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 Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 10:10 am EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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| Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | guest99 wrote: | How much does the second container cost? For those receiving pick up twice a week today, the cost would need to be half for me to want to switch to once a week.
Why is the township only considering once an option that is one pick up per week? |
The cost is a one time $60.00. The once a week allows for those who only need it once a week to get it and saves everyone money, but allowing for the second container gives everyone on twice a week pick up the same or greater capacity. So this way no one is forced to throw out less trash then they do today and for those with collection no one is penalized. |
True you then get to wait a week with smelly overflowing trash on your property. Remember Government can always do it for you just not better. |
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I typed within the quotes in the post above it should be.
What are you people throwing out that smells so bad? Many people already have once a week and are saying that is fine for them. So those talking of smell must really have something odd they are tossing out. I always had once a week pick up and never have smells like people think will be the case. Further, let's be clear the government is not doing this, it is still a private contractor. We'd only be saving money by having a bulk contract.
Again, this referendum is simply to look at if it makes sense. I am surprised so many are opposed to simply looking at the issue and getting more detail. They have already said another referendum would take place to implement this. So at that point it makes sense to vote yes or no IMO. Why vote no to simply look at something? |
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| Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 10:18 am EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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| Quote: | | True you then get to wait a week with smelly overflowing trash on your property. Remember Government can always do it for you just not better. |
Sorry to chime in again with essentially the same thing I posted two days ago. If you desire more than one pick up a week, this probably doesn't work for you. You should vote no. If you think this is about big government, you are starting to border on being a whack job. This is about using collective buying power to negotiate a better price. There are other sites and issues where you can go off on anti-government rants where they actually make sense. |
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| Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 11:32 am EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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| Guest wrote: | | Quote: | | True you then get to wait a week with smelly overflowing trash on your property. Remember Government can always do it for you just not better. |
Sorry to chime in again with essentially the same thing I posted two days ago. If you desire more than one pick up a week, this probably doesn't work for you. You should vote no. If you think this is about big government, you are starting to border on being a whack job. This is about using collective buying power to negotiate a better price. There are other sites and issues where you can go off on anti-government rants where they actually make sense. |
The money will be collected by Cranbury and to do so Cranbury will have to hire a new "part time" employee which could very easily turn into a full time employee once the billing and complaint issues become apparent. This sounds a lot like bigger government to me and if that makes me a whack job then so be it. Does everyone in town really want to pay for another employee for the town who will cost at least 10k a year to start and then will cost us much more once they are full time and have to then add in benefits and pension. |
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| Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 11:35 am EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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Everyone else around us in New Jersey are trying to do exactly the opposite of what this will do. Every other town and city in NJ is trying to reduce government while we are looking to increase it. Other towns cannot go to each household making their own trash pickup decisions because the residents are already locked into government doing it for them.
That is why we need to vote no and keep trash pick up as free choice for everyone in Cranbury. |
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| Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 11:40 am EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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| Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | Quote: | | True you then get to wait a week with smelly overflowing trash on your property. Remember Government can always do it for you just not better. |
Sorry to chime in again with essentially the same thing I posted two days ago. If you desire more than one pick up a week, this probably doesn't work for you. You should vote no. If you think this is about big government, you are starting to border on being a whack job. This is about using collective buying power to negotiate a better price. There are other sites and issues where you can go off on anti-government rants where they actually make sense. |
The money will be collected by Cranbury and to do so Cranbury will have to hire a new "part time" employee which could very easily turn into a full time employee once the billing and complaint issues become apparent. This sounds a lot like bigger government to me and if that makes me a whack job then so be it. Does everyone in town really want to pay for another employee for the town who will cost at least 10k a year to start and then will cost us much more once they are full time and have to then add in benefits and pension. |
You are really making a large leap here.
- Let's assume we hire a new employee at 10k part time to do billing there are no benefits paid. That is still a savings from the dump days we get rid of having to spend on.
- Why would billing be a concern? The billing is a fixed amount per home. It's not a usage fee. Every home gets the same bill same cost. When the tax bill goes out so does the trash bill. Or maybe we just look at the trash company sending the bill out to the homes and collecting the money. That could be part of what the TC looks at.
