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 Posted: Wed, Oct 20 2010, 12:51 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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| Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | No, at the least people save $30 a month at the most people will save a few hundred dollars. |
Have you averaged everyones bill in town? Your statement has no basis what so ever. One earlier poster showed they would only save $7.50 a month. If that is the low number and your $30.00 number is the high then the AVG is $18.75 a month in savings. So please do not state you have the facts when you don't. |
You need reading skills. The person said the most people will save is $20 a month. That is not the average that is the high end. The average savings may be as you say, but that is not the MOST people will save. The majority of people may save that, but others will save more. |
Where are you getting your numbers from? How can you say the majority will save more? Do you know what everyone pays or the level of service they receive.
The answer is no and you are merely stating an opinion that the majority will save more. |
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| Posted: Wed, Oct 20 2010, 1:10 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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| Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | Why have I only heard about this new tax for my trash in the last week? Aren't we voting on this in the next two weeks or so? Do we vote for this when we vote for the Rush Holt and the others? It would have been nice to have known more about this sooner rather then what I am seeing here and hearing from my neighbors around town. It seems as no one really knows what is going on. Why are we even voting on a new trash tax? I don't even use a service at my home I just take my trash neatly in the trunk of my hybred prius to my business outside of town that I own and dispose of it their. |
With all due respect. There were two articles in the Cranbury Press and three discussions at a TC meeting all of which are open and agendas published. Plus, there is a referendum to guage interest in looking at this. This is not binding referendum.
All a yes vote means is yes look at it. A second referendum will be placed on the Nov 2011 ballott to proceed. |
thank you for this information. I did see an article or two in the Cranbury Press and another on here from another local paper. I was also aware of the meeting the town had a week or two ago. My question is how long has our town government been working on this? |
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| Posted: Wed, Oct 20 2010, 1:20 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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| Guest wrote: | | During the holidays we give the driver something for taking good care of us his customers each year. He always tells me he needs to perform and do a good job because we can very easily call another carrier. However as he said to me we probably won't be as lucky if the town goes to a lowest bidder contract with another carrier. Because as he said to me whats the incentive to work harder once they have all of our business and we cant' switch? Once were under contract they have us right where they want us for 2 to 5 years. Even worse as a town we will never be able to go back to individual choice of garbage carriers. Only four seasons will have that luxury since they will be excluded from the tax but still be able to vote for all of us switching to one carrier. |
If Four Seasons can be excluded, will others who do not want town trash service be allowed to be excluded? |
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| Posted: Wed, Oct 20 2010, 1:55 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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We tend to need the garbage more in the winter, with all the holiday stuff and guests and meals, etc., whereas in the summer we aren't even around some of the time. Bottom line is everyone's circumstances will be different.
I've lived in a variety of places. Until we moved to NJ all of them had one-option public-managed garbage pick-up. I have found the service here where I pick and personally contract the service to be much, much better than any of those places. Not only does it give me the freedom to select what kind of service I want and competitive shop, but I have customer leverage. That is, I am free to go elsewhere. Once a single company has a monopoly on city service, I have no power as a customer whatsoever.[/quote]
What you say would be true if you could "competitively shop". The problem is about 10 years ago Midco and Waste Management started buying all of the smaller operations up. I think Township Sanitation was about the last of the Mom and Pop's to be bought up. Then what happened? Immediately prices jumped and continued to climb every year. My Bills are now triple what they were 10 years ago and my pick up is down from twice to once a week.
The reality is we have a choice of three providers who are not price competitive. I would argue that as of 10 years ago you ceased to have any, "power as a consumer whatsoever." |
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| Posted: Wed, Oct 20 2010, 3:59 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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| Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | Why have I only heard about this new tax for my trash in the last week? Aren't we voting on this in the next two weeks or so? Do we vote for this when we vote for the Rush Holt and the others? It would have been nice to have known more about this sooner rather then what I am seeing here and hearing from my neighbors around town. It seems as no one really knows what is going on. Why are we even voting on a new trash tax? I don't even use a service at my home I just take my trash neatly in the trunk of my hybred prius to my business outside of town that I own and dispose of it their. |
With all due respect. There were two articles in the Cranbury Press and three discussions at a TC meeting all of which are open and agendas published. Plus, there is a referendum to guage interest in looking at this. This is not binding referendum.
All a yes vote means is yes look at it. A second referendum will be placed on the Nov 2011 ballott to proceed. |
thank you for this information. I did see an article or two in the Cranbury Press and another on here from another local paper. I was also aware of the meeting the town had a week or two ago. My question is how long has our town government been working on this? |
Sorry, did not understand your question. From talking to TC members it was originally discussed at the budget meeting when the issue of the dump days came up and ways to save that cost. Then Mr. Cook took the initiative with TC backing to explore whether there was a way to eliminate the dump days and also use the town's collective mass to save costs for the residents. This then led to the TC deciding that the residents should have input on whether the trash collection was of interest. The concern was since it impacted all residents not to have a small minority that attend a TC meeting dictate a town decision. So a non-binding referendum would be asked simply asking if the Township wanted people to explore the option and obtain bids.
