than just ask people to trust the details are under control, just as we were asked to for the Babe Ruth ballpark. |
Yes, it is fair. But the analogy is wrong. The funds for the park were tax payer funds (county and town) still our tax money. The field was built by the town and the town is/was liable for over runs.
The Society is using their funds to rebuild the barn. They are responsible for over runs, they own the project.
Lastly, it was clear the ballpark was going through and the only support for it was from a few little league parents. No details were ever provided and the closest explanation came a couple of weeks ago, when the history was provided but ended in 2007.
There is a huge difference in where funds come from and who has project ownership. |
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Posted: Wed, Aug 5 2009, 8:48 am EDT Post subject: Re: $40,500 for Barn Restoration Project |
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Guest wrote: | Guest wrote: | I think its fair to detail the plan for this barn in this park rather than just ask people to trust the details are under control, just as we were asked to for the Babe Ruth ballpark. |
Yes, it is fair. But the analogy is wrong. The funds for the park were tax payer funds (county and town) still our tax money. The field was built by the town and the town is/was liable for over runs.
The Society is using their funds to rebuild the barn. They are responsible for over runs, they own the project.
Lastly, it was clear the ballpark was going through and the only support for it was from a few little league parents. No details were ever provided and the closest explanation came a couple of weeks ago, when the history was provided but ended in 2007.
There is a huge difference in where funds come from and who has project ownership. |
So you are saying that the Historical Society is responsible for all overruns and the ongoing costs to maintain it in perpetuity? So when it needs upkeep expense to keep from falling down every few years they will pay, not the Township? No offense, but I think its reasonable to see this on the public record in writing as a binding agreement. If that is not the case then the analogy is perfectly correct. |
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Posted: Wed, Aug 5 2009, 10:54 am EDT Post subject: Re: $40,500 for Barn Restoration Project |
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The history center is town owned and the Society maintains the building. |
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Posted: Wed, Aug 5 2009, 11:04 am EDT Post subject: Re: $40,500 for Barn Restoration Project |
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Great. It sounds fine to me. It is money that belonged to the Historical Society funding it and they agree to pay for all future upkeep. Let's just get it on the public record or whatever else is necessary to commit to that plan and call it a day... |
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Posted: Mon, Aug 24 2009, 3:18 pm EDT Post subject: Re: $40,500 for Barn Restoration Project |
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If the NJ Barn Company is set to reconstruct just the bones of the barn for $40,500, then who will finish it? Will there be a public Request For Quote? and how much more does the architect cost? |
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Posted: Mon, Aug 24 2009, 3:30 pm EDT Post subject: Re: $40,500 for Barn Restoration Project |
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The Historical Society is paying for all work the $40,500 will be used toward the project costs, but the society will be responsible for all costs. I understand that the Society will be making a statement tonight. |
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