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anon-14q1
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 Posted: Thu, Jul 5 2012, 7:21 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Letter from Dave and Jay |
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| If it's less than a quarter mile and is cement (brick was mentioned here), why is it costing a quarter of a million dollars? That's about $200 per linear foot. I paid about $40 per linear foot for a cement sidewalk at my house in Cranbury a few years ago. Something isn't adding up or we're getting ripped off. |
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Projects-p18p
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| Posted: Thu, Jul 5 2012, 8:04 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Letter from Dave and Jay |
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You are confusing projects.
The 250k applies to downtown. The state awarded Cranbury 250k to install brick sidewalks downtown.
The town applied for a separate grant to connect the concrete sidewalks to each other on old Trenton Rd so there will be a solid sidewalk from Shadow Oaks to town. This grant may never even get awarded.
If you drive from old Trenton rd and S Main to the swim club I would bet your odometer is well under 2 miles. So even if there were no sidewalks you wouldn't get 3 miles. However, because there are some sidewalks the distance is smaller and hopefully will appear more attractive to the state as a result. |
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anon-97on
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| Posted: Thu, Jul 5 2012, 8:04 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Letter from Dave and Jay |
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| anon-14q1 wrote: | | If it's less than a quarter mile and is cement (brick was mentioned here), why is it costing a quarter of a million dollars? That's about $200 per linear foot. I paid about $40 per linear foot for a cement sidewalk at my house in Cranbury a few years ago. Something isn't adding up or we're getting ripped off. |
You seem to be confusing two totally unrelated projects. Please re-read the original letter posted here. I'll make it easier by re-pasting the relevant part here:
"We applied for and received a $250,000 grant to install brick sidewalks in the business district and help beautify the downtown, commencing this fall.
To improve pedestrian access in Cranbury, we applied for a grant to install sidewalks connecting Shadow Oaks to the downtown business district. If the grant is received, our residents in Shadow Oaks will be able to safely walk downtown and for those in town to walk to friends’ homes in Shadow Oaks and the Swim Club."
Two separate paragraphs.
First: $250K grant to install a brick sidewalk in the business district on Main Street. This one has been secured.
Second, unrelated: An unspecified amount of $ to finish the sidewalk along Old Trenton to connect the existing sidewalk that ends shortly after Liedtke with the existing sidewalk that exists from the annex of Shadow Oaks through to the Swim Club beyond the park. This one is pending, as of the date of the letter. |
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anon-q0q5
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| Posted: Fri, Jul 6 2012, 9:23 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Letter from Dave and Jay |
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| Oh, ok. Thanks for the clarification and sorry for confusing the two. That makes more sense. |
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publius-27p1
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| Posted: Mon, Jul 9 2012, 12:39 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Letter from Dave and Jay |
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Make it a concrete walkway.
Brick is too expensive.
Use the difference elsewhere.
NO? |
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publius-27p1
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| Posted: Mon, Jul 9 2012, 12:40 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Letter from Dave and Jay |
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What I mean to say is:
Brick is nice IN TOWN.
But, use concrete connecting from Main St. to Swim Club.
YES? |
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ok-8p94
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| Posted: Mon, Jul 9 2012, 1:24 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Letter from Dave and Jay |
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| publius-27p1 wrote: | What I mean to say is:
Brick is nice IN TOWN.
But, use concrete connecting from Main St. to Swim Club.
