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Dan Mulligan
Joined: Fri, Sep 19 2008, 5:41 pm EDT Posts: 172 Location: Old Cranbury Road
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Posted: Wed, Feb 5 2014, 10:09 am EST Post subject: Re: Anybody patroling the streets |
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Hello,
I have not been on here and when I saw this I had to comment.
Overall our Police do a good job for our town and their being in Teddy's or any business / restaurant in town is a good thing in my view since it gives residents and police even more of a chance to interact in a positive productive manner.
In fact I encourage the police when on break to do so, and in general to be around any public gatherings and places in town to interact with residents as to create even more of a positive relationship between the Cranbury PD and our Residents.
If you have any questions or comments then please contact me directly.
-Dan |
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Concerned-8694 Guest
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Posted: Fri, Feb 7 2014, 10:01 am EST Post subject: Re: Anybody patroling the streets |
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OK, a few comments. Police at Teddy's...About time! I'd rather see them here at lunch then down the road at the deli taking their lunch. It's a lot better for the town, and, quite honestly, it can't always be that great or peaceful for them. They would have a much quieter lunch break out of town.
Next, if you think they are doing a great job (as I do) show up at tomorrow's TC budget meeting (9 AM). Rumor has it that Glenn Johnson wants to cut 4 police officers and Dan Mulligan 1. We are no longer the sleepy little historical agricultural village of 100 years ago or even 50). Not only have we grown, but the surrounding towns have exploded, and if you think that has not impacted us, you are gravely mistaken. |
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anon:61a-0qs4 Guest
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Posted: Fri, Feb 7 2014, 11:37 am EST Post subject: Re: Anybody patroling the streets |
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Maybe now is the time to stop the home rule foolishness and consider consolidation. Previous committee members got sucked into this home rule police department and it is a costly mistake. There is NO reason why we can't merge with Plainsboro as we have done with the court. Our police officers are there now anyway. In the interest of monetary savings along with better police protection and public safety we would be many dollars and benefits ahead.The town is no longer the place we grew up in and we need to move on with the times. |
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anon-0p83 Guest
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Posted: Fri, Feb 7 2014, 12:25 pm EST Post subject: Re: Anybody patroling the streets |
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Why do they all have to be there at the same time? Can't they stagger their 2 hour break? Wish I had a job where I would get a 2 hour break instead of my 1 hour lunch!!! |
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anon-97on Guest
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Posted: Fri, Feb 7 2014, 1:58 pm EST Post subject: Re: Anybody patroling the streets |
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anon-921r wrote: | anon@34-0qs4 wrote: | While on this subject it might be nice during the long term bridge construction to see the officers out of the cars and directing traffic and not sitting in the cars playing with their electronic devices.The traffic patterns are changing daily and there will be some accident if someone is not directing the traffic.It might be good for the Supervisor to oversee the patrol officers. |
The officers are there using personal and vacation days. Yes, they get paid, but they don't have to take the job. They could opt to be off with family. Considering this is a year long project, I think we're lucky with a small department to have officers willing to give up their personal time for us.
I don't get the need to ignorantly criticize people who help whether Police, fire and first aid on sirens, or the TC members. I doubt anyone criticizing gives up even an hour to volunteer without personal gain. |
I am curious if they getting paid regular or overtime rates and whether the additional income counts toward calculating their eventual pension rate which is based on peak earnings?
I have not posted on this topic before and don't share many of the criticisms so I am not implying anything with my question. I'm not a believer in general that pensions should take opt-in elective work and overtime into consideration when setting retirement pay rates.
Thanks for the clarification. |
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curious one:-0qs4 Guest
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Posted: Fri, Feb 7 2014, 2:59 pm EST Post subject: Re: Anybody patroling the streets |
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Can someone clarify the agreement for the payment of the overtime that the officers get for "TrafficDuty". I was under the impression that they are allowed to use the townships police cars for that private duty work. I was told the rate was around $65. per hour . If that is correct the officer is being paid over $500. for an eight hour shift of sitting in a police car?That being said, a regular officer making $90,000. per year could add $2500. per week to his weekly salary of $1730..I really don't know many folks making $4200. a week. What is wrong with this equation?It sure would be a whole lot cheaper to give some of those unemployed folks a job at a much lower rate.My guess is they would be very appreciative and would do an excellent concientious job. I think the committee should at least give this some consideration. |
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anon-oros Guest
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Posted: Fri, Feb 7 2014, 3:03 pm EST Post subject: Re: Anybody patroling the streets |
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Attention All unemployed people: Show up at the police station to get your police car for traffic detail. |
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anon-88r5 Guest
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Posted: Fri, Feb 7 2014, 3:04 pm EST Post subject: Re: Anybody patroling the streets |
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anon:61a-0qs4 wrote: | Maybe now is the time to stop the home rule foolishness and consider consolidation. Previous committee members got sucked into this home rule police department and it is a costly mistake. There is NO reason why we can't merge with Plainsboro as we have done with the court. Our police officers are there now anyway. In the interest of monetary savings along with better police protection and public safety we would be many dollars and benefits ahead.The town is no longer the place we grew up in and we need to move on with the times. |
If we merge with Plainsboro we'll have the same or higher costs plus:
- No control over benefits or salaries as Plainsboro will negotiate.
