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 Posted: Mon, Aug 23 2021, 9:41 am EDT Post subject: Miserable Communication Failure |
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Considering the numerous pre storm notices that the township had from numerous weather reporting sources they failed miserably to be prepared. They failed to use the notification systems available to keep the public informed of the road conditions in Cranbury and the surrounding towns. There was No notice from the Township nor the Police Department of road closings and flooding. There were numerous locations where there were few and in some cases no traffic cones nor signage placed to warn folks of the flooding conditions. That failure caused numerous cars to be caught in serious flood conditions and thus the tremendous loss of vehicles and certainly the possible loss of life. The failure to redirect traffic on main street and other locations led to total traffic chaos throughout the township. This is not the first time this has happened and the buck should stop at the mayor and admistrator's desk.
The bottom line is they were "Not Prepared" and the Boy Scout Mayor should know that motto very well!
And by the way they should reschedule the Township Committee meeting they cancelled this month to discus what went wrong and how to correct it in the future. |
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anon-7666
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| Posted: Mon, Aug 23 2021, 9:47 am EDT Post subject: Re: Miserable Communication Failure |
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| Agree with the lack of communication. I get a number of alerts from Plainsboro. I felt like with Irene and Sandy there was more communication. Most of what I saw this time was on Facebook. |
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anon-qp38
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| Posted: Mon, Aug 23 2021, 10:45 am EDT Post subject: Re: Miserable Communication Failure |
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| anon-7666 wrote: | | Agree with the lack of communication. I get a number of alerts from Plainsboro. I felt like with Irene and Sandy there was more communication. Most of what I saw this time was on Facebook. |
Our Mayor was more concerned with his image posing for photos cleaning a storm drain posting on Facebook and being on the news. Mayor look at me look at me look at how great I am Ferrante |
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anon-rq71
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| Posted: Mon, Aug 23 2021, 12:15 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Miserable Communication Failure |
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| I agree with the lack of communication. However, I don't believe the communication breakdown is completely responsible for vehicles getting stuck in the waters. You would think common sense would tell you that trying to drive through a road covered with water is NOT a good idea...Guess common sense is not so common after all..... |
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anon-7666
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| Posted: Mon, Aug 23 2021, 12:54 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Miserable Communication Failure |
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| anon-rq71 wrote: | | I agree with the lack of communication. However, I don't believe the communication breakdown is completely responsible for vehicles getting stuck in the waters. You would think common sense would tell you that trying to drive through a road covered with water is NOT a good idea...Guess common sense is not so common after all..... |
Agree fully with this poster. I am always amazed at people ignoring cones and driving through floods. I saw many cars ignore cones yesterday only to turnaround at the lake. |
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anon-7ns6
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| Posted: Mon, Aug 23 2021, 1:56 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Miserable Communication Failure |
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| anon-7666 wrote: | | anon-rq71 wrote: | | I agree with the lack of communication. However, I don't believe the communication breakdown is completely responsible for vehicles getting stuck in the waters. You would think common sense would tell you that trying to drive through a road covered with water is NOT a good idea...Guess common sense is not so common after all..... |
Agree fully with this poster. I am always amazed at people ignoring cones and driving through floods. I saw many cars ignore cones yesterday only to turnaround at the lake. |
It was a systemic issue that extended beyond our Township. There were so many floods and impromptu closures that didn't logically direct people to the alternatives and our roads ended up far more crowded than a typical Sunday with people, mostly from out of town, randomly seeking ways around the other blocked roads.
I was seeking real-time info from various state, county and township sites yesterday to navigate around and there was no reliable resource, even late Sunday. There were various alerts but most seemed incomplete based on the number of blocked roads I encountered not on the alerts.
It seems pretty easy to armchair quarterback response time and communication to what was a historic storm for Cranbury. The force isn't that large, and most people probably don't want to pay the taxes to justify a larger one. I think having a public meeting to discuss lessons learned is a great idea (in pretty much any situation) but starting off with an anonymous personal attack isn't productive at all. But then that's all this site is good for. |
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anon-rq71
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| Posted: Mon, Aug 23 2021, 2:08 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Miserable Communication Failure |
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| anon-7ns6 wrote: | | anon-7666 wrote: | | anon-rq71 wrote: | | I agree with the lack of communication. However, I don't believe the communication breakdown is completely responsible for vehicles getting stuck in the waters. You would think common sense would tell you that trying to drive through a road covered with water is NOT a good idea...Guess common sense is not so common after all..... |
Agree fully with this poster. I am always amazed at people ignoring cones and driving through floods. I saw many cars ignore cones yesterday only to turnaround at the lake. |
It was a systemic issue that extended beyond our Township. There were so many floods and impromptu closures that didn't logically direct people to the alternatives and our roads ended up far more crowded than a typical Sunday with people, mostly from out of town, randomly seeking ways around the other blocked roads.