- Why are you envisioning massive service issues? People are going to call the company directly and be told to do so. The town is not collecting your trash, whoever the private company is will collect the trash. The company doing so is still a private company not employed by the town. But, let's say you decide to involve the town because you don't want to call the provider. The minimal amount of calls handled I am sure could be done by a current employee. Why do I say this? Because people like yourself want to stay with your provider. The service is not going to change to where garbage fills the street or amounts of pick ups are missed. There will be a service agreement guaranteeing how the service the town is to receive. |
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| Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 11:43 am EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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| Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | Quote: | | True you then get to wait a week with smelly overflowing trash on your property. Remember Government can always do it for you just not better. |
Sorry to chime in again with essentially the same thing I posted two days ago. If you desire more than one pick up a week, this probably doesn't work for you. You should vote no. If you think this is about big government, you are starting to border on being a whack job. This is about using collective buying power to negotiate a better price. There are other sites and issues where you can go off on anti-government rants where they actually make sense. |
The money will be collected by Cranbury and to do so Cranbury will have to hire a new "part time" employee which could very easily turn into a full time employee once the billing and complaint issues become apparent. This sounds a lot like bigger government to me and if that makes me a whack job then so be it. Does everyone in town really want to pay for another employee for the town who will cost at least 10k a year to start and then will cost us much more once they are full time and have to then add in benefits and pension. |
You are correct. It is a massive plot. Go back in your bomb shelter. Remember shoot your neighbors if they try to get in with you. |
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| Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 12:12 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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| Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | Quote: | | True you then get to wait a week with smelly overflowing trash on your property. Remember Government can always do it for you just not better. |
Sorry to chime in again with essentially the same thing I posted two days ago. If you desire more than one pick up a week, this probably doesn't work for you. You should vote no. If you think this is about big government, you are starting to border on being a whack job. This is about using collective buying power to negotiate a better price. There are other sites and issues where you can go off on anti-government rants where they actually make sense. |
The money will be collected by Cranbury and to do so Cranbury will have to hire a new "part time" employee which could very easily turn into a full time employee once the billing and complaint issues become apparent. This sounds a lot like bigger government to me and if that makes me a whack job then so be it. Does everyone in town really want to pay for another employee for the town who will cost at least 10k a year to start and then will cost us much more once they are full time and have to then add in benefits and pension. |
You are really making a large leap here.
- Let's assume we hire a new employee at 10k part time to do billing there are no benefits paid. That is still a savings from the dump days we get rid of having to spend on.
- Why would billing be a concern? The billing is a fixed amount per home. It's not a usage fee. Every home gets the same bill same cost. When the tax bill goes out so does the trash bill. Or maybe we just look at the trash company sending the bill out to the homes and collecting the money. That could be part of what the TC looks at.
- Why are you envisioning massive service issues? People are going to call the company directly and be told to do so. The town is not collecting your trash, whoever the private company is will collect the trash. The company doing so is still a private company not employed by the town. But, let's say you decide to involve the town because you don't want to call the provider. The minimal amount of calls handled I am sure could be done by a current employee. Why do I say this? Because people like yourself want to stay with your provider. The service is not going to change to where garbage fills the street or amounts of pick ups are missed. There will be a service agreement guaranteeing how the service the town is to receive. |
If it is on the tax bill people will call the town offices. If their is an issue with the company the people who paid the tax on their bill will go to the town offices with their issue. If trash is not picked up for some reason who will resolve the issue? The town. Your taking a utopian view of the world. |
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| Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 12:14 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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| Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | Quote: | | True you then get to wait a week with smelly overflowing trash on your property. Remember Government can always do it for you just not better. |
Sorry to chime in again with essentially the same thing I posted two days ago. If you desire more than one pick up a week, this probably doesn't work for you. You should vote no. If you think this is about big government, you are starting to border on being a whack job. This is about using collective buying power to negotiate a better price. There are other sites and issues where you can go off on anti-government rants where they actually make sense. |
The money will be collected by Cranbury and to do so Cranbury will have to hire a new "part time" employee which could very easily turn into a full time employee once the billing and complaint issues become apparent. This sounds a lot like bigger government to me and if that makes me a whack job then so be it. Does everyone in town really want to pay for another employee for the town who will cost at least 10k a year to start and then will cost us much more once they are full time and have to then add in benefits and pension. |
You are correct. It is a massive plot. Go back in your bomb shelter. Remember shoot your neighbors if they try to get in with you. |
No it is not a massive plot oh and you forgot to call me a tea bagger since I disagree with your view. Facts just the facts ma'am |
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| Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 12:28 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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| Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | Quote: | | True you then get to wait a week with smelly overflowing trash on your property. Remember Government can always do it for you just not better. |
Sorry to chime in again with essentially the same thing I posted two days ago. If you desire more than one pick up a week, this probably doesn't work for you. You should vote no. If you think this is about big government, you are starting to border on being a whack job. This is about using collective buying power to negotiate a better price. There are other sites and issues where you can go off on anti-government rants where they actually make sense. |
The money will be collected by Cranbury and to do so Cranbury will have to hire a new "part time" employee which could very easily turn into a full time employee once the billing and complaint issues become apparent. This sounds a lot like bigger government to me and if that makes me a whack job then so be it. Does everyone in town really want to pay for another employee for the town who will cost at least 10k a year to start and then will cost us much more once they are full time and have to then add in benefits and pension. |
You are really making a large leap here.
- Let's assume we hire a new employee at 10k part time to do billing there are no benefits paid. That is still a savings from the dump days we get rid of having to spend on.
- Why would billing be a concern? The billing is a fixed amount per home. It's not a usage fee. Every home gets the same bill same cost. When the tax bill goes out so does the trash bill. Or maybe we just look at the trash company sending the bill out to the homes and collecting the money. That could be part of what the TC looks at.