- We'll be responsible for whatever Plainsboro wants to do- cars, equipment, etc...We'll just get a bill.
- We'd have zero patrols as they'd be in Plainsboro dealing with all their issues and have no control over when they came to Cranbury.
- How do you think Plainsboro is going to add the extra officers for the hospital (non-tax revenue) and other building. They'd use Cranbury's money.
I lived on Long Island where the police are consolidated. We never saw police except when they passed through to get from point A to point B. You want Police local. |
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anon-4oq5 Guest
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Posted: Fri, Feb 7 2014, 3:55 pm EST Post subject: Re: Anybody patroling the streets |
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This is funny. We want unemployed untrained people driving police cars?
The traffic duty being performed is all related to the township issues- roads, power lines, etc... From what I understand because I actually asked is that the town charges a fee for the vehicle. That may be the 65.00 per hour. The town is smart as it covers gas, wear, etc...
I also heard cuts will be discussed on Saturday which is unaginable to me. I moved here this year for schools and safety. I work Saturday, but hope people show up. If cuts are made and someone has an issue where it takes 20 minutes for a response you know this board will go nuts blaming the police. Plus , our property values will go down if people sense the town is not safe. Remember, New Haven, Bridgeport , Plainfield were all once safe and prosperous places. We also see issues today in Cranbury with our current size and in neighboring towns. We're not just Main St.
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anon;16c-0qs4 Guest
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Posted: Fri, Feb 7 2014, 8:45 pm EST Post subject: Re: Anybody patroling the streets |
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It would be nice if any committee member would be forthcoming enough to clarify the costs for bridge and other traffic duty?As for traffic duty; if the crossing guard is acceptable to oversee my children's safety they would be well suited to do bridge traffic duty. |
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anon-921r Guest
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Posted: Fri, Feb 7 2014, 9:17 pm EST Post subject: Re: Anybody patroling the streets |
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anon;16c-0qs4 wrote: | It would be nice if any committee member would be forthcoming enough to clarify the costs for bridge and other traffic duty?As for traffic duty; if the crossing guard is acceptable to oversee my children's safety they would be well suited to do bridge traffic duty. |
If you read the meeting minutes, paper or the patch you would see the cost of the project as a whole is around 1-1.5 million. It's been discussed a number of times. The TC may have some issues, but this project has been discussed a lot over the years with the TC very upfront.
There is a difference between traffic duty and crossing duty. That is why the police do the School House Lane crossing and the guards do other crossings. Crossing guards stop, but do not direct traffic.
Also, there is no requirement that the police have to give up their personal time to do traffic duty. If they decided they value a day off more we'd be in a lot of trouble. We'd have traffic jams all around Main St. With the dam work.
I heard tonight that police cuts are indeed to be discussed tomorrow. So if you do value police you need to show up at the budget meeting tomorrow. |
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anon-q13r Guest
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Posted: Sat, Feb 8 2014, 10:45 am EST Post subject: Re: more speed traps! please keep our streets safe! LMAO |
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anon-44n2 wrote: | Your opinion.. Not mine.
You think speed traps make your world safer? trap. |
Yes, as a pretty prolific speeder (25+ tickets), the only thing that slows me down is the threat of being caught. Just the way it is. |
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anon-921r Guest
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Posted: Sat, Feb 8 2014, 2:12 pm EST Post subject: Re: Anybody patroling the streets |
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I attended the TC meeting today. Mr. Johnson suggested cutting. 3 officers as that is what was needed not to raise taxes. Many people spoke in support of the police and impact they have on our life and property values.
The TC listened and as a whole including Mr. Johnson agreed to keep the officers.
In my view they were very diligent in going through the expenses. Mr . Taylor challenged the spend on Rec and Mr. Mulligan stated these were tough discussions, but necessary.
Mayor Goetz did well explaining the loss in property values.
I was actually impressed as a first time budget attendee. |
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anon-97on Guest
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Posted: Sat, Feb 8 2014, 2:54 pm EST Post subject: Re: Anybody patroling the streets |
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anon-921r wrote: | Also, there is no requirement that the police have to give up their personal time to do traffic duty. If they decided they value a day off more we'd be in a lot of trouble. We'd have traffic jams all around Main St. With the dam work.
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Why couldn't you just use off-duty police from other municipalities if that happened? |
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Concerned-8694 Guest
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Posted: Sat, Feb 8 2014, 3:16 pm EST Post subject: Re: Anybody patroling the streets |
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Thanks to all who came out to the budget meeting in support of the police. Without this support, I am sure we would have lost at least one officer, and that would have been a crime. |
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anon-p80s Guest
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Posted: Sat, Feb 8 2014, 7:27 pm EST Post subject: Re: keep up the great work Cranbury PD |
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anon-40n0 wrote: | Last few times I have gone through there, I've seen them outside directing. Police chief himself was there taking part.
It has been pretty miserable cold lately, probably a smart move for them to stay warm and alert when they can.
Mobile devices used to keep in touch with what is going on in the community, and to help do their work is an asset.
Seems to me they are using good common sense. | I think this takes the cake for the dumbest comment of the year. First of all they have police radios that let them know what is going on in the community. As far as the cold goes its winter what do you except? |
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