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anon-001s Guest
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Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 10:45 am EDT Post subject: Lake |
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Has anyone seen the lake lately?? I cannot believe they are not doing anything about this. It looks horrible and is only going to get worse! |
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anon-p4n3 Guest
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Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 10:53 am EDT Post subject: Re: Lake |
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Do you believe they are doing herbicide treatments this week and alerts have been being sent out for the last month via the town website and mailing list? |
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anon-sp0n Guest
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Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 11:45 am EDT Post subject: Re: Lake |
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My question is wasn't this supposedly to be helped by the dredging and treatment they did a year or two back? I thought they spent money trying to get at the root cause. If so, what does whoever did the work have to say about the result? |
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Dredge?-sp4n Guest
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Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 12:56 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Lake |
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Was dredging done recently? I don't recall that. I thought some vegetation was removed and herbicide applied. Given the lake's depth and the area of nutrient rich land that drains into it, it's unlikely that the vegetation will be kept down for long. This will be a routine maintenance issue I'd guess. I don't think recent treatments are necessarily failures. |
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anon-n00n Guest
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Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 3:16 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Lake |
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Stock a bunch of Grass Carp after the herbicide treatment. |
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anon-54r5 Guest
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Posted: Wed, Jul 20 2016, 4:41 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Lake |
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The lake has not been dredged since the late 70's early 80's. The TC has begun exploring the dredging which will be very costly and a lengthy permitting process.
However, they are doing an annual maintenance plan with herbicide treatments that can only be applied at certain times. That is what the announcements are.
They did do a lake clean up a couple of years ago where they raked the lake and vegetation. |
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anon-8q21 Guest
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Posted: Tue, Jul 26 2016, 9:33 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Lake |
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Dredging is the only long term solution. As the bottom sediments build higher over the years the depth decreases, allowing sunlight to reach the bottom. Once that occurs vegetation growth starts. That vegetation will eventually create small islands of grass much like a marsh. Unfortunately this is referred to as the beginning of the end for a lake, unless corrected by increasing the depth of the water. |
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anon-04o1 Guest
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Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 8:28 am EDT Post subject: Re: Lake |
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Has the lake actually been treated as planned? Apart from the original notice, there's been no communication and/or signs posted in the park. (And the lake is still very green)
More to my point, is it currently safe for pets? |
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anon-88r5 Guest
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Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 3:37 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Lake |
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I understand the lake treatment was delayed and won't be treated until early August. |
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anon-8q21 Guest
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Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 3:56 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Lake |
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If your pet is a good swimmer than the lake is safe. |
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anon-8q21 Guest
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Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 4:09 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Lake |
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It is unfortunate that when the lake was drained for dam repairs the bottom was not bulldozed and sediment removed. I suggest and offer that the herbicide is a waste of money.
There is a lake in Spotswood on Devoe Ave that during the 40's was a resort and remained a popular swimming place well into the 60's.
Over the next four decades photosynthesis occurred as the lake became more shallow due to sediment deposits making it more shallow. Sunlight hitting the bottom made weed growth strong. All that many years debate occurred as to the solution, such as the environmental impact of dredging, the interruption of mosquito flight paths and other learned opinions. But no action, and never dredged and today it is a swamp negatively affecting the property values of the once lakefront homes. |
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anon-88r5 Guest
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Posted: Thu, Jul 28 2016, 4:51 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Lake |
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anon-8q21 wrote: | It is unfortunate that when the lake was drained for dam repairs the bottom was not bulldozed and sediment removed. I suggest and offer that the herbicide is a waste of money.
There is a lake in Spotswood on Devoe Ave that during the 40's was a resort and remained a popular swimming place well into the 60's.
Over the next four decades photosynthesis occurred as the lake became more shallow due to sediment deposits making it more shallow. Sunlight hitting the bottom made weed growth strong. All that many years debate occurred as to the solution, such as the environmental impact of dredging, the interruption of mosquito flight paths and other learned opinions. But no action, and never dredged and today it is a swamp negatively affecting the property values of the once lakefront homes. |
The TC tried, but the permitting process was lengthy and testing the same process was detailed which did not align with the dam repairs. Plus, the cost was still in the millions and I am not sure the town could have taken on all of this at the same time financially.
I agree the lake is an important piece of our history and town and needs to be taken care of. I just wonder between the 3-5 million I heard and affordable housing how we'll make it work. |
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anon-8q21 Guest
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Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 9:26 am EDT Post subject: Re: Lake |
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"Testing the same process did not align with the dam repairs." What is that supposed to mean. I understand the permitting may have been difficult, but not impossible I would think, but that next statement sounds like a Hillary speech. Could you clarify if you have knowledge of what transpired. Thanks |
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anon-47rr Guest
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Posted: Fri, Jul 29 2016, 11:53 am EDT Post subject: Re: Lake |
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Sorry. Yes it was unclear. I did not re-read what I wrote. But no need for the insult in my rush to try and get something out that was informational.
I am very concerned about the lake so have been paying attention and attend a few TC meetings where this was addressed.
To get to the point where the dam was lowered and water drained my understanding was it took two years.
To do the testing necessary to dredge and then complete the process of permitting is 3-4 years. Thus the work did not align from what I understand from different TC meetings.
Further at this time the rateables were dropping so my guess is the TC not knowing what the full dam repair would cost decided not to take on a ton of projects. |
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anon-001s Guest
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Posted: Thu, Aug 18 2016, 12:22 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Lake |
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Still doesnt look like they did anything. |
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