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PostPosted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 3:21 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Status of the Cranbury Swim Club? Reply with quote

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angry mob mentality, why the hostility?


So if you go to your bank to make a withdrawal of your money and they refuse to process it and repeatedly put you off, don't respond to calls or emails and never answer whether they in fact still the money to pay your deposits, you don't have a problem with that?
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PostPosted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 3:29 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Status of the Cranbury Swim Club? Reply with quote

How many times does someone want to slander people that work hard for others?
The board are volunteers, most here are not volunteers anywhere!

Others here are probably former board members that know the real challenges of dealing with the day to day drama of listening to always unhappy people.
Keith - a board member has been answering questions and emails as stated.
The bonds?? well let them have time to sort through the "mess" as previously stated.
The pool just closed this past week. I am sure the board is looking into ways to validate who is entitled to a refund. It was stated that the prior record keeping was "sloppy" and yet these posters continue to cry foul.
I would not just write a check because someone asked me to! Would you?

If you have to wait until next year to get it, so be it!

And lets be real here, did this just happen?
It appears that any financial chaos is not just creeping up, it has been long standing and coming to a head. The current board is being "angry mobbed" (I like that) when prior boards should have had the courage or knowledge to make necessary changes.

Keep up the good work and keep us in the loop when you have answers.

A happy Member!!!
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PostPosted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 3:31 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Status of the Cranbury Swim Club? Reply with quote

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again wrote:
angry mob mentality, why the hostility?


So if you go to your bank to make a withdrawal of your money and they refuse to process it and repeatedly put you off, don't respond to calls or emails and never answer whether they in fact still the money to pay your deposits, you don't have a problem with that?


Didn't the original posted say they received a call from the treasurer?
and that is where the info come from??? check the fact maam...
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PostPosted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 3:40 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Status of the Cranbury Swim Club? Reply with quote

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again wrote:
angry mob mentality, why the hostility?


So if you go to your bank to make a withdrawal of your money and they refuse to process it and repeatedly put you off, don't respond to calls or emails and never answer whether they in fact still the money to pay your deposits, you don't have a problem with that?


Didn't the original posted say they received a call from the treasurer?
and that is where the info come from??? check the fact maam...


The original poster said they eventually heard from the Treasurer after repeatedly not getting emails or phone calls returned. And that when they did here it was that nothing would be done until after the season. That is consistent with "put you off, don't respond to calls..." etc. It was a list. Point 1: "Put off", as in "we're doing nothing until after the season"; Point 2: "don't respond to calls" as in they didn't respond to calls or emails until after the poster escalated it to this forum. Completely consistent with the original poster's statement.

But seriously what is the point of the posters who are arguing over semantics and the motives of the other posters? It seems like we wouldn't have any basis for discussion if the swim club would just pay the money owed. If they did, discussion done. If they can't, then the posters are doing the right thing in shining light on this issue.
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PostPosted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 3:49 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Status of the Cranbury Swim Club? Reply with quote

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again wrote:
angry mob mentality, why the hostility?


So if you go to your bank to make a withdrawal of your money and they refuse to process it and repeatedly put you off, don't respond to calls or emails and never answer whether they in fact still the money to pay your deposits, you don't have a problem with that?


Didn't the original posted say they received a call from the treasurer?
and that is where the info come from??? check the fact maam...


The original poster said they eventually heard from the Treasurer after repeatedly not getting emails or phone calls returned. And that when they did here it was that nothing would be done until after the season. That is consistent with "put you off, don't respond to calls..." etc. It was a list. Point 1: "Put off", as in "we're doing nothing until after the season"; Point 2: "don't respond to calls" as in they didn't respond to calls or emails until after the poster escalated it to this forum. Completely consistent with the original poster's statement.

But seriously what is the point of the posters who are arguing over semantics and the motives of the other posters? It seems like we wouldn't have any basis for discussion if the swim club would just pay the money owed. If they did, discussion done. If they can't, then the posters are doing the right thing in shining light on this issue.



and what is your skin in the game? why are you here? obviously not waiting for a refund or you would have stated that. hmmm just a tool.
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PostPosted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 3:55 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Status of the Cranbury Swim Club? Reply with quote

No you are the one that is wrong not all of these people are looking for bonds but want answers, so join the board to get them. Beginning, middle doesn't matter. Also if you go on the swim club website and download the bi laws you will read there is no time frame for the board to return bonds so they are in the right to do what they are saying. after hearing all the complaining on here the board should hold bonds until 2100! Also I agree with another above poster, Keith a board member quite some time ago said all emails are answered and I do not hear any of these anonymous posters disagree with him so these people are just looking to complain. seems to me the board is doing their job, can anyone prove otherwise?
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PostPosted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 4:22 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Status of the Cranbury Swim Club? Reply with quote

Anyone with a legitimate concern over pool club affairs should cease posting here, in my opinion. The thread is now being hijacked by a person (maybe a few people) that simply want to be antagonistic in the comfort of cyberspace and showcase their lack of coherent communication abilities.

Call for the stakeholder meeting.
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PostPosted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 4:31 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Status of the Cranbury Swim Club? Reply with quote

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...after hearing all the complaining on here the board should hold bonds until 2100! Also I agree with another above poster, Keith a board member quite some time ago said all emails are answered and I do not hear any of these anonymous posters disagree with him so these people are just looking to complain. seems to me the board is doing their job, can anyone prove otherwise?


