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anon-5848
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 Posted: Fri, May 27 2016, 10:03 am EDT Post subject: Re: Update on Affordable Housing Obligation |
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There are ordinances and as stated just above lat yearba shed did have to go through zoning approval.
You can't equate a shed to a berm. |
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anon-001s
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| Posted: Fri, May 27 2016, 10:06 am EDT Post subject: Re: Update on Affordable Housing Obligation |
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| shedding-617n wrote: | so with that logic, anybody should be permitted to build anything they want where they want, as long as they can take it down. Doesn't sound like how the law is written.
then again, at least with this shed (more like a garage), its apparently how the law is applied. |
So can anyone put up a shed or building on their property? I do not see anything on the township page stating if you need a permit. Plus if you are in the historical district do you not need permission first? |
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anon-4417
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| Posted: Fri, May 27 2016, 10:14 am EDT Post subject: Re: Update on Affordable Housing Obligation |
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There are size and set back restrictions. However, most sheds are considered temporary structures.
Again, shed and berms are not the same. If you have an issue with sheds go to the zoning subcommittee then.
A shed cannot poison or flood your neighbor nor permenantly damage your neighbor's home. |
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anon-4491
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| Posted: Fri, May 27 2016, 10:26 am EDT Post subject: Re: Update on Affordable Housing Obligation |
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When I put up a very small shed in my yard (adjacent to farmland) years ago, I did reach out the the zoning officer and ask what if anything I needed to do to comply with code and whether it required approval. That's the logical thing to do in an abundance of caution. I did the same when I added a gate around a garden, etc. It's just a logical step.
My memory, which may be imperfect, was the code actually allowed a small shed below a certain footprint without any zoning approval as long as it was below a certain size and met a variety of setback requirements. I carefully measured all of those distances out and added some distance for a margin of error. Simple, easy, no drama. The zoning officer was extremely polite and helpful. |
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anon-5848
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| Posted: Fri, May 27 2016, 10:44 am EDT Post subject: Re: Update on Affordable Housing Obligation |
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Exactly. What you do is perfect as to how the process works.
What happened is the individual got upset that they were cited and then sought ways to work that were inappropriate and thenPB chair supported it.
I can see a petition as a last resort if you follow the rules. Not as a first step. |
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anon-s6p5
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| Posted: Fri, May 27 2016, 7:11 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Update on Affordable Housing Obligation |
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| The shed in question and drive have permits. Just ask at Town Hall for the file for this block and lot. |
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anon-31qo
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| Posted: Fri, May 27 2016, 8:17 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Update on Affordable Housing Obligation |
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| You gotta love the logic of trying to justify or divert attention from the illegal berm issue and inappropriate involvement of the PB chair by trying to point to other alleged problems as if that would make it okay. Then to have apparently lied about checking on the permits. |
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anon-461n
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| Posted: Fri, May 27 2016, 10:59 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Update on Affordable Housing Obligation |
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| Yea- the folks in question play this site (and the taxpayers) like a fiddle |
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anon-nos4
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| Posted: Sat, May 28 2016, 12:59 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Update on Affordable Housing Obligation |
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| as far as the shed goes yes I did get the right permits and maybe you mind your own businesses not mine thanks |
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anon-0493
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| Posted: Mon, May 30 2016, 9:52 am EDT Post subject: Re: Update on Affordable Housing Obligation |
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| anon-9077 wrote: | | I was getting ice cream at gil and berts today, and across the street noticed there was a shed up in back yard of the blue house across the street.. Now we are talking about someone having to take down a berm. But this person right in town can put up a shed and build a driveway with no permits? And yes I checked, there are no permits for shed or driveway. How is this fair?? Please explain how some people in town can do things and others cannot??? |
Well some people are just more equal than others! Like the PB Chair! Shouldn't he have been removed a long time ago when his company got the contract to build the new school gym and he was a member of several committees? Wasn't that a huge conflict of interest? It is true the TC protects some people who are more equal than others. I also want to say that in a small town, people should not be allowed to run for TC if they have already run once and LOST. Why waste people's time. |
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anon-rqrp
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| Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2016, 8:03 am EDT Post subject: Re: Update on Affordable Housing Obligation |
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| anon-54r5 wrote: | Good article on the topic on tapinto:
Cranbury Township Committee: Voices Raised In Dust-Up Over Noise, Dirt
https://www.tapinto.net/towns/south-brunswick-cranbury/articles/cranbury-township-committee-voices-raised-in-dus
For Mayor Mulligan, the problem wasn't so much what Liu was trying to do as the way he was going about it.
