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PostPosted: Fri, May 27 2011, 9:05 pm EDT    Post subject: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding Reply with quote

Article from the Patch.

http://eastwindsor.patch.com/articles/cranbury-to-crack-down-on-speeding


Speeders in Cranbury, this is your warning.

That’s the message the Township Committee and police department are trying to get across to drivers who do not obey the rules of the road.

“Basically, the message to speeders is simply that we take this violation very seriously, and we are going to continue to enforce the law,” Committeeman Jay Taylor said at the committee’s Monday night meeting.

In April, there were a total of 58 speeding summonses written, as compared to March’s 11, February’s 22 and January’s seven summonses issued. Taylor attributed the spike in summonses to the fact that the weather is getting nicer and more people are out and about.

To curtail those who are in a hurry, Cranbury is planning its second annual “Slow Down in Our Town” campaign. Residents and businesses will be asked to display a “Slow Down in Our Town” sign on their front lawns. The signs will be removable.

Another measure that the township will unveil is the return of solar-powered electronic signs that further implore speeders to ease off the gas.

Police and town officials will also speak with neighbors in an effort to find out where speeding has become a concern. The next step would be patrolling those areas, with a focus on North and South Main Street. Police will also continue bicycle patrols throughout Cranbury.

Taylor said last year’s campaign was a success and that there is no hidden agenda. “This is a pure safety issue and is not monetary. The revenue for tickets goes directly to Plainsboro so our concern is speeding and safety,” he said.

Reached after the meeting, Chief Rickey Vargas said the program exists to protect pedestrians.

"Cranbury is a unique walking community with the school, ice cream shop, pizzeria and bagel store. The community generates a lot of traffic," he said. "The program brings awareness by focusing on different traffic problems and different areas of the town by the utilization of resident participation through the use of signs and our message board."

He added that anyone with questions about the program or who is interested in participating in it my hosting signs can contact the Cranbury Police Traffic Safety Department at 609-395-0031.
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PostPosted: Sun, Jun 5 2011, 5:04 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding Reply with quote

Good hopefully they will start writing tickets for illegal u-turns on Main.
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PostPosted: Sun, Jun 5 2011, 8:47 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding Reply with quote

How about the PD getting off north and south main street and curbing the Golf Cart nightmare on Petty Road where some one of the child drivers is going to get injured along with their passengers. I have seen the PD just pass them by and take no action. There are at least 4 Golf carts that the kids are misusing as vehicles, with parents approval, and this is definitely a hazard for them and the driving public that uses that road.
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PostPosted: Tue, Jun 7 2011, 10:05 am EDT    Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding Reply with quote

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How about the PD getting off north and south main street and curbing the Golf Cart nightmare on Petty Road where some one of the child drivers is going to get injured along with their passengers. I have seen the PD just pass them by and take no action. There are at least 4 Golf carts that the kids are misusing as vehicles, with parents approval, and this is definitely a hazard for them and the driving public that uses that road.


Why not call the station and report it? The police are out doing patrols all over so far as I can see. Or why not be neighborly and call the parents and ask them to stop their kids from riding in the street because of the danger before you involve the police.
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PostPosted: Thu, Jun 16 2011, 1:33 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding Reply with quote

If you set the speed limit reasonably at the 85th percentile instead of 25 mph on a main road because the residents want it, I have no problem with a speeding crackdown : D
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PostPosted: Thu, Jun 16 2011, 2:27 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding Reply with quote

Ikons697 wrote:
If you set the speed limit reasonably at the 85th percentile instead of 25 mph on a main road because the residents want it, I have no problem with a speeding crackdown : D

The road in question on this thread is 35mph.
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PostPosted: Fri, Jun 17 2011, 10:34 am EDT    Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding Reply with quote

Plainsboro Township thanks you all for speeding and sending it there way.
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PostPosted: Fri, Jun 17 2011, 12:42 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding Reply with quote

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Plainsboro Township thanks you all for speeding and sending it there way.

or "Their" way.
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PostPosted: Fri, Jun 17 2011, 2:47 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding Reply with quote

How about instead of just sticking ugly signs all over town the cops just start handing out speeding tickets?
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PostPosted: Fri, Jun 17 2011, 3:02 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding Reply with quote

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How about instead of just sticking ugly signs all over town the cops just start handing out speeding tickets?