There were numerous comments that disagreed with Keith that all the emails have been answered, from people who did not get their emails answered.

As to your other comment, nice. You are suggesting withholding people's money just to be spiteful. Real mature.

Not one single poster attacking those asking about their bonds has yet to address the facts of whether they club has the money to refund them. But they have no problem reactively attacking them for asking despite having none of the facts. Obviously the attackers aren't currently seeking their refunds. But I suspect if they were being denied money that is theirs for 6-plus months in any other context they wouldn't be telling people to shut up and wait years to get it.

The other commonality to the attack posts is that they keep misstating even things that are in evidence right on this discussion, like you did claiming no one disputed Keith's statement. It seems like a reactive defense against the very idea of questioning where the money is without bothering to learn the facts or even read the posts carefully. Most of the posts asking for answers or action on the bonds do not attack anyone, unless the responders. They are straight-forward, reasonable questions. There were one or two rumor-mongers on the first page but that’s it. Again, it’s pretty simple. Just answer the question. If they have the money, have a board member go on record and the topic dies. If they don’t, thank you to whoever started it for raising the flag, and all the posters telling those asking the question to shut up look pretty silly. Or perhaps the posters vehemently trying to attack those asking for their bonds know they don’t have the money and are trying to divert the issue.
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PostPosted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 4:37 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Status of the Cranbury Swim Club? Reply with quote

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Anyone with a legitimate concern over pool club affairs should cease posting here, in my opinion. The thread is now being hijacked by a person (maybe a few people) that simply want to be antagonistic in the comfort of cyberspace and showcase their lack of coherent communication abilities.

Call for the stakeholder meeting.


Unfortunately at least some people can't get a response from the club outside this website. But I think they would all agree with a stakeholders meeting, as long as it is communicated clearly to stakeholders including non-current members seeking their bonds.

This topic is living on because people are owed money and haven't been told when and if they will get it. Its not about slander or hijacking.
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PostPosted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 7:09 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Status of the Cranbury Swim Club? Reply with quote

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Guest wrote:
Anyone with a legitimate concern over pool club affairs should cease posting here, in my opinion. The thread is now being hijacked by a person (maybe a few people) that simply want to be antagonistic in the comfort of cyberspace and showcase their lack of coherent communication abilities.

Call for the stakeholder meeting.


Unfortunately at least some people can't get a response from the club outside this website. But I think they would all agree with a stakeholders meeting, as long as it is communicated clearly to stakeholders including non-current members seeking their bonds.

This topic is living on because people are owed money and haven't been told when and if they will get it. Its not about slander or hijacking.


um, didn't the OP say they spoke to the treasurer and got an answer?
Why are you here?

yawn, this is boring already
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PostPosted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 7:20 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Status of the Cranbury Swim Club? Reply with quote

hello wrote:
Guest wrote:
Guest wrote:
Anyone with a legitimate concern over pool club affairs should cease posting here, in my opinion. The thread is now being hijacked by a person (maybe a few people) that simply want to be antagonistic in the comfort of cyberspace and showcase their lack of coherent communication abilities.

Call for the stakeholder meeting.


Unfortunately at least some people can't get a response from the club outside this website. But I think they would all agree with a stakeholders meeting, as long as it is communicated clearly to stakeholders including non-current members seeking their bonds.

This topic is living on because people are owed money and haven't been told when and if they will get it. Its not about slander or hijacking.


um, didn't the OP say they spoke to the treasurer and got an answer?
Why are you here?

yawn, this is boring already


Why are you?

I am here because I am owed my bond too. That's on topic. Your only interest seems to be to attack anyone with the gall to want their money. Shocking people would actually want the money they were told they would get back when they quit the club. Shocking people would stop receiving the benefits of membership all season and actually expect to get their bond.
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PostPosted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 8:38 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Status of the Cranbury Swim Club? Reply with quote

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again wrote:
angry mob mentality, why the hostility?


So if you go to your bank to make a withdrawal of your money and they refuse to process it and repeatedly put you off, don't respond to calls or emails and never answer whether they in fact still the money to pay your deposits, you don't have a problem with that?


What I have a problem with is anonymous postings. If you have something to say, have the courage to sign your name. If you can't do that, don't post.

Kevin McConnell
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PostPosted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 9:01 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Status of the Cranbury Swim Club? Reply with quote

From Board Member
Keith A. Shaw
Media and Website
Cranbury Swim Club

All email are answered and have been since I took over the website. Although they may not be answered immediately I do get to them on a daily basis thought out the season and on a weekly basis off season. The only exception is when I was on vacation this summer and they were again immediately answered upon my return with an explanation of the delay.

To the person/persons posting here saying that emails are not answered I challenge them to post their names and I will dispute their account.

Thank you,
Keith
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PostPosted: Tue, Sep 13 2011, 11:11 pm EDT    Post subject: Re: Status of the Cranbury Swim Club? Reply with quote

Cowards use your real name if you have complaints
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PostPosted: Wed, Sep 14 2011, 12:50 am EDT    Post subject: Re: Status of the Cranbury Swim Club? Reply with quote

Why should people have to post their names?
Why does that make any difference if they're getting screwed out of money?
They may want to avoid social awkwardness and being ostracized by the Cranbury elites.
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PostPosted: Wed, Sep 14 2011, 4:16 am EDT    Post subject: Re: Status of the Cranbury Swim Club? Reply with quote

Grow a pair
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