I was seeking real-time info from various state, county and township sites yesterday to navigate around and there was no reliable resource, even late Sunday. There were various alerts but most seemed incomplete based on the number of blocked roads I encountered not on the alerts.
It seems pretty easy to armchair quarterback response time and communication to what was a historic storm for Cranbury. The force isn't that large, and most people probably don't want to pay the taxes to justify a larger one. I think having a public meeting to discuss lessons learned is a great idea (in pretty much any situation) but starting off with an anonymous personal attack isn't productive at all. But then that's all this site is good for. |
Where exactly was the personal attack?? |
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anon-qn09
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| Posted: Mon, Aug 23 2021, 3:12 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Miserable Communication Failure |
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| anon-7ns6 wrote: | | anon-7666 wrote: | | anon-rq71 wrote: | | I agree with the lack of communication. However, I don't believe the communication breakdown is completely responsible for vehicles getting stuck in the waters. You would think common sense would tell you that trying to drive through a road covered with water is NOT a good idea...Guess common sense is not so common after all..... |
Agree fully with this poster. I am always amazed at people ignoring cones and driving through floods. I saw many cars ignore cones yesterday only to turnaround at the lake. |
It was a systemic issue that extended beyond our Township. There were so many floods and impromptu closures that didn't logically direct people to the alternatives and our roads ended up far more crowded than a typical Sunday with people, mostly from out of town, randomly seeking ways around the other blocked roads.
I was seeking real-time info from various state, county and township sites yesterday to navigate around and there was no reliable resource, even late Sunday. There were various alerts but most seemed incomplete based on the number of blocked roads I encountered not on the alerts.
It seems pretty easy to armchair quarterback response time and communication to what was a historic storm for Cranbury. The force isn't that large, and most people probably don't want to pay the taxes to justify a larger one. I think having a public meeting to discuss lessons learned is a great idea (in pretty much any situation) but starting off with an anonymous personal attack isn't productive at all. But then that's all this site is good for. |
Taking a bit of issue with calling this an "Historic" storm. The flooding and rainfall was remarkably similar to Irene which was a mere 10 years ago. After that disaster, there were long discussions about the redesign of the spillway. As I recall we decided on the middle option designed to withstand up to a 100 year flood event. Well, we have now had 2 100 year events in 10 years. May be time to rethink how to protect those houses on Main Street. |
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anon-ps00
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| Posted: Mon, Aug 23 2021, 5:52 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Miserable Communication Failure |
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| There should be signs posted around the lake prohibiting driving into the lake and an on line video explaining the difference between a car and a boat. |
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anon-7ns6
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| Posted: Mon, Aug 23 2021, 8:20 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Miserable Communication Failure |
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| anon-rq71 wrote: | | anon-7ns6 wrote: | | anon-7666 wrote: | | anon-rq71 wrote: | | I agree with the lack of communication. However, I don't believe the communication breakdown is completely responsible for vehicles getting stuck in the waters. You would think common sense would tell you that trying to drive through a road covered with water is NOT a good idea...Guess common sense is not so common after all..... |
Agree fully with this poster. I am always amazed at people ignoring cones and driving through floods. I saw many cars ignore cones yesterday only to turnaround at the lake. |
It was a systemic issue that extended beyond our Township. There were so many floods and impromptu closures that didn't logically direct people to the alternatives and our roads ended up far more crowded than a typical Sunday with people, mostly from out of town, randomly seeking ways around the other blocked roads.
I was seeking real-time info from various state, county and township sites yesterday to navigate around and there was no reliable resource, even late Sunday. There were various alerts but most seemed incomplete based on the number of blocked roads I encountered not on the alerts.
It seems pretty easy to armchair quarterback response time and communication to what was a historic storm for Cranbury. The force isn't that large, and most people probably don't want to pay the taxes to justify a larger one. I think having a public meeting to discuss lessons learned is a great idea (in pretty much any situation) but starting off with an anonymous personal attack isn't productive at all. But then that's all this site is good for. |
Where exactly was the personal attack?? |
"Our Mayor was more concerned with his image posing for photos cleaning a storm drain posting on Facebook and being on the news. Mayor look at me look at me look at how great I am Ferrante"
That you don't identify this as a personal attack speaks volumes. |
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anon-qp38
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| Posted: Mon, Aug 23 2021, 8:57 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Miserable Communication Failure |
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| anon-7ns6 wrote: | | anon-rq71 wrote: | | anon-7ns6 wrote: | | anon-7666 wrote: | | anon-rq71 wrote: | | I agree with the lack of communication. However, I don't believe the communication breakdown is completely responsible for vehicles getting stuck in the waters. You would think common sense would tell you that trying to drive through a road covered with water is NOT a good idea...Guess common sense is not so common after all..... |
Agree fully with this poster. I am always amazed at people ignoring cones and driving through floods. I saw many cars ignore cones yesterday only to turnaround at the lake. |
It was a systemic issue that extended beyond our Township. There were so many floods and impromptu closures that didn't logically direct people to the alternatives and our roads ended up far more crowded than a typical Sunday with people, mostly from out of town, randomly seeking ways around the other blocked roads.
