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 Posted: Sat, Dec 18 2010, 9:20 pm EST Post subject: Re: The December 20, 2010 Township Committee meeting agenda |
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| Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | shadow oaks resident wrote: | | many of us that really live in shadow oaks have signed a petition to stop the marking of the easements including everyone who lives next to and adjacent to the easements. |
In other words, those who currently are exclusively monopolizing this public land would like to keep it that way. |
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you live on south main or north main? |
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| Posted: Sun, Dec 19 2010, 1:05 am EST Post subject: Re: The December 20, 2010 Township Committee meeting agenda |
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| Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | shadow oaks resident wrote: | | many of us that really live in shadow oaks have signed a petition to stop the marking of the easements including everyone who lives next to and adjacent to the easements. |
In other words, those who currently are exclusively monopolizing this public land would like to keep it that way. |
Bingo |
you live on south main or north main? |
actually I live in Cranbury green. Where do you live Mr. Nimby? |
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| Posted: Sun, Dec 19 2010, 6:36 am EST Post subject: Re: The December 20, 2010 Township Committee meeting agenda |
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| Guest wrote: | | shadow oaks resident wrote: | | many of us that really live in shadow oaks have signed a petition to stop the marking of the easements including everyone who lives next to and adjacent to the easements. |
Sorry the rest of us would dare intrude on your 40 acre private park. |
There's 40 acres of undeveloped township-owned land back there?
Can we put COAH housing on it? |
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| Posted: Sun, Dec 19 2010, 8:41 am EST Post subject: Re: The December 20, 2010 Township Committee meeting agenda |
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| Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | shadow oaks resident wrote: | | many of us that really live in shadow oaks have signed a petition to stop the marking of the easements including everyone who lives next to and adjacent to the easements. |
Sorry the rest of us would dare intrude on your 40 acre private park. |
There's 40 acres of undeveloped township-owned land back there?
Can we put COAH housing on it? |
There's about 40 homes for sale on main street. Can we buy them and convert the home to multi family COAH housing? |
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| Posted: Sun, Dec 19 2010, 9:00 am EST Post subject: Re: The December 20, 2010 Township Committee meeting agenda |
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| Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | shadow oaks resident wrote: | | many of us that really live in shadow oaks have signed a petition to stop the marking of the easements including everyone who lives next to and adjacent to the easements. |
In other words, those who currently are exclusively monopolizing this public land would like to keep it that way. |
Bingo |
you live on south main or north main? |
I don't live on Main but what is your point? The land is owned by the public and was designated for public use. It's not like they are changing the zoning or something. But somehow you're implying that this public resource should be hoarded by one neighborhood, and a subset of the neighborhood at that, and if you're against that idea it is because you live somewhere else. Well, yeah, that's logical since the people living there are already monopolizing it. Duh. But that's not the same as arguing it makes sense. |
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| Posted: Sun, Dec 19 2010, 10:37 am EST Post subject: Re: The December 20, 2010 Township Committee meeting agenda |
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| Is there a way to get into the public land without passing through private properties? |
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| Posted: Sun, Dec 19 2010, 10:41 am EST Post subject: Re: The December 20, 2010 Township Committee meeting agenda |
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| Rather than making snippy postings, without adding your name, I'd advise actually presenting your concerns at a town council meeting. |
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| Posted: Sun, Dec 19 2010, 4:38 pm EST Post subject: Re: The December 20, 2010 Township Committee meeting agenda |
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| Selfish bastards. Period. |
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| Posted: Sun, Dec 19 2010, 4:54 pm EST Post subject: Re: The December 20, 2010 Township Committee meeting agenda |
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| Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | Guest wrote: | | shadow oaks resident wrote: | | many of us that really live in shadow oaks have signed a petition to stop the marking of the easements including everyone who lives next to and adjacent to the easements. |
Sorry the rest of us would dare intrude on your 40 acre private park. |
There's 40 acres of undeveloped township-owned land back there?