The referendum was backed by all 5 members so it's not a Rep vs Dem issue. The referendum does not mean we will have collection. Only is it worthwhile to look at doing it. |
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| Posted: Wed, Oct 20 2010, 4:27 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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| Posted: Wed, Oct 20 2010, 4:41 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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Wow, the link poster has a seriously messed up life. It's like that bad Groundhog's Day movie where they keep re-living the same day over and over and can't go forward. This poor person is trappen on tax day, of all things ironically, 2009. They don't seem to realize the rest of the world moved forward. You kind of have to feel sorry for them, it's so pathetic. They also seem to only know how to post that link. You say, "how's the weather" and they post the link. How about those Yankees and they post the link. It's like their stuck in cut-and-paste mode and the rest of their keyboard doesn't work.
Sad. |
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| Posted: Wed, Oct 20 2010, 5:41 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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Kind of like the Mayor's comment myself when talking of last year's opponents...
"members of the Township Committee need to have concrete qualifications for the job as well as a reasonable perspective beyond a narrow (some would say extreme) political ideology."
http://www.davecookonline.com/2009/11/endorsement-by-david-j-stout/
Since I am a Democrat and find both Mr. Cook and Mr. Taylor to be doing a good job I wonder if perhaps I am some dangerous Tea Bagger.
It amazes me how this all goes round and round and is meaningless. Only a small group of of narrow minded people pay attention to this type of stuff. A tea bag post is not going to change my vote and calling someone extreme who I knew all his life won't either.
If I were Mr. Cook, Mr. Cody or Mr. Taylor I'd be laughing at how ridiculous it is for someone to think next year's TC will be extremely political right wing operation. From what I see many of the TC committees are headed by Dem and Rep groupings. Yet the world did not end this year for Cranbury. |
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| Posted: Wed, Oct 20 2010, 5:44 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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Nice endorsement -- and thanks for the work you put in trying to save us and the township some money on our garbage |
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| Posted: Wed, Oct 20 2010, 11:32 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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| I'm voting YES for the TC to look into town managed trash pickup, it seems like we have a garbage truck every night on the streets in Cranbury and its real noisy when those trucks from all the different provider roll through town streets. I think reducing the companies to just a single waste management firm that picks up once a week would make our streets quieter at nights (cept one) and still save me some money. Voting YES. |
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| Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 6:00 am EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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How much does the second container cost? For those receiving pick up twice a week today, the cost would need to be half for me to want to switch to once a week.
Why is the township only considering once an option that is one pick up per week? |
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| Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 8:26 am EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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| guest99 wrote: | How much does the second container cost? For those receiving pick up twice a week today, the cost would need to be half for me to want to switch to once a week.
Why is the township only considering once an option that is one pick up per week? |
The cost is a one time $60.00. The once a week allows for those who only need it once a week to get it and saves everyone money, but allowing for the second container gives everyone on twice a week pick up the same or greater capacity. So this way no one is forced to throw out less trash then they do today and for those with collection no one is penalized. |
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| Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 9:21 am EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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| Guest wrote: | | guest99 wrote: | How much does the second container cost? For those receiving pick up twice a week today, the cost would need to be half for me to want to switch to once a week.
Why is the township only considering once an option that is one pick up per week? |
The cost is a one time $60.00. The once a week allows for those who only need it once a week to get it and saves everyone money, but allowing for the second container gives everyone on twice a week pick up the same or greater capacity. So this way no one is forced to throw out less trash then they do today and for those with collection no one is penalized. |
True you then get to wait a week with smelly overflowing trash on your property. Remember Government can always do it for you just not better. |
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| Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 10:06 am EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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| Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | guest99 wrote: | How much does the second container cost? For those receiving pick up twice a week today, the cost would need to be half for me to want to switch to once a week.
Why is the township only considering once an option that is one pick up per week? |
The cost is a one time $60.00. The once a week allows for those who only need it once a week to get it and saves everyone money, but allowing for the second container gives everyone on twice a week pick up the same or greater capacity. So this way no one is forced to throw out less trash then they do today and for those with collection no one is penalized. |
What are you people throwing out that smells so bad? I always had once a week pick up and never have smells like people think will be the case. Further, let's be clear the government is not doing this, it is still a private contractor. We'd only be saving money by having a bulk contract.
Again, this referendum is simply to look at if it makes sense. I am surprised so many are opposed to simply looking at the issue and getting more detail. They have already said another referendum would take place to implement this. So at that point it makes sense to vote yes or no IMO. Why vote no to simply look at something?
True you then get to wait a week with smelly overflowing trash on your property. Remember Government can always do it for you just not better. |
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