“My frustration point right now is how these two are handling this,” he said. “I'm very frustrated. Mr. Liu broke the law, didn't like the way the law was written, and decided to get everyone to sign a petition and then shows up here saying, 'We've got to change the law.' Then Mr. Kehrt, who heads our land use board, gets involved with the planner, which, I'm not even sure why you're doing that. That's inappropriate and you're making policy and saying how simple this is without even asking anybody.”
“I have an issue with the way that this process has worked to date,” Taylor said. “What I would have expected – and Allan I apologize – is the minute he heard that Jeff had cited him (Liu), to shut down the conversation at that point. Not talk to the professionals, not spend taxpayer dollars, but to just shut down that conversation and say, 'We have a Zoning subcommittee, I'll raise it there and if the people at the Zoning subcommittee decide that it's worthwhile, we'll bring it forward to Township Committee.'” |
So what happens next? Is there any discussion of Allan Kehrt stepping down? Is other township business is being handled inappropriately? |
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anon-4o96
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| Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2016, 10:28 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Update on Affordable Housing Obligation |
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The head of the the zoning board works for the company the planning board head ownes
| anon-rqrp wrote: | | anon-54r5 wrote: | Good article on the topic on tapinto:
Cranbury Township Committee: Voices Raised In Dust-Up Over Noise, Dirt
https://www.tapinto.net/towns/south-brunswick-cranbury/articles/cranbury-township-committee-voices-raised-in-dus
For Mayor Mulligan, the problem wasn't so much what Liu was trying to do as the way he was going about it.
“My frustration point right now is how these two are handling this,” he said. “I'm very frustrated. Mr. Liu broke the law, didn't like the way the law was written, and decided to get everyone to sign a petition and then shows up here saying, 'We've got to change the law.' Then Mr. Kehrt, who heads our land use board, gets involved with the planner, which, I'm not even sure why you're doing that. That's inappropriate and you're making policy and saying how simple this is without even asking anybody.”
“I have an issue with the way that this process has worked to date,” Taylor said. “What I would have expected – and Allan I apologize – is the minute he heard that Jeff had cited him (Liu), to shut down the conversation at that point. Not talk to the professionals, not spend taxpayer dollars, but to just shut down that conversation and say, 'We have a Zoning subcommittee, I'll raise it there and if the people at the Zoning subcommittee decide that it's worthwhile, we'll bring it forward to Township Committee.'” |
So what happens next? Is there any discussion of Allan Kehrt stepping down? Is other township business is being handled inappropriately? |
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anon-4r9o
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| Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 7:29 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Update on Affordable Housing Obligation |
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How a this conflict allowed to happen?
| anon-4o96 wrote: | The head of the the zoning board works for the company the planning board head ownes
| anon-rqrp wrote: | | anon-54r5 wrote: | Good article on the topic on tapinto:
Cranbury Township Committee: Voices Raised In Dust-Up Over Noise, Dirt
https://www.tapinto.net/towns/south-brunswick-cranbury/articles/cranbury-township-committee-voices-raised-in-dus
For Mayor Mulligan, the problem wasn't so much what Liu was trying to do as the way he was going about it.
“My frustration point right now is how these two are handling this,” he said. “I'm very frustrated. Mr. Liu broke the law, didn't like the way the law was written, and decided to get everyone to sign a petition and then shows up here saying, 'We've got to change the law.' Then Mr. Kehrt, who heads our land use board, gets involved with the planner, which, I'm not even sure why you're doing that. That's inappropriate and you're making policy and saying how simple this is without even asking anybody.”