YES? |
No where, except on this board was it ever suggested to have brick sidewalks on Old Trenton Road. It has always been concrete. |
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anon-26o4
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| Posted: Tue, Jul 10 2012, 2:33 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Letter from Dave and Jay |
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| How can one find out more specific information about what exactly this proposal includes? Is there a map/schematic of the proposed side-walks (both downtown and to the Swim Club)? |
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BM-273s
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| Posted: Sun, Jul 15 2012, 4:35 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Letter from Dave and Jay |
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| I do not think the state shall pay for sidewalks into town. It is a waste of taxpayers money. What they have now is sufficient. |
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Anon-1pr0
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| Posted: Tue, Jul 17 2012, 9:41 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Letter from Dave and Jay |
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| For what it's worth, we hope they will finish the sidewalks along Old Trenton, regardless of the material... We'll even take gravel... Seems to us like the route is 80% there to connect so many houses to town - and it would bring such joy for the families to be able to bike in! |
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anon-97on
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| Posted: Wed, Jul 18 2012, 7:59 am EDT Post subject: Re: Letter from Dave and Jay |
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| BM-273s wrote: | | I do not think the state shall pay for sidewalks into town. It is a waste of taxpayers money. What they have now is sufficient. |
LOL at this statement. First, the idea that the state or county don’t spend money when it might be a “waste” is laughable. They do this all the time. Witness all the work they did on Old Trenton which no one was asking for and was completely unnecessary. Yet the one useful thing they could have done at a tiny fraction of the cost with the finishing of the missing sidewalk segment they didn’t do.
Second, saying what is there now is “sufficient” is like saying that if you build two ends of a bridge and leave out the middle the bridge is “sufficient” as-is. Without finishing the missing sidewalk segment what is already there is pointless – it is currently a sidewalk to nowhere.
You can argue that we’re having hard times and shouldn’t spend any money. But to argue that what we have is “sufficient” just makes you look silly. What we have now is useless. |
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Read-8q9r
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| Posted: Wed, Jul 18 2012, 8:28 am EDT Post subject: Re: Letter from Dave and Jay |
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| Quote: | You seem to be confusing two totally unrelated projects. Please re-read the original letter posted here. I'll make it easier by re-pasting the relevant part here:
"We applied for and received a $250,000 grant to install brick sidewalks in the business district and help beautify the downtown, commencing this fall.
To improve pedestrian access in Cranbury, we applied for a grant to install sidewalks connecting Shadow Oaks to the downtown business district. If the grant is received, our residents in Shadow Oaks will be able to safely walk downtown and for those in town to walk to friends’ homes in Shadow Oaks and the Swim Club."
Two separate paragraphs.
First: $250K grant to install a brick sidewalk in the business district on Main Street. This one has been secured.
Second, unrelated: An unspecified amount of $ to finish the sidewalk along Old Trenton to connect the existing sidewalk that ends shortly after Liedtke with the existing sidewalk that exists from the annex of Shadow Oaks through to the Swim Club beyond the park. This one is pending, as of the date of the letter. |
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anon-0n08
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| Posted: Wed, Jul 18 2012, 9:55 am EDT Post subject: Re: Letter from Dave and Jay |
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| The roadwork they did on Old Trenton has made it more dangerous for pedestrians that it was before. At least before one could walk, jog or bike along the shoulder of the road where the sidewalk was missing to bridge the gap, because there was a wide shoulder. I wouldn’t let me kids do it without supervision, but felt okay doing it with them. Now the shoulder is narrower everywhere but where it nears the cross streets it completely disappears and there are pinch points where cars and truck whiz right by you a couple feet away at 40+ MPH. It is completely unsafe and after trying it a couple times we won’t even let our kids do it with our supervision. The County made the road less safe for non-vehicle use. |
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Good job TC-6103
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| Posted: Thu, Jul 19 2012, 6:15 am EDT Post subject: Re: Letter from Dave and Jay |
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| Anon-1pr0 wrote: | | For what it's worth, we hope they will finish the sidewalks along Old Trenton, regardless of the material... We'll even take gravel... Seems to us like the route is 80% there to connect so many houses to town - and it would bring such joy for the families to be able to bike in! |
I agree. I am glad to see the TC take the initiative on this. Connecting Shadow Oaks and the village is a great idea, especially if we don't have to pay extra for it. |
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anon-26o4
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| Posted: Sat, Jul 21 2012, 8:54 am EDT Post subject: Re: Letter from Dave and Jay |
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| Agreed. This is a "no-brainer" that should have been resolved when the road was reconstructed. That said, I urge the TC to take a comprehendsive look at pedestrian safety throughout the village. May not be as easy or personally important to some, but it is the right thing to do for the long term value of the village. |
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