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PostPosted: Sun, Aug 22 2010, 7:58 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Mosque at ground zero. Reply with quote

ok so some religious fanatics murder thousands of people and someone wants to build a structure related to that religion on their graves?
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PostPosted: Sun, Aug 22 2010, 8:23 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Mosque at ground zero. Reply with quote

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Anyway, how do you decide how far away from someplace is far away enough? Who decides that?

The building we're talking about was hit by the landing gear of the jet flown into the world Trade Center. How about not that close? How about a yard away for every American killed on 9/11/2001? That would seem about right.


By what is the crieria for what is banned? This community center and prayer room has absolutely nothing to do with the terrorists attacks. So why is it being singled out for banning? There are strip clubs in the area. Gambling dins. Drug dealers working corners. Greasy diners. Or if it has to do with religion, what about synagoges or churches in the area? Why single out the Islamic prayer room when Islam as a whole is not responsible for some fanatic terrorists?
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PostPosted: Sun, Aug 22 2010, 8:30 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Mosque at ground zero. Reply with quote

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ok so some religious fanatics murder thousands of people and someone wants to build a structure related to that religion on their graves?


There is a logic gap in your statement. By your own words, they were fanatics, which means operating outside the mainstream of the religion. There are Christian fanatics as well. Christians recently attempted genocide on millions of Muslims in the former Yugoslavia. Are you as a Christian responsible for that? Does it have absolutely anything to do with your religion? Christian fanatics right here in the USA bomb black churches, bomb Federal buildings, participate in the KKK, murder abortion doctors, etc. So is all of Christianity responsible for these actions? Should we allow no churches anywhere near a place where a Christian commits a crime? That would be pretty restrictive, especially since a vast majority of our serial killers have been Christian and some insisted they were acting on instructions from God. There are hundreds of examples which demonstrate the absurdity of holding an entire religion responsible for the unrelated actions of crazy, evil individuals or fringe organizations who claim to act in accordance with their view of the religion when their actions contradict it. Mainstream Islam is no more violent than mainstream Christianity. Neither should be falsely associated with the atrocious actions of murderers.
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PostPosted: Sun, Aug 22 2010, 9:29 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Mosque at ground zero. Reply with quote

343 wrote:
ok so some religious fanatics murder thousands of people and someone wants to build a structure related to that religion on their graves?


You are using the same twisted "logic" the terrorists use to justify their actions. America stands for freedom. If you can't handle that, you're in the wrong place!
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PostPosted: Mon, Aug 23 2010, 4:06 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Mosque at ground zero. Reply with quote

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Rahim wrote:
Anyway, how do you decide how far away from someplace is far away enough? Who decides that?

The building we're talking about was hit by the landing gear of the jet flown into the world Trade Center. How about not that close? How about a yard away for every American killed on 9/11/2001? That would seem about right.


By what is the crieria for what is banned? This community center and prayer room has absolutely nothing to do with the terrorists attacks. So why is it being singled out for banning? There are strip clubs in the area. Gambling dins. Drug dealers working corners. Greasy diners. Or if it has to do with religion, what about synagoges or churches in the area? Why single out the Islamic prayer room when Islam as a whole is not responsible for some fanatic terrorists?


Strip clubs????????
We could use some of those here in Cranbury!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu, Aug 26 2010, 10:33 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Mosque at ground zero. Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n78BpvaX9N8&feature=related
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PostPosted: Thu, Aug 26 2010, 11:34 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Mosque at ground zero. Reply with quote

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Rahim wrote:
Anyway, how do you decide how far away from someplace is far away enough? Who decides that?

The building we're talking about was hit by the landing gear of the jet flown into the world Trade Center. How about not that close? How about a yard away for every American killed on 9/11/2001? That would seem about right.


By what is the crieria for what is banned? This community center and prayer room has absolutely nothing to do with the terrorists attacks. So why is it being singled out for banning? There are strip clubs in the area. Gambling dins. Drug dealers working corners. Greasy diners. Or if it has to do with religion, what about synagoges or churches in the area? Why single out the Islamic prayer room when Islam as a whole is not responsible for some fanatic terrorists?


Strip clubs????????
We could use some of those here in Cranbury!!!!!!!!!



At least you managed to make this topic relevant to Cranbury.
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PostPosted: Fri, Aug 27 2010, 12:00 am EDT    Post subject: Re: Mosque at ground zero. Reply with quote

Putting the mosque there is just in bad taste that's all. No one is trying to restrict religious freedom. If you want respect, you have to give respect.
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PostPosted: Fri, Aug 27 2010, 12:36 am EDT    Post subject: Re: Mosque at ground zero. Reply with quote

Moderator,
Can you lock this thread? This discussion seems played out. Some people think a mosque within a few blocks of the WTC massacre is bad taste and other people believe America was founded on religious freedom and that blaming an entire population muslims for the despicable act of a few extremist terrorists is unamerican and helps further the cause of the terrorists.

Does anyone have another point to make? If not, please close this circular thread. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri, Aug 27 2010, 8:05 am EDT    Post subject: Re: Mosque at ground zero. Reply with quote

Guest wrote:
Putting the mosque there is just in bad taste that's all. No one is trying to restrict religious freedom. If you want respect, you have to give respect.


I love how the people who say its in bad taste or lacks respect keep avoiding direct questions on why. They either realize that the reasons are inherently bigoted or they can't even consciously express why it is because they have their bigotry rooted in their subconscious. In either case, they were repeatedly and politely asked for an specific explanation as to why it would be disrespectful and all they can come up with is "it just is."

Is it disrespectful if you visit the site where Indians were slaughtered 200 years ago? You have about as much to do with it as the backers of this mosque or Muslims in general do with 9/11.
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PostPosted: Fri, Aug 27 2010, 8:07 am EDT    Post subject: Re: Mosque at ground zero. Reply with quote

It's not even about religious freedom, but simple logic. The backers of the community center have absolutely nothing to do with the terrorists or 9/11 nor do Muslims in general. So it is illogical and nonsense to say their developing something there is disrespectful, unless you say developing anything several blocks from the WTC site is, which no one is saying.
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