“I have an issue with the way that this process has worked to date,” Taylor said. “What I would have expected – and Allan I apologize – is the minute he heard that Jeff had cited him (Liu), to shut down the conversation at that point. Not talk to the professionals, not spend taxpayer dollars, but to just shut down that conversation and say, 'We have a Zoning subcommittee, I'll raise it there and if the people at the Zoning subcommittee decide that it's worthwhile, we'll bring it forward to Township Committee.'” |
So what happens next? Is there any discussion of Allan Kehrt stepping down? Is other township business is being handled inappropriately? |
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anon-sp0n
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| Posted: Mon, Jun 6 2016, 8:23 am EDT Post subject: Re: Update on Affordable Housing Obligation |
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| anon-4r9o wrote: | How a this conflict allowed to happen?
| anon-4o96 wrote: | The head of the the zoning board works for the company the planning board head ownes
| anon-rqrp wrote: | | anon-54r5 wrote: | Good article on the topic on tapinto:
Cranbury Township Committee: Voices Raised In Dust-Up Over Noise, Dirt
https://www.tapinto.net/towns/south-brunswick-cranbury/articles/cranbury-township-committee-voices-raised-in-dus
For Mayor Mulligan, the problem wasn't so much what Liu was trying to do as the way he was going about it.
“My frustration point right now is how these two are handling this,” he said. “I'm very frustrated. Mr. Liu broke the law, didn't like the way the law was written, and decided to get everyone to sign a petition and then shows up here saying, 'We've got to change the law.' Then Mr. Kehrt, who heads our land use board, gets involved with the planner, which, I'm not even sure why you're doing that. That's inappropriate and you're making policy and saying how simple this is without even asking anybody.”
“I have an issue with the way that this process has worked to date,” Taylor said. “What I would have expected – and Allan I apologize – is the minute he heard that Jeff had cited him (Liu), to shut down the conversation at that point. Not talk to the professionals, not spend taxpayer dollars, but to just shut down that conversation and say, 'We have a Zoning subcommittee, I'll raise it there and if the people at the Zoning subcommittee decide that it's worthwhile, we'll bring it forward to Township Committee.'” |
So what happens next? Is there any discussion of Allan Kehrt stepping down? Is other township business is being handled inappropriately? |
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Because that's not technically defined as a conflict. It's two local residents who are each qualified to sit on Planning or Zoning boards and who worked for the same architectural company. There's no rule against it. There wouldn't even be a rule against a husband and wife sitting on two boards and each of those boards voting them as respective heads, let alone two colleagues from the same company. The conflicts are if either hear anything that involves someone or a company their company is doing business with, and then they are required to remove themselves from the board proceedings during such hearings. They can sit with the general public and participate as such. It's not even uncommon in NJ. Honestly I think the fact that one of our elected state representatives is also a full-time employee of a local union is a bigger conflict since their day job is literally to represent the interests of a union, which in turn helped fund and drive votes for their election, so by definition much of what they do in the Assembly represents a conflict. And yet by corrupt NJ laws it is not.
As for removing the PB chair, good luck. Not going to happen. His 4 year appointment has a while to go. At most he could be challenged for the chairmanship next January if they could find another member willing to run against him and secure the majority of the board members votes. I don't think anyone has even run opposed to him in years. |
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anon-2oqn
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| Posted: Mon, Jun 6 2016, 5:43 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Update on Affordable Housing Obligation |
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| What the above post wrote is correct however what was missing was the planning board chair is the boss to the chair of the zoning board. There may not be a law against it BUT for the good of the town this should not be allowed. Even if they are both 100% honest just the fact of having someone who controls your paycheck in a position to influence your vote should not be allowed. |
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anon-0493
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| Posted: Mon, Jun 6 2016, 9:37 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Update on Affordable Housing Obligation |
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| So what would you "technically define as a conflict?" Didn't the PB Chair also design the plans for the new library? Want to bet who will get the contract? He can recuse himself all he wants, his company will get the work. Other members of township boards have been removed before their term was up for having far less of a conflict of interest than this. Yes some people are more equal than others. |
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