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Posted: Wed, Dec 29 2010, 10:13 am EST Post subject: Re: NJ Republican governor Christie slammed for Disney vacation during snow stor |
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I severely dislike him as a Governor but this is silly. The only thing wrong with him taking his family on a vacation to Disneyworld over the holidays is the poor judgement in picking a week when the entire world is there. It is a miserable time to be in the parks (even worse at Disneyland where they actually had to turn people away because they reached capacity).
First of all, I'm sure they planned the vacation before the snow storm. Second, its just snow, not even close to the worst storm we've had in recent years. Third, the clean-up is a local and county job for the most part, and what state areas there are like the Turnpike were working great pretty quickly in my experience. |
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Posted: Wed, Dec 29 2010, 10:23 am EST Post subject: Re: NJ Republican governor Christie slammed for Disney vacation during snow stor |
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I think what people are most upset about is that he and the Lt. Governor took off at the same time. The reason we elected a Lt. was to be here when the Gov. could not. |
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Posted: Wed, Dec 29 2010, 1:53 pm EST Post subject: Re: NJ Republican governor Christie slammed for Disney vacation during snow stor |
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Typically, when a state of emergency is declared governors or big city mayors drop everything and return home. My gripe isn't about this trip, a vacation with your family over the Christmas holiday is hard to begrudge someone, but where was he in August and September. He campaign for every two-bit republican candidate across this country. Last I checked the budget still isn't balanced and the pension fund underpayment has gone from an unbelieveable 44 billion to a scary 56 billion under his watch.
He needs to stay in the state and get something done. |
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Posted: Wed, Dec 29 2010, 6:02 pm EST Post subject: Re: NJ Republican governor Christie slammed for Disney vacation during snow stor |
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Guest wrote: | Typically, when a state of emergency is declared governors or
big city mayors drop everything and return home. My gripe isn't about this trip, a vacation with your family over the Christmas holiday is hard to begrudge someone, but where was he in August and September. He campaign for every two-bit republican candidate across this country. Last I checked the budget still isn't balanced and the pension fund underpayment has gone from an unbelieveable 44 billion to a scary 56 billion under his watch.
He needs to stay in the state and get something done. |
All the magic in Disney isn't enough to wipe out decades of over-spending and over-promises in one year. |
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Posted: Wed, Dec 29 2010, 7:33 pm EST Post subject: Re: NJ Republican governor Christie slammed for Disney vacation during snow stor |
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Guest wrote: | Typically, when a state of emergency is declared governors or big city mayors drop everything and return home. My gripe isn't about this trip, a vacation with your family over the Christmas holiday is hard to begrudge someone, but where was he in August and September. He campaign for every two-bit republican candidate across this country. Last I checked the budget still isn't balanced and the pension fund underpayment has gone from an unbelieveable 44 billion to a scary 56 billion under his watch.
He needs to stay in the state and get something done. |
And not further screw the middle class in New Jersey |
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Posted: Wed, Dec 29 2010, 10:42 pm EST Post subject: Re: NJ Republican governor Christie slammed for Disney vacation during snow stor |
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Guest wrote: | Typically, when a state of emergency is declared governors or big city mayors drop everything and return home. My gripe isn't about this trip, a vacation with your family over the Christmas holiday is hard to begrudge someone, but where was he in August and September. He campaign for every two-bit republican candidate across this country. Last I checked the budget still isn't balanced and the pension fund underpayment has gone from an unbelieveable 44 billion to a scary 56 billion under his watch.
He needs to stay in the state and get something done. |
How many years have you been in the teachers union now? |
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Posted: Wed, Dec 29 2010, 10:49 pm EST Post subject: Re: NJ Republican governor Christie slammed for Disney vacation during snow stor |
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Guest wrote: | Guest wrote: | Typically, when a state of emergency is declared governors or big city mayors drop everything and return home. My gripe isn't about this trip, a vacation with your family over the Christmas holiday is hard to begrudge someone, but where was he in August and September. He campaign for every two-bit republican candidate across this country. Last I checked the budget still isn't balanced and the pension fund underpayment has gone from an unbelieveable 44 billion to a scary 56 billion under his watch.