I was seeking real-time info from various state, county and township sites yesterday to navigate around and there was no reliable resource, even late Sunday. There were various alerts but most seemed incomplete based on the number of blocked roads I encountered not on the alerts.
It seems pretty easy to armchair quarterback response time and communication to what was a historic storm for Cranbury. The force isn't that large, and most people probably don't want to pay the taxes to justify a larger one. I think having a public meeting to discuss lessons learned is a great idea (in pretty much any situation) but starting off with an anonymous personal attack isn't productive at all. But then that's all this site is good for. |
Where exactly was the personal attack?? |
"Our Mayor was more concerned with his image posing for photos cleaning a storm drain posting on Facebook and being on the news. Mayor look at me look at me look at how great I am Ferrante"
That you don't identify this as a personal attack speaks volumes. |
we are not allowed to criticize the mayor? |
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anon-r701
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| Posted: Mon, Aug 23 2021, 10:09 pm EDT Post subject: Re: Miserable Communication Failure |
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I missed the board full of idiots. I'm glad it's back.
Every forecast called from anywhere between 0.5" to 3" of rain overnight.
Don't you get the flash flood warnings from NWS?
What chaos on the streets? You're a dope driving into deep water. Need a warning for that as well?
Board of idiots is back. Much appreciated. |
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anon-1qro
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| Posted: Tue, Aug 24 2021, 8:24 am EDT Post subject: Re: Miserable Communication Failure |
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I think everyone did the best that they could do. Why so much negativity?
I watched the weather up until around midnight. They said nothing about us getting this much rain. It just happened.
Everyone in town came together and has helped each other. Lets look at the positive things instead of always putting each other down. What good does that do? I know its easy on this kind of boards. But is every just tired of arguing? Lets try to be kind to each other and help each other.
Thank you everyone who helped all the neighbors. Thank you to our police and firefighters who saved lives. Lets just be thankful no one was hurt and learn for the next time. |
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anon-5372
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| Posted: Tue, Aug 24 2021, 8:45 am EDT Post subject: Re: Miserable Communication Failure |
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Lack of communication?! The police department did the best they could as did the Mayor. So a txt/email should have been sent to communicate traffics etc?! The priority was to save lives and close roads . They were overwhelmed. People are so quick to criticize when they don’t understand what goes into a situation like this. Many of the police that were on that day were busy with rescues and placing barricades ( which at time floated away). Many of them
Didn’t see their families for 2 days. If people would have stayed home it would have helped the traffic situation. |
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anon-rq71
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| Posted: Tue, Aug 24 2021, 9:35 am EDT Post subject: Re: Miserable Communication Failure |
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| anon-7ns6 wrote: | | anon-rq71 wrote: | | anon-7ns6 wrote: | | anon-7666 wrote: | | anon-rq71 wrote: | | I agree with the lack of communication. However, I don't believe the communication breakdown is completely responsible for vehicles getting stuck in the waters. You would think common sense would tell you that trying to drive through a road covered with water is NOT a good idea...Guess common sense is not so common after all..... |
Agree fully with this poster. I am always amazed at people ignoring cones and driving through floods. I saw many cars ignore cones yesterday only to turnaround at the lake. |
It was a systemic issue that extended beyond our Township. There were so many floods and impromptu closures that didn't logically direct people to the alternatives and our roads ended up far more crowded than a typical Sunday with people, mostly from out of town, randomly seeking ways around the other blocked roads.
I was seeking real-time info from various state, county and township sites yesterday to navigate around and there was no reliable resource, even late Sunday. There were various alerts but most seemed incomplete based on the number of blocked roads I encountered not on the alerts.
It seems pretty easy to armchair quarterback response time and communication to what was a historic storm for Cranbury. The force isn't that large, and most people probably don't want to pay the taxes to justify a larger one. I think having a public meeting to discuss lessons learned is a great idea (in pretty much any situation) but starting off with an anonymous personal attack isn't productive at all. But then that's all this site is good for. |
Where exactly was the personal attack?? |
"Our Mayor was more concerned with his image posing for photos cleaning a storm drain posting on Facebook and being on the news. Mayor look at me look at me look at how great I am Ferrante"
That you don't identify this as a personal attack speaks volumes. |
It was just a question. Next time quote the correct response in which you were referring to before you getting your panties in a twist. |
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