If you read the article that is exactly what the cops are doing. This is another means of enforcement. So why not appreciate the work being done to curb down speeding?
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PostPosted: Fri, Jun 17 2011, 3:39 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding Reply with quote

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How about instead of just sticking ugly signs all over town the cops just start handing out speeding tickets?

Another brain surgeon checking in.
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PostPosted: Sat, Jun 18 2011, 11:03 am EDT    Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding Reply with quote

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Ikons697 wrote:
If you set the speed limit reasonably at the 85th percentile instead of 25 mph on a main road because the residents want it, I have no problem with a speeding crackdown : D

The road in question on this thread is 35mph.
What is this, old trenton road? Is the 85th percentile speed limit 35 mph? No, its more like 55 mph. Studies show that posting limits far below the 85th percentile hurts safety, and that 85th percentile speed limits are safer. State engineering guidelines, MUTCD, etc.

I support speeding crackdowns when the speed limit is set at the 85th percentile, not when there is an arbitrary politically set limit like 50 mph on a freeway for example and drivers are simply driving for the conditions. I'm probably going to be insulted for saying this, but all the engineering literature supports this, etc. If people want to deny it, too bad.
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PostPosted: Sat, Jun 18 2011, 3:27 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding Reply with quote

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Ikons697 wrote:
If you set the speed limit reasonably at the 85th percentile instead of 25 mph on a main road because the residents want it, I have no problem with a speeding crackdown : D

The road in question on this thread is 35mph.
What is this, old trenton road? Is the 85th percentile speed limit 35 mph? No, its more like 55 mph. Studies show that posting limits far below the 85th percentile hurts safety, and that 85th percentile speed limits are safer. State engineering guidelines, MUTCD, etc.

I support speeding crackdowns when the speed limit is set at the 85th percentile, not when there is an arbitrary politically set limit like 50 mph on a freeway for example and drivers are simply driving for the conditions. I'm probably going to be insulted for saying this, but all the engineering literature supports this, etc. If people want to deny it, too bad.

I agree with you, Old Trenton should not be 35mph. People who live on that road complained and the County reduced the limit to 35mph. It stinks and is very slow to drive on that road but there does not appear to be anything we can do. Statutorily it can only be 45, 35 25 mph. They could not just lower it to 45 since it would be little change. 35 is too low, I would prefer the 50 of course but if it has to be lowered 40mph would have been ok.
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PostPosted: Sat, Jun 18 2011, 4:20 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding Reply with quote

Statutorily it can actually be whatever the engineering study reveals (which was an 85th percentile speed of around 55 mph); the statute specifically recommends that speed limits be established by engineering studies (the statutes are typically so that 25 doesnt need to be posted on every neighborhood street or 50 doesnt need to be posted on every rural road to be enforced). MUTCD also recommends engineering studies (and may actually require them). Basically, on the basis that pretty much all engineering literature recommends the 85th percentile as a criteria for establishing speed limits and states that lowering speed limits far below this value is unsafe, someone could take the county to court for posting an unsafe speed limit that negatively impacts traffic conditions. In fact, I encourage anyone who gets a ticket here to fight it on these grounds. Speeding is supposed to be punished because it is unsafe, but the speed limits have to be set at reasonable levels for this to actually apply. Is going 50 mph here unsafe just because the limit was reduced? Is 50 mph unsafe on tons of other (more developed) roads like 571, Rabbit Hill Rd, and Cranbury Neck Rd.? I'm not trying to convince you specifically, but just laying out the rationale for all of this.
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PostPosted: Sat, Jun 18 2011, 6:37 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding Reply with quote

I say that you drive as fast as you want up and down OTR until you get a ticket and then you prove the system wrong.
I bet you don't have the guts to back up your words with actions.
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PostPosted: Sat, Jun 18 2011, 8:27 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Cranbury to Crack down on Speeding Reply with quote

It seems you have some anger problem; I'm not denying that breaking even the most ridiculous law can land you a punishment. Of course it can. I'm saying that the law is unreasonable, irrational, unscientific and...possibly unlawful in a way. This is all backed up by hard evidence. It's not going to matter whether the limit was produced by an engineering study (which is supposed to be the prerequisite as only engineering studies can determine safe and scientific speed limits) since the courts generally refuse to consider evidence from the MUTCD, state engineering guidelines, etc. It's unreasonable, but that's the way it is.

I've actually been meeting with officials to discuss various speed limits as of late, so I have been backing up my words with actions...Mr. Chip on Your Shoulder.
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