He needs to stay in the state and get something done. |
How many years have you been in the teachers union now? |
So any poster who criticizes Christie must be a teacher? I voted for the guy, am not and have never been a teacher and don't have any relatives or close friends who are and I think he sucks as a Governor. |
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Posted: Wed, Dec 29 2010, 11:18 pm EST Post subject: Re: NJ Republican governor Christie slammed for Disney vacation during snow stor |
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So any poster who criticizes Christie must be a teacher? I voted for the guy, am not and have never been a teacher and don't have any relatives or close friends who are and I think he sucks as a Governor. |
I agree the teacher assumption was a bit of a stretch (not my post), but I don't understand how you voted for him and now think he sucks. He's pretty much doing exactly what he said he would do. |
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Posted: Wed, Dec 29 2010, 11:58 pm EST Post subject: Re: NJ Republican governor Christie slammed for Disney vacation during snow stor |
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Guest wrote: | Guest wrote: | Typically, when a state of emergency is declared governors or big city mayors drop everything and return home. My gripe isn't about this trip, a vacation with your family over the Christmas holiday is hard to begrudge someone, but where was he in August and September. He campaign for every two-bit republican candidate across this country. Last I checked the budget still isn't balanced and the pension fund underpayment has gone from an unbelieveable 44 billion to a scary 56 billion under his watch.
He needs to stay in the state and get something done. |
How many years have you been in the teachers union now? |
I am not a teacher. I am not a union member. I am not complaining about how Christie deals with teacher;;s or anyone else. I am complaining that the budget isn't balanced and the pension obligations are mushrooming. We can fire all of the teacher's and the state will still go bankrupt if we don't balance the budget and address the pension shortfall.
If you don't admit this, you know nothing about the dire straits facing this state. |
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Posted: Thu, Dec 30 2010, 12:09 am EST Post subject: Re: NJ Republican governor Christie slammed for Disney vacation during snow stor |
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Guest wrote: | Guest wrote: |
So any poster who criticizes Christie must be a teacher? I voted for the guy, am not and have never been a teacher and don't have any relatives or close friends who are and I think he sucks as a Governor. |
I agree the teacher assumption was a bit of a stretch (not my post), but I don't understand how you voted for him and now think he sucks. He's pretty much doing exactly what he said he would do. |
With all do respect, he hasn't done much at all. Economically the state is the same disaster area that it was a year ago. He hasn't stopped the bleeding yet. Maybe worse he hasn't told us how he plans on paying off the pension system. If he balances the budget and is able to take care of the pension fiasco, I will be his biggest fan. But as of yet he has done nothing. |
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Posted: Thu, Dec 30 2010, 12:23 am EST Post subject: Re: NJ Republican governor Christie slammed for Disney vacation during snow stor |
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Guest wrote: | Guest wrote: |
So any poster who criticizes Christie must be a teacher? I voted for the guy, am not and have never been a teacher and don't have any relatives or close friends who are and I think he sucks as a Governor. |
I agree the teacher assumption was a bit of a stretch (not my post), but I don't understand how you voted for him and now think he sucks. He's pretty much doing exactly what he said he would do. |
Not really. It seems more like he’s auditioning for a Presidential run with stunts rather than real policy.
He waits until school districts would have already completed budgets to make the State-mandated deadlines for voting before announcing his cuts and the stunt about encouraging voters to reject them unless the teachers agree to contractual roll backs. If his goal was real policy why not give the districts time to really do something about it and why not work on reducing the state-mandates that burden the schools? Instead he makes a showy statement without having to do any of the real work of reducing actual costs, despite the fact that state-mandates are a huge and disproportionate part of local budgets. In the case of Cranbury they make up over 35% of our budget yet the state contributes 0%. That’s not real fiscal conservative policy, just show.
His response to the train tunnel expansion is another example. The economics associated with improving transit to/from New York hugely outweigh the costs of the project, even more so with the billions we were getting from the Feds and NY state via the Port Authority. Even still, the idea of reigning in costs on the project or finding another way to simplify the project is great. But the showy cancellation was not. The idea that the state doesn’t have money while it’s still spending billions is silly. Yet again Christie settled for a statement rather than policy. He left it to Bloomberg to actually suggest doing something about it, Bloomberg who actually does stuff instead of just making sound bites.
This is my disappointment with Christie. Name one actual example of real, meaningful policy Christie has crafted, negotiated and overcome obstacles to make happen? I want less talk, less grand standing and more actual effort. A real roll-up-your-sleeves State budget reduction, not gimmicks that put all the burden on townships, counties and school districts. Almost everything he has “accomplished” is to tell other’s how to clean up their houses without doing anything about his own. |
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Posted: Thu, Dec 30 2010, 9:00 am EST Post subject: Re: NJ Republican governor Christie slammed for Disney vacation during snow stor |
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Your response clears everything up. It appears you are tenured with at least 10 years into the union.
Guest wrote: | Guest wrote: | Guest wrote: | Typically, when a state of emergency is declared governors or big city mayors drop everything and return home. My gripe isn't about this trip, a vacation with your family over the Christmas holiday is hard to begrudge someone, but where was he in August and September. He campaign for every two-bit republican candidate across this country. Last I checked the budget still isn't balanced and the pension fund underpayment has gone from an unbelieveable 44 billion to a scary 56 billion under his watch.
He needs to stay in the state and get something done. |
How many years have you been in the teachers union now? |
So any poster who criticizes Christie must be a teacher? I voted for the guy, am not and have never been a teacher and don't have any relatives or close friends who are and I think he sucks as a Governor. |
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Posted: Thu, Dec 30 2010, 9:07 am EST Post subject: Re: NJ Republican governor Christie slammed for Disney vacation during snow stor |
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I real fiscal conservative in the Governor's office would be working to drive down the huge burden of state-mandated costs on local townships, schools and counties, not just telling them to while not changing a thing. A true conservative would be leaving most governing at the local level instead of dictating from on high. So far Christie seems like a fraud coming from the perspective of a true conservative. He loves to yell and pose but the only thing he does is say no or unilaterally tell others to do all the work. Any dope could do that, especially when its politically popular. Let's see him really lead by working with the Legislature to tackle the hard issues of state spending. Then maybe I'll be impressed. So far he's a major disappointment. |
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Posted: Thu, Dec 30 2010, 10:13 am EST Post subject: Re: NJ Republican governor Christie slammed for Disney vacation during snow stor |
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A real conservative, unlike Christie, would be for small government and mostly local control and fiscal responsibility for issues. Instead Christie likes to dictate from the top without backing up policy with money. The cap on district school administrator salaries is a good example. I applaud the idea of keeping salaries down but when the state provides zero dollars, that is for the local voters and governments to decide. You can't call a state that mandates massive amounts on local budgets for everything from transportation to libraries a fiscally conservative one. But Christie has done nothing about it. He only seems to take on issues where he has unilateral authority, and anyone in his position could do that. It doesn't take charisma or leadership or intelligence to dictate what others should do then leave all the actual work to them.
He's a fraud so far. I would support a real fiscal conservative but he's not it. |
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Posted: Thu, Dec 30 2010, 1:34 pm EST Post subject: Re: NJ Republican governor Christie slammed for Disney vacation during snow stor |
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Guest wrote: | Guest wrote: | Typically, when a state of emergency is declared governors or big city mayors drop everything and return home. My gripe isn't about this trip, a vacation with your family over the Christmas holiday is hard to begrudge someone, but where was he in August and September. He campaign for every two-bit republican candidate across this country. Last I checked the budget still isn't balanced and the pension fund underpayment has gone from an unbelieveable 44 billion to a scary 56 billion under his watch.
He needs to stay in the state and get something done. |
How many years have you been in the teachers union now? |
Interesting, instead of responding to the points, you change the subject. I guess your argument is pretty weak huh? |
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