Can we put COAH housing on it? |
There's about 40 homes for sale on main street. Can we buy them and convert the home to multi family COAH housing? |
Yep, but why would we spend money on the land when we already own 40 acreas. Aren't you saying we should all spend money to buy land when we already own 40 acres? Why should I pay for your private nature preserve? Seems to me whining about marking easements may lead to a worse fate. |
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| Posted: Sun, Dec 19 2010, 8:49 pm EST Post subject: Re: The December 20, 2010 Township Committee meeting agenda |
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| Guest wrote: | | Selfish bastards. Period. |
Exclamation point! |
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| Posted: Mon, Dec 20 2010, 2:46 pm EST Post subject: Re: The December 20, 2010 Township Committee meeting agenda |
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| marking the easements is a bad idea who thought of this? |
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| Posted: Mon, Dec 20 2010, 3:13 pm EST Post subject: Re: The December 20, 2010 Township Committee meeting agenda |
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| Guest wrote: | | marking the easements is a bad idea who thought of this? |
Perhaps someone who wants Cranbury residents to be able to use their public resource. What is your alternative suggestion for helping people use it? |
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| Posted: Mon, Dec 20 2010, 3:16 pm EST Post subject: Re: The December 20, 2010 Township Committee meeting agenda |
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I'd like to explore this public land. How do I find out where it is and where the borders are? I looked at the Township zoning plan here and it doesn't seem to clearly demark it.
http://www.cranburytownship.org/zoning_map_2008.pdf
Is there a map somewheer that shows it? Where can you enter and exit it? |
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| Posted: Mon, Dec 20 2010, 10:50 pm EST Post subject: Re: The December 20, 2010 Township Committee meeting agenda |
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| When will the easements be marked? |
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| Posted: Tue, Dec 21 2010, 8:56 pm EST Post subject: Re: The December 20, 2010 Township Committee meeting agenda |
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| How will they be marked? |
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| Posted: Tue, Dec 21 2010, 11:25 pm EST Post subject: Re: The December 20, 2010 Township Committee meeting agenda |
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| Guest wrote: | This is the difficulty- Change.
When the development was put in they created easements so people could go back there. If that was not intended and rather it was to be preserved for those who live in front of the property then the easements would not have been created.
Then people forgot, didn't where to use them, didn't know they existed or time just went on and it became private back yard land.
Now, someone has said wait a second this land is public and the public should know how to legally enter it since it is tax payer owned.
So that is the problem- Change back to the original premise that people were supposed to be able to get access when people have become accustomed to it not being used.
I am curious if residents who live there have any solution on how to let people know how to access the land other than don't do it. |
The reality is that Cranbury obtained these 40 acres only after the developer completed Shadow Oaks. The builder no longer had any use for it since the land was unable to be developed any further, therefore deeded it to the town. Easements where mapped out to show how to get access to these wetlands, which I believe have been on file in town since the land was obtained. Anyone interested in gaining access to the 40 acres could have referenced this information at anytime over the past 25 plus years by viewing maps on file in Town Hall. The major difference between the Shadow Oaks easements and the other easements in town (ex. Maplewood, the Green, Leidtke) are that the Shadow Oaks easements fall on private property, while every other easement falls on public property which is owned and maintained by the town. Public access via private property introduces liability issues for the homeowner, as well as questions about the police and fire depts obtaining access in cases of emergency. I believe the residents of Shadow Oaks are not denying the public access to this area however, marking these areas without thoroughly understanding all the implications would be irresponsible and negligent. The bottom line is that Cranbury is not short of open public space and park like areas for any resident to enjoy as they see fit. If a resident or the public is truly interested in accessing these 40 acres, view the map in Town Hall to find access points. Is it really necessary to disrupt private property to add yet another "public" open area to the town, does this pro really out-weigh the con in this instance? |
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