- Why are you envisioning massive service issues? People are going to call the company directly and be told to do so. The town is not collecting your trash, whoever the private company is will collect the trash. The company doing so is still a private company not employed by the town. But, let's say you decide to involve the town because you don't want to call the provider. The minimal amount of calls handled I am sure could be done by a current employee. Why do I say this? Because people like yourself want to stay with your provider. The service is not going to change to where garbage fills the street or amounts of pick ups are missed. There will be a service agreement guaranteeing how the service the town is to receive. |
If it is on the tax bill people will call the town offices. If their is an issue with the company the people who paid the tax on their bill will go to the town offices with their issue. If trash is not picked up for some reason who will resolve the issue? The town. Your taking a utopian view of the world. |
It's not on the tax bill it is a separate bill. There will be a number to call which is the provider.
How often is your trash not picked up today? I have never had to call even when my own town did the trash pick up. I don't remember any issues years ago when Cranbury had trash service either. |
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| Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 1:44 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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| Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | Quote: | | True you then get to wait a week with smelly overflowing trash on your property. Remember Government can always do it for you just not better. |
Sorry to chime in again with essentially the same thing I posted two days ago. If you desire more than one pick up a week, this probably doesn't work for you. You should vote no. If you think this is about big government, you are starting to border on being a whack job. This is about using collective buying power to negotiate a better price. There are other sites and issues where you can go off on anti-government rants where they actually make sense. |
The money will be collected by Cranbury and to do so Cranbury will have to hire a new "part time" employee which could very easily turn into a full time employee once the billing and complaint issues become apparent. This sounds a lot like bigger government to me and if that makes me a whack job then so be it. Does everyone in town really want to pay for another employee for the town who will cost at least 10k a year to start and then will cost us much more once they are full time and have to then add in benefits and pension. |
You are correct. It is a massive plot. Go back in your bomb shelter. Remember shoot your neighbors if they try to get in with you. |
No it is not a massive plot oh and you forgot to call me a tea bagger since I disagree with your view. Facts just the facts ma'am |
Don't really no what a teabagger is. What this is about is trying to get the lowest cost most efficient trash removal. If this is not lowest cost most efficient for you don't vote for it. But this kneejerk reaction, "Government bad", is idiotic. Government is neither good or bad. Somethings it does fairly well, somethings it does not. To portray this as big government is wierd. This is not a bunch of lifetime Washington Bureaucrats, the government you don't trust are five of your friends and neighbors, who after the election the most senior will have 2 years of experience. Do you think so little of them you don't think they can pull this off? If so, shame on you for not running yourself. Every year the two parties have to beat the bushes to find someone to run.
Another note, look at the rest of the discussions on this site. People braying about constitutional issues and basically having a philosophical pissing match. Local government is not about deep philosophy. It is about pragmatism. It is about trying to get basic services for the township in the most cost effective way. Leave your pro and anti-government positions at the door. Just try to get something done right. |
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| Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 2:00 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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| I just got my bill, I pay $662 per year, one can twice a week, so I can save $400 per year. I am voting yes to look into this. If anything, the actions of the TC to at least explore the idea have helped me as I now plan to seek a better fee, regardless of whether or not the town becomes the service provider. Well done, TC! |
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| Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 3:00 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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| Guest wrote: | | I just got my bill, I pay $662 per year, one can twice a week, so I can save $400 per year. I am voting yes to look into this. If anything, the actions of the TC to at least explore the idea have helped me as I now plan to seek a better fee, regardless of whether or not the town becomes the service provider. Well done, TC! |
I pay 123 a quarter, one can twice a week. This will save me close to 300 bucks. Thanks TC (I mean my local GOVERNMENT) |
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| Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 3:00 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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| Guest wrote: | | I just got my bill, I pay $662 per year, one can twice a week, so I can save $400 per year. I am voting yes to look into this. If anything, the actions of the TC to at least explore the idea have helped me as I now plan to seek a better fee, regardless of whether or not the town becomes the service provider. Well done, TC! |
I suggest you call other providers yourself because your over paying. |
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| Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 3:13 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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| Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | I just got my bill, I pay $662 per year, one can twice a week, so I can save $400 per year. I am voting yes to look into this. If anything, the actions of the TC to at least explore the idea have helped me as I now plan to seek a better fee, regardless of whether or not the town becomes the service provider. Well done, TC! |
I suggest you call other providers yourself because your over paying. |
I pay similar and there is no lower cost option available. You don't know what you're talking about. |
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| Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 3:38 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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| Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | I just got my bill, I pay $662 per year, one can twice a week, so I can save $400 per year. I am voting yes to look into this. If anything, the actions of the TC to at least explore the idea have helped me as I now plan to seek a better fee, regardless of whether or not the town becomes the service provider. Well done, TC! |
I suggest you call other providers yourself because your over paying. |
I pay similar and there is no lower cost option available. You don't know what you're talking about. |
I agree. Same here. I would like the poster who says you can do better to specifically post the company that is true of. When I quoted before there was not another company willing to do the large size can (I believe it is 90 gallons?) twice a week for a better price. |
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| Posted: Thu, Oct 21 2010, 3:49 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Cranbury asking residents if they want a single trash hauler |
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| My bill 127.78 a